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J. Falcon 08-12-2011 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18349749)
most analyists agree the soviet "threat" was hype.

From what I know the hype was very real. And both countries came close to nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

J. Falcon 08-12-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18349942)

That's what I'm talking about. How did we suddenly become the country that orders everybody in the world around? Doesn't that make us the "bad guys"?

LOl what planet have you been living on?

J. Falcon 08-12-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainmiester (Post 18349949)
We should, as we have historically been the worlds peace keeper...

America has never been "the world's peace keeper" if you think that you are completely out of touch with reality. America has acted in favor of peace (in a certain region) only if it benefited them in some way. If not, they didn't give a shit, and started several major wars themselves for purposes that were usually shady, or at least unclear.

Robbie 08-12-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 18351838)
LOl what planet have you been living on?

I guess the wrong one. I was taught that we were the ones who DEFENDED countries against bullies...not that we ARE the bully. :(

Coup 08-12-2011 10:50 PM


DWB 08-13-2011 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18349670)
from the debates last night:

Ron Paul on Iranian sanctions: "That makes it much worse. Why would that be so strange if the Soviets and the Chinese had nuclear weapons, we tolerated the Soviets. We didn't attack them. And they were a much greater danger. They were the greatest danger to us in our whole history. But you don't go to war with them."

Paul also asked the audience to consider the nuclear issue from the perspective of the Iranian people:

"Just think of how many nuclear weapons surround Iran. The Chinese are there. The Indians are there. The Pakistanis are there. The Israelis are there. The United States is there. All these countries ... why wouldn't it be natural if they might want a weapon?"

I agree.

Just because we have been told what the Iranians will do with a nuke should they have one, doesn't mean that is what they are going to do. We've been told so many lies from our government over the decades that there is no telling what is factual anymore, as well as who is a real threat and who is not. Or, who is a threat today because they didn't play ball, but in reality just a few years ago were no threat at all.

Everyone, regardless of how crazy we are led to believe they are, should be entitled to the same security and military options as the USA and other nations have. It's as simple as that.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep an eye on them and be ready to wipe them off the face of the earth should they so much as open their missile silo doors, but if they want nukes, they should be allowed to have them. And really, who are we or anyone else to say otherwise? The United States as murdered more innocent civilians in their "war against terror" and other bullshit wars than Iran ever has. Yet, Ahmadinejad is the mad man. And while he may be, who has more blood on their hands?

DWB 08-13-2011 02:54 AM

To add to my last post, if I was Ahmadinejad, I'd build nukes and send Obama or whatever puppet is in office at the time, a pic of my nuts on top of my iPad, with a photo showing of the presidents wife, with cum photoshopped on her face (I'd get the pic from one of the GF sites).

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AtlantisCash 08-13-2011 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainmiester (Post 18349949)
What's frustrating people on both sides with Ron Paul is that he is neither of those groups and is not a moderate in the middle.

As crazy as he sounds some times, he actually makes a lot of common sense and his focus on what's important now, is refreshing. Seems to me he's more interested in tackling the relevant issue that need attention today while not so interested in someone across the worlds problems.

America is not currently in a position to pay for everyone else's wars and the foreign aid. We should, as we have historically been the worlds peace keeper but at present, we have more pressing issues to worry about which, at the top of the list, is our destroying the worlds economies with our careless manipulation of the global currency standard.




He brings differant perspectives don't mean he sounds crazy sometimes, some people just have know cluye about the things was even hundret years ago and they think it was like this since the human civilization began (at least for economy)

Joshua G 08-13-2011 10:35 AM

i would tend towards ron pauls position on iran. One thing about Iran is that they have never attacked another country. All the fearmongering about iran really comes out of AIPAC. My guess is the CIA is far more worried about pakistan nukes not irans.

ron paul is just what america needs to bring a big stick against the out-of-control federal government. Its sad that the media gives him no respect. MSNBC's anchor this morning had the balls to ask, "if ron paul wins the iowa straw poll, does that de-legitimize the straw poll?"

Go ron paul go. Fight the man!

Robbie 08-13-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18352866)
MSNBC's anchor this morning had the balls to ask, "if ron paul wins the iowa straw poll, does that de-legitimize the straw poll?"

I'm old enough to remember the Vietnam War and the media coverage of it.

Back then the media did it's job. It QUESTIONED the govt. It didn't accept whatever bullshit that the press secretary handed them. They actually got out in the field and investigated it (and no...I don't consider Anderson Cooper flying to whatever hot spot in the world to be on camera to be "investigating")

But these days the media seems to do what it is told. Fox News slants it Republican because that is their bias. And the rest of the channels slant Democratic because that is their bias.

So basically...whenever ANY news organization tries to discredit a politician and smear them like this...I'd say vote for that guy.

Can anybody old enough to remember even imagine that Walter Cronkite would have made that kind of comment on the CBS Evening News back when they actually REPORTED the news?

Geometrist 08-13-2011 11:08 AM

Ron Poll is communism in disguise

dyna mo 08-13-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18352930)
I'm old enough to remember the Vietnam War and the media coverage of it.

Back then the media did it's job. It QUESTIONED the govt. It didn't accept whatever bullshit that the press secretary handed them. They actually got out in the field and investigated it (and no...I don't consider Anderson Cooper flying to whatever hot spot in the world to be on camera to be "investigating")

But these days the media seems to do what it is told. Fox News slants it Republican because that is their bias. And the rest of the channels slant Democratic because that is their bias.

So basically...whenever ANY news organization tries to discredit a politician and smear them like this...I'd say vote for that guy.

Can anybody old enough to remember even imagine that Walter Cronkite would have made that kind of comment on the CBS Evening News back when they actually REPORTED the news?

i remember those days. that was back when the point of newscasts was to report the news, not win ratings.


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