porn girls aren't known for having common sense or being responsible.

You're assuming that they've thought this through rationally. That's not the case at all. Most have convinced themselves that the risk is next to nil in order to justify making the money, or they simply ignore the possible consequences.

That would be fine, if they were the only one to suffer the consequences if/when they are wrong. But that decision also effects the other performers they work with and all the performers those people work with.

If all of these people were able to consistently make rational and responsible decisions, many of them would have lucrative careers doing something other than fucking in front of the camera. I'm not saying that all, or even most, that are escorting on the side are incapable of being rational and responsible but the percentage is high enough that any "industry wide" policy dealing with this issue has to assume that the performers will not be truthful about their off set sexual activity.

meth doesn't grow on trees is our theroy out here in LA :2 cents:

Man...
There is a lot of ignorance here about the adult industry outside of shooting porn.

First off...girls make 20 times the money as an escort that they would ever make shooting a scene or 2 a week.
It takes them one hour to do a private. Conversely an entire day is lost doing a porn shoot.

For girls with a "name"...they have ALWAYS hooked on the side. Always. This isn't some brand new, never before happened thing.

It's just that now that there is an internet it's becoming more widely known.

And porn stars aren't the only ones. I've been offered NFL cheerleaders as well as mainstream Hollywood actresses (no, none of the ones who are really rich of course...but the mid level stars, yes)

Escorting is the biggest money maker there is. And girls like the one who wrote this article would probably be singing a different tune if not for their boyfriend or husband.

Over the course of the 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, and up to now I was married to three different giant tit feature dancers who worked for Gold Key traveling the world and two porn stars. I've seen the real adult industry from just about every perspective and became friends with many, many girls over the years and learned what goes on.

There is no way in hell you are ever gonna get girls to give up that money. And there's also no way anybody can pay them what they make escorting for rich high rollers to stop and only shoot porn scenes.

The girls you NEED to worry about (if any) would be the ones who end up with meth habits and start fucking street thugs for meth on the side. But the hard working escorts out there aren't doing that. They are tested monthly for their porn shoots, and their rich married customers INSIST on condom use.

Or maybe you could all keep babbling about them being escorts and say goodbye to some of the best girls in the porn side of the adult business.

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The funny thing is that there is such a thing as a Meth tree:

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I guess that I am slightly jaded, or maybe most Asian American girls are raised differently, because I rarely encounter a model that is messed up on drugs, etc. Most of the girls I work with are pretty well-adjusted, and many are college students or grads with professional careers.

I know some of them escort or have escorted on the side, but I am willing to bet that the majority have not and probably would not.

Then again, I work with many amateurs, do a lot of glam/softcore work, and even my hardcore content is not very extreme by today's porn standards (or lack of standards, hehe).

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You are very lucky. In the last few years I swear that more people have become addicted to prescription drugs than anything I've ever seen in my life. And it doesn't matter how well educated they are or what they are like as human beings.

Once a person gets on pain killers or ambien...it's a freakin' nightmare that makes most "illegal drugs" addiction look like a walk in the park.
And there seems to be an equal percentage of girls in the biz addicted to them as there are in the "general population".
And a person who is pilled out can be one of the most frustrating situations you'll ever find yourself in. It's bad enough when I deal with people like that on a social level (at a nightclub, etc.) but trying to shoot a scene with somebody? A nightmare.

her point is lost because the industry infection rate for HIV is incredibly low, and mostly centered on gay performers (and cross over performers as a result).

most people take higher risks fucking the person they drunkenly met at a bar last week.

and she runs her own site. http://tools.mariahxxx.net/index.php thats pretty cool.

say it aint so..............:Oh crap

I would think a girl on downers would appear much like a drunk girl, and as such would be easily detectable, and undesirable as a performer.

I am pretty open minded about people using drugs, however, I am concerned about health, addiction, and social issues (crime, violence, etc), associated with drug abuse, and I personally avoid most drugs myself these days. I still attend and have fun at parties, but my party animal days are pretty much in the past; I'm trying to maintain my remaining brain cells for as long as I can, lol - hell, I don't even drink alcohol anymore (sober 6+ months so far).

BTW, I don't consider cannabis a drug in the negative sense - I consume medical cannabis legally. :stoned

Years ago I remember that I was supposed to shoot a model that was pretty hot at the time named Jade Hsu, but she was so strung out on something that I passed on her. Other than that, I've only had a few girls flake, which people told me might be due to drug issues (out of hundreds of models) - I didn't really care to find out, since a flake is flake in my book, and they got scratched anyway.

For liability reasons, I do not allow performers to consume drugs or alcohol on my sets. It has nothing to do with being cool (plus guys have enough performance issues as it is without getting drunk dick).

There are too many girls out there who appreciate the work to worry about the ones with problems/attitudes. :2 cents:

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50 Porn Stars Escorting...

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I feel like we in the jizz biz are all somehow related to Charlie Sheen through Tiger Blood (or some other bodily fluid).

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First of all I have a "name" and in my 13 years shooting porn never once fucked off camera for a gift or cash or any other "donation" whether I had a boyfriend or not. I was approached by a madam back in 1999 when I had become established and was shooting 4 or 5 days a week and she guaranteed me 10 times what I was making then. I met with her twice and thought about it for a week and when it came down to it I couldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I walked into a hotel room and just let some stranger fuck me no matter the amount of money offered. I was recently offered to go to Dubai for 5 days via private plane for $50,000. I laughed at how ridiculous that is that someone would pay that much for pussy and deleted the email. But four other girls I know well went and got paid their money. More power to them, I just couldn't do it. And by the way, one of the girls that I know told me her Talent Testing test was accepted and there was no condom use by anyone there during her trip and the Prince had a test that was 19 days old.

And you are absolutely wrong about rich married customers demanding condoms. I personally know someone who is a porn star / escort and she straight up told me that if the guy has a test and pays $300 extra she'll fuck him without a condom if he's a regular of hers. She goes on escort trips with other girls all being known porn stars and she said she doesn't know a single girl who won't do bareback for extra money if the guy has a test.

And that comment about girls worrying about the cost of health care if they get sick? lol Are you fucking serious with that? These girls don't give a shit if they are going to be able to eat lunch tomorrow much less about paying for health care. What business do YOU work in?

My article wasn't about HIV, it was about the silence of the industry on this subject when virus and high risk discussions are very heated as of late. Where is the outrage that most of the big name porn stars with some exceptions of course, are sucking and fucking uncovered dicks?

To take it one step further... as men put yourself in the shoes of the escort customer. He has a date to fuck his favorite porn star. A girl he has jacked his dick to a hundred times and thinks is God's gift to cock. How long do you think he's going to last when she does the things to him he sees her do in her movies? Legs behind her head or whatever? Think it's gonna be more than a minute? I don't. But here he's paying $3500 for an hour and he's busted his nut in 60 seconds... what's he gonna do? He's gonna keep going thanks very much to the good folks at pfizer and now she's got a pool of his unborn babies swimming inside her. I guarantee that shit happens on a regular basis.

So anyone who says porn stars escorting isn't a risk to the rest of the industry they are retarded. I have never had an STD of any kind and I wish to keep it that way.

Thanks for posting Mariah. It's nice to have some alternative voices in here. :)

And damn, you are a hottie! :bowdown

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I love girls with big boo...er, big brains! :love-boob

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so wait. piracy causes pornstars to be hookers? wow.

How do I get me some of those? :1orglaugh

I admit, I lolled.

Piracy has caused many of the studios to close and the reveneu of the sites that hire talent to lower their rates to the point that girls are making much less per scene, and I would assume making escorting more attractive to them. I have heard that there are girls in LA doing bg scenes for $400! I know that's the normal rate in Tampa lol but in LA? That's loooooooooooow

but all the freetards out there keep saying that piracy has no effect and has no cost because it is just a copy, not a lost sale.

Of course they would fuck someone with a test and not use a condom. Who wouldn't?
I wish that women would come up to me in a nightclub and show ME a test! I'd be happy as pie! LOL!

And I appreciate what you are saying...but I'm telling you that number one: You're missing out making an extra $250,000 to $500,000 a year. And "yes" you can use a condom EVERY time.

And if you decided to only fuck on film for some moral reason...I don't know what to say. That's your choice. But this IS the adult industry. And shooting porn is merely a small offshoot of the sex industry.

I'm a "live and let live" kinda guy. And I personally think that you writing your op-ed piece will get you patted on the back and praised by some. And at the same time it puts a LOT of girls in danger of being arrested.

I'm sure that you are hoping that article will get picked up in a big way by the mainstream press and translate into traffic to your website and free publicity for you. I can understand that.

I still stand by my own experiences in this world. Escorting is a major business. Sex is one of the best things a person can enjoy in this life. And men will always pay to have a fantasy "cum" true.

I don't know what else to say on a adult business forum. And I don't want to argue about it as this isn't an issue I care to go on and on about. People in this business that stop and think about it for a second understand. Those that don't never will. :)

No...piracy has hurt the producers, DVD sales, paysites, and male talent. The girls have ALWAYS escorted and danced at clubs.

The piracy has driven the overall revenue the girls make way UP because they are now more famous than ever. In other words more people are seeing their FULL scenes (killing all of our money) but at the same time the girls starring in the scenes are getting more people than ever in history seeing them do full scenes. And they are able to command more money escorting and stripping than ever before.

And escorting and stripping is where the money has always been for women in porn. If you don't believe me...come here to Nevada, go to the Mustang Ranch. Take an unknown girl and Sara Jay in to work there. Watch which one makes a fortune. :)
Then take them both to the Spearmint Rhino...watch which one makes the most money in the VIP room.

Mariah...they weren't looking to "pay that much for pussy"

You are in the ADULT FANTASY business.

That is what they wanted. A fantasy. You are a star in their eyes. What do you think you are doing when you shoot a porn scene? You are providing a fantasy to men. The same thing you do on webcams. You are in the sex industry. And you are someone that your fans fantasize about being with.

So no...I wouldn't have "laughed" at someone trying to fulfill a fantasy. Charlie Sheen sure fulfilled his. :)
And he's not the only one. It happens all the time.

When a man works and achieves the kind of money to have the finer things in life...he does. And "pussy" is not what they were offering to pay you for.

They wanted to have the opportunity to scratch off something from their "bucket list". Hell, who doesn't fantasize those kinds of things? The difference is, that some guys actually have the means to do it.

In this current economy we struggle in...I'm glad that you were able to turn down $50,000. But goddamn...for $50 grand I'd put a wig and a pair of falsies on myself and go. :1orglaugh

in perth you could make 50g in a few weeks escorting

You mean me personally? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I may have to fly out there on "business" for a couple of weeks. :pimp:pimp:pimp:1orglaugh

well i could try give me a call when you get here

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We appreciate to hear your side of the matter Mariah, but blaming recent events on escorting is pretty pointless. Even if it is true there is absolutely no way to control it whether they escort or not, and no real way to prove if they have or not.

The only thing that would help is to have tighter regulation on testing, have people tested shortly before shooting, a month is far too much time. A few days would even be better, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure it can't infect you to the point of spreading it after only a few days--correct me if i am wrong though.


oops not really posted by her, my bad.

Things have changed a lot in the last few years.

I know a LOT of porn stars that work for the two biggest escort agencies out here, TLC and MPP, and they do NOT get the option of using condoms.

In fact almost all of the calls they do are done bareback

Also the girls don't make anywhere near what they used for escort calls. Most porn stars see guys for around $300 to $500.

One of the main reasons these guys pay the premium for a porn star is so they can fuck them without a condom.

This is one of the main reasons we have such a high rate of chlamydia and gonorrhea in the adult industry, if everyone was only fucking people that were tested and people got treated when they tested positive there would not be so many stds.

finally a good post by Dan:thumbsup
fact if escorting pays more than modeling, it is less work and your family cant find pics of you smoking dick....

but i think it is still illegal, perhaps time to legitimize it and demand "health cards" updated monthly with testing.

Those are girls working for agencies. That's not where the money is and I can guarantee you that the girls making the most money out here call their own shots and DO use condoms. :) You should know that.

Don't you think that's a little uncalled for? This is a discussion, not a name-calling session.

Maybe I should have started with...
We all sell sex in one form or another and it's still much safer to be having sex with someone who is in the industry than a random hook-up from a bar. If she doesn't like the way the industry as a whole operates than she should find a new line of work.

Mariah has no problem calling out performers who sell sex on screen and off and says they can't be trusted. She's a liar, hypocrite and thief and anyone who is reading what she writes shouldn't take it at face value. If she had to borrow $200 from me and still can't pay it back then she shouldn't have deleted the email from Saudi royalty offering her $50k, but I don't believe that happened, maybe she confused it with another email from a Nigerian prince with $50k, in which case I've gotten a few emails from him and deleted them as well.

Mariah has fucked over a few people, so I have no issue coming in here and calling her names. I have her real name and a copy of her ID from when she was using my cam network yet I am decent enough to not make that info public. Let me have my fun, I haven't gotten my two hundred bucks worth yet :winkwink:

Very well said Mariah. She identified the problem but offered no solution. Pornstars who escort will keep on doing it.

I really don't get what all the hoopla over that is anyway. Sex is FUN. Getting paid for doing something that is fun...is even better!

Nobody here can speak for what every girl in the adult industry does behind close doors, or what a "agent" in LA says or does. But the bottom line is this:
If the world suddenly turned upside down, and the vast majority of women suddenly would pay men to have sex...I'd be an escort. No doubt about it. I LOVE sex. I LOVE money.

So no, I find no fault with hot girls escorting and making lots of money. I'm just shocked that so many folks on an adult industry (which is the SEX industry) message board have problems with girls escorting.

Escorts, strippers, & porn stars are the cleanest girls on earth. I've caught the clap a few times since the 1980's and I never got anything from a girl in the sex industry. It was always from some "civilian" girl. First time was from a beautiful college coed that I fucked in Daytona Beach during spring break in 1984. Last girl in the world you would have thought would have the clap.

But sex industry girls? They make their living with that pussy. They can't take a chance on anything going wrong.

Anyway...I just hope that all this talk doesn't set the govt. to trying to arrest high dollar escorts now. Jesus Fuck, they have taken away almost every last goddamn thing that's any fun in this world. Please don't get them started and cost us our fantasy hookers too. :pimp

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Be safe... :smilie_we

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There is nothing even close about streetwalkers and high dollar escorts. Completely different worlds between a girl who makes a quarter million to half a million dollars a year having sex with wealthy gentleman VS a girl on a street corner giving blowjobs for $50 to support a crack habit.

It doesn't even belong in this conversation. :)

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Yeah your cam network that decided on the day of payouts that the thousands of dollars I referred in sales should be charged back even though your rep went on GG&J saying that your company eats all chargebacks because of your high confidence in your scrubbing. On top of that you refused to provide one piece of evidence that my customer charged back and I continued to get sales notification emails for 2 weeks after the incident.

You are a douche bag internet porn dinosaur who has nothing more to do with his time than troll GFY and cry about $200 from 7 years ago. If I had $100 million I wouldn't give you 50 cents. I don't give a shit if you post my real name and ID. It would just show the type of person you are.

And once again I see someone doesn't have any reading comprehension and sees the article written about girls escorting when it really isn't. It's about the fact that it's rampant and it's bringing high risk to set every day yet no one is saying a fucking word about it. That's what the article is about. The focus being on the easier target of cross over male gay for pay.

Bitch fight!!! :helpme

Honestly, I don't have a whore...er, horse in this race :party-smi

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IMHO (In My Horny Opinion), Mariah wins by a pussy hair...although nice pro technique with the balls there Kenny! :thumbsup

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1. Why is that way more men have been exposed to HIV, than women in this business, yet it is way more difficult for a man to get HIV from a female in sex?

2. As for escorting, if you can prove to me that with escorting girls are now more promiscuous than say 2-3 years ago off set, you might have an indirect point, but then you would have to totally ignore the stats and my implied point in #1.

Mariah, you should approach OSHA and see if they want to pay your fee to your next shoot, because I doubt the likes of Manwin, Naughty America, Hustler, or any other major producer is going to read your open-invite to OSHA for more regulation and be happy. If you feel your at risk, you have the ability to exert that influence on set, for when and if people book you, and when you feel there could be direct exposure.

The rest just sounds like bitterness and drama.