It really cracks me up to hear some of you rag on a porn girls intelligence given the stupidity of some of the statements in this thread.

I think that it's either a male brain thing...

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...or it's a dick thing:

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I'll let you know after I rub one out and have some time to think about it... :winkwink:

ADG

I think everybody should take a deep breath and a couple of steps back.

This should remain a conversation in my opinion. Not people ripping into each other...again.

There are lots of valid opinions and viewpoints here in this thread. Everyone has different experiences and knowledge from those experiences.

I'm of the viewpoint that writing that op-ed piece was not a good thing to do. Everything that is put out like that ends up being ammunition for the govt. and the enemies of our industry to use against us.

That was my gripe. I just didn't see any need for that piece. Everybody in and out of the industry already knows the score. Hell, there are entire websites with girls and rates posted.

In my humble opinion...with no animosity at all...I just disagree with Mariah writing that. It becomes something that anti-porn forces can point to and say: "See! One of their own said it!"

lol

you do realize that when you were arguing with me you claimed the exact opposite.

I think when diverse viewpoints are expressed, it is a positive thing which shows that the adult industry, like the public-at-large, has a wide range of attitudes, beliefs, and practices.

I've had a few assumptions challenged, and even learned a few things, in this thread.

I for one am pleased to have articulate women in this industry speak up and make their voices heard, even though I may not always agree with them completely.

Since I shoot a lot of glam and softcore in addition to hardcore, I know that there are lots of models/performers for whom the sideshow fame which the adult industry offers is more fame than they ever possibly imagined (videos, magazines, tradeshows) - it can all be very exciting and seductive for them.

When models who have dreamed of modeling most of their lives are picked up and taken out for a manicure/pedicure, then get to sit in a make-up chair for the first time, and have a whole crew scurrying around to help them look and do their best, some practically forget about the pay.

Granted, many if not most girls in LA/Miami/NYC, are often more jaded, and for some it's all about the money first. For them, perhaps it's not such a big leap into escorting.

Anyway, I have mixed feeling on the whole issue, in part because I believe that prostitution (if you want to call it that), should be legalized, and protected for health and safety (even if that requires some regulation, taxation, etc).

Since I am in the content side of the industry, my primary interest is focused on ensuring the health and safety of our performers, which is difficult enough as is. I think it just gets way more complicated when civilians are added to the mix.

In a perfect world, it would be nice perhaps if we could pay our adult performers well enough that escorting would need not be a financial consideration, but this is far from a perfect world.

At the end of the night I say say dance this mess around!!! :)



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ADG

Mariah does make a very good point, but as usual Robbie tells it how it is, raw and honestly.

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that escorting is somehow morally different than having sex on a porn set. You're getting paid to have sex in both instances.

Seeing that the industry already has an image issue in regards to how the general public perceives its participants, we all should be very careful about how we portray our own and what we say about our own.

Escorting does increase the risk of STI's spreading throughout the industry, but when it comes to the money it's a clear winner. If a client decides that she and her friends want to be fucked all weekend while their husbands are on a "hunting trip" and are willing to pay $15,000, including travel costs, I would be there with my cock in hand. Hypothetically speaking, that is.

Casting blame here and there solves nothing. We all know the risky behaviors involved with this industry. Voicing them is good, but we should take care not to be too judgmental. If there is one group of persons that should be open-minded in regards to what goes on during sex between consenting adults, it should be us.

The industry actually guides the fantasies involved with one of the most powerful human desires on the planet. Why aren't we collectively using that power to change public and government perception in our favor? Different viewpoints should not be allowed to hamper such a force.

Let's get it together, shall we? :2 cents:

but we need hookers...:thumbsup
and we cant fix that problem so its easier just to put all blame on them gheys..

Mariah has her own affiliate program

check it out http://pornstarpayday.com/

she has tons of content

some good sites as well
www.fuckedwithastrapon.com looks like it will sell for sure

She's right on the money, but it will never happen. Too much drugs involved in this.

Which hasn't been updated in nearly a year. :helpme

:thumbsup Now that was funny!

That damn pic will haunt me forever, you put one fake cock in your mouth and no one let's you forget it! Sure hope I didn't catch the aids!

Agreed :2 cents:

interesting reading..........

I didn't start the ripping .... the same people always seem to rip the very talent that supports their living. While ripping them .... as producers , shooters or whatever, they don't even know What an Elisa test, PCDNR test or Western Blot test is. Sorry, but if you're a producer / shooter you should know that.

Mariah can post whatever she wants .... Freedom of speech, and to some degree she's right .... it is a problem. It's become a more recent problem than 4 or 5 years ago because back then there was more than enough work to go around and girls didn't have to escort to make their money, but these days it's become the norm. Sorry, if you think that most agents in the business don't set up escorting your just being nieve or turning your head, because most of them do . Maybe not all, but most, and a lot of them are the larger agents. However, when I say she's right to some degree .... I mean it's only the beginning of the issue. Like some others have said, it's just as much escorting as it is Male / female talent banging someone else the night before after partying that isn't in the industry and not tested. Hell that's probably a bigger issue. Question is , what can you do to prevent it .... nothing ... even if you stopped the escorting , which i have no idea how you would, how are you gonna stop some party maniac from banging anyone and everyone any chance they get ? This most recent Hiv scare is a perfect example .... regardless of whether pt 0 turned out negative, people on the quarantine list were still running around trying to bang people. Some people just don't give a shit . It's a scary thought .... but it is what it is. 15 day testing would be a great step in the right direction. If you're gonna complain about it as a model , well then go back to your old job before porn, plain and simple.

On the subject of the conversation turning nasty, Tia I wasn't talking about you girls. I was talking about how some of the discussions on here quickly degenerate...and it's mostly us guys doing it.

As for freedom of speech...of course we all have that. But keep in mind that by posting that kind of thing the govt. will use our "freedom" of speech to possibly take away more of our freedoms in the process. They use those kind of statements as "proof" that the porn industry is "evil". You know how they are and how they twist stuff.

As for escorting? It has never been a "problem". Girls have ALWAYS done it...and it's not a "problem" at all. And the money made for a porn shoot has NOTHING to do with it.

I was talking to a friend of mine today who is the husband of a VERY well known porn star who got into the business at the end of the 1980's and just caught the tail end of the "big time" in porn.

He told me that she would get $35,000 to be shot for 3 sets of photos for a magazine. She was flown in to exotic locations, given a big suite, a limousine. he told me they even had a private chef on set for him and her. Guess what? She was still a high dollar escort.

It has nothing to do with the money being paid by guys shooting porn scenes. They have never and never will match the money that girls with a name make escorting.

And yeah, I know that a lot of porn girls get burnt out and don't even enjoy sex as much anymore. But not all of them. Some girls LOVE sex. And men LOVE to pay them for it.

I see no "problem" there. I'm just kinda surprised that you call it a "problem" and that many others in this business are calling it that.

Way before you or even I were in this business...the girls escorted. They always have and always will. This is not something that suddenly started happening a lot 4 to 5 years ago. It really isn't.

My first taste of "porn star" escort was in 1999 when I flew to L.A. to talk some business with a company. They laid out the red carpet for me. When they asked me what I wanted to do while in L.A., I mentioned a girl who was on the cover of one of the "big 3" porn mags.

They told me "no problem". She showed up at my hotel room that night at 10 p.m. and I had a fantastic time seeing one of my fantasies come true.

That was twelve years ago. And this particular girl was making more money than you can imagine at the time. Didn't mean she was going to walk away from making even MORE easy money.

Flash forward to 2011...the ONLY thing I see different is the fact that there are escort sites which list them now. Back then, it was more on the down low. But please trust me...if I had had the money back in the 1980's I could have fucked any major studio porn star girl that I wanted. I wasn't old enough in the 1970's or I would have been able to do it then too. Of course same for the 1990's and 2000's.

It's not a "problem". It's a part of the adult industry...which is the SEX industry. I would think that people in our business would be a little more broad minded and not so hung up. :)

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Can I come live with you and Claudia Marie? :1orglaugh :winkwink: :pimp

ADG

Look, i love asian women. Leave me alone.

I have often thought that eventually you and I would team up in superhero costumes to fight crime. :1orglaugh

But seriously...after reading Tia's threads, I'm starting to come to the sad realization that I'm never gonna have a fantasy one on one private session with Tia Ling. :(:(:(:(

Tia, please reconsider. :)

I could always hire both of you for an Asian Diva Girls scene... :winkwink:

As for teaming up as Superheroes, I've been giving some thought to that too, "Ace":

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ADG

So instead of being "ADG" you would be one half of "AGD" ? :pimp

100 Porn Star Escorts...

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As long as I get "top" billing... :winkwink:

ADG

Wait a minute...just because I was bottom when we partied in YOUR hometown of San Francisco (and you know how THAT town is), you promised that I could be on top next time. :disgust

Wait a minute yerself there, Ace, all I remember saying is that I wouldn't cum inside of you...so don't try and pull that switchies buulshit! :mad:

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Oh yeah, and sorry about not pulling out, hehe (couldn't help myself - I'm not a professional man-whore like you).

I'm starting to have second thoughts... :Oh crap

ADG

It's okay...that one tiny "poof" of dust that came out of your cock tested "negative" so all is forgiven! :1orglaugh

I guess the Doctor forgot to tell you...

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You caught teh ghey.

ADG

Very well said and very well true, a lot of these chicks basically admit this on Twitter

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ADG