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will76 09-19-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18436454)
Who said "No traffic"?

The problem today isn't no traffic. It's not enough traffic to age a single sign up. When 99 get off for free, well not free it's paid for by the 1 who buys, something is wrong. When 999 get off for free it's a big problem. When 4,999 get off for free it's a disaster.

We have worked the traffic end for years and clearly this is where we got. From 99 getting off for free to around 4,999 now getting off for free. Does that mean traffic is the problem or in it lies the solution?


If traffic is so easy to get Paul, then why do you have none? :2 cents:

Argos88 09-19-2011 12:50 PM

well.. the business is pretty done...

people dont buy anymore since everything is free at filesonic.

porno jew 09-19-2011 12:53 PM

i would be surprised if your sites had 500 uniques a day all together.

BAKO 09-19-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18436909)
More powerful fail tips from gfy's proudest troll.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

shade001 09-19-2011 12:59 PM

Paul, you forget some of us were around when you started your paysite and had to lead you by the hand getting your tour straightened out. It was pretty hard to do so as you would never admit you did anything wrong, you just argued in circles until you finally made changes without admitting you didn't know what you were doing in the first place.

I also know many of your affiliates back then so yeah, you had SOME traffic b/c of THEM. You never figured that out either. Generally, their conversions were shit while your stats showed of course magical stats right out of a unicorn's ass.

So know that you are only blowing smoke up your own ass. No one else is buying it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18436605)
My sites have always had traffic. It's the stupidest of stupid assumptions to assume they never had any. They would of closed 10 years ago with NO traffic. But stupid is Squealers middle name.

Did I have enough traffic to make sign ups? Well enough even today to keep the sites open.

Were the sites our only focus of business. No way, just a third string.

Crazy that a person who visited our studio and offices, met the studio staff, the office staff, saw the 2,000 sq ft studio. Thought he was not offering me enough to kiss his ass. Thinks we did all that, ran 4 sites with no traffic.

Squealer, you're too funny.


Sid70 09-19-2011 01:06 PM

Paul = Nalem?

porno jew 09-19-2011 01:09 PM

paul if traffic is so easy to get make a site and get it up to 50k uniques a day. should be easy to do. let us know how it goes.

Paul Markham 09-19-2011 01:51 PM

Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...acelesbos.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rkhamcash.com&

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 09-19-2011 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18437014)
I am not talking about offline. I said online. Offline I can understand it's a lot lower.

Let me rephrase:
Right now no less money is being spend on ONLINE porn (which including cams and dating) than what was being spend 10 years ago on online porn. I would go as far as saying that MORE money is being spend.

People that work in online porn who make less money than they did 10 years ago failed to adapt or innovate.

Show the stats that prove you're right.

Jakez 09-19-2011 02:03 PM

Paul is going to tell us how to get traffic? Lol

I am getting under 1:100 consistently (across 100's of signups) on some programs. Even if you knew how to get the traffic you still have to know what to do with it.

Edit: oh wait, the thread started out as a traffic discussion and Paul quickly trolled himself (that's a new one!) and derailed his own thread into talking about conversions and other nonsense again.

porno jew 09-19-2011 02:04 PM

50 oblivious old fools.

Paul Markham 09-19-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 18437349)
My point Paul, is that you don't actually know what you're talking about here. You need to be asking questions and listening instead of lecturing.

The SMART way to go about it is to open up your icq and find someone who's had some serious success and is still in the game, who is patient enough to answer your questions and help you monetize your content in ways that actually make sense. Conversely, you can use the Alien biz model of thinking that you already know what you need to know, keep spinning your wheels and wonder why you're working so hard and not making any money.

I'm talking about the product, not traffic. The product, is something I do know a lot about. Or did I survive 34 years producing porn and not knowing anything about it?

OK tomorrow you and I can chat and you can tell me how to monetize my content and I can tell you how to create a better product. You can post my comments for others to see. I will need logins to your site first, to see what you're doing.

Deal?

I'm sure as a sponsor you've done well, do you want to do better?

So far no one has come up with one logical statement about where I'm wrong. A lot of trolls are talking about traffic, I'm not. A lot are talking about our sideline, the paysites.

As a porn consumer, producer and seller over the last 30 years, I've learned a little about how to improve the product. Went to share knowledge?

Today I'm retired and just living off what I shot for the last 20 plus years. Got more than enough to live the rest of my life on and the money coming in, is extra.

Argos is the guy who has it nearly right. Today fewer buy porn than they did last year and the year before that. And that trends continued for years. And no one is doing anything to turn it around. Maybe you are, so let me see what your product is like tomorrow and chat.

Konda is also wrong, 10 years ago this industry was much smaller. What matters in business isn't what happened 10 years ago, it's what happens this year and next. Stop thinking of the past Konda.

Sorry about the mistake Konda, I never guessed you would be comparing online from 2001 and today, you're still guessing. As so few have audited accounts. AFF share launch I think was an indication of what people think of Dating. Have they forgotten the idea or what? I thought the shares tanked.

Can you give us a link to the shares price?

will76 09-19-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18436605)

Did I have enough traffic to make sign ups? Well enough even today to keep the sites open.

You could make 1 sale month and keep your sites "open". Seriously how much do you need to pay for a hosting account for a site that gets no traffic??? and other than hosting costs what the hell do you need to pay for your site??? :pimp


If I am 70 years old, supposedly retired and I am still on GFY trying to argue with everyone and telling them all how I am right and they are all wrong, spending all day writing books about non sense then some one please fucking shot me.

Paul, you are one old clueless bat shit crazy mother fucker. It's pretty sad, why don't you enjoy golden years instead of spending your last days trying to convince people of something you are not - smart.

If you want to be a legend in your own mind then you can do that without having to post so much on gfy and tryign to convince others of it, No one is ever going to believe that you know much of about anything. Find 1 person here who agrees with what you say. Just 1 person.

papill0n 09-19-2011 02:36 PM

youre a fucking photgrapher paul - get over yourself mate

you are the most arrogant, ignorant cunt here

fucking troll

papill0n 09-19-2011 02:38 PM

your combined traffic after 34 years in the biz < 500 uniques a day

sux to be you homegirl

DamianJ 09-19-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18437941)
your combined traffic after 34 years in the biz < 500 uniques a day

sux to be you homegirl

Traffic is easy. Idiot.

Jel 09-19-2011 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18437832)
Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...acelesbos.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rkhamcash.com&

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries. :1orglaugh

I'm dead right. Problem is you are also too stupid to realise that:

a) mixedracelesbos is a micro-niche site
b) mixedracelesbos is far from my main source of income

Fail. Again.

theking 09-19-2011 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18437898)
I'm talking about the product, not traffic. The product, is something I do know a lot about. Or did I survive 34 years producing porn and not knowing anything about it?

You know about your product/content period. If traffic is so easy to get and your product/content is so great then you would be making millions off of your pay site...now wouldn't you...but you are not.

Yet you want to show others...that are doing fine with their pay site/sites and their content...how to improve their business.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to improve your pay site and content so that you can earn the money...that those you wish to lecture...are making?

Clueless is as clueless does.

wehateporn 09-19-2011 04:56 PM

GFY should be paying Paul for this, perhaps they already are :2 cents:

Posts: 29,508

porno jew 09-19-2011 05:00 PM

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theking 09-19-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18437898)

Today I'm retired and just living off what I shot for the last 20 plus years. Got more than enough to live the rest of my life on and the money coming in, is extra.

That is not true. You left off that you get a check from the government and that your wife has to work...to make ends meet.

wehateporn 09-19-2011 05:10 PM


alias 09-19-2011 05:14 PM

Ya'll niggas postin' in a Paul Markham thread.

Just Alex 09-19-2011 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18438227)
That is not true. You left off that you get a check from the government and that your wife has to work...to make ends meet.


Paul is on welfare program?
Oh shit :(

WarChild 09-19-2011 07:41 PM

Please stop arguing in these threads. Let the crazy old man ramble on without an audience.

EukerVoorn 09-19-2011 08:02 PM

My signup ratio has always been between 1/250 and 1/500 (and in the VHS/DVD mailorder days it was 1/1000) and I've always been happy with that (well untill I started using Zombaio because they don't process credit card, they decline them hahahahahaha). For the rest I'm curious about what Paul has to say, since he's an old fart I sure us punks can learn things from him. Also I'm seriously considering giving all my older content away for free using tubes, that should generate a lot of traffic because I'm one of the best pornographers in the world (together with 10,000 others lol). I now find my content (old and new) back on thousands of tube sites so I might as well give it away for free, in better quality than these tube sites do and without ads/pop ups, hidden catches and other crap.

Are we on the same page here Paul?

EukerVoorn 09-19-2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18437931)
If you want to be a legend in your own mind then you can do that without having to post so much on gfy and tryign to convince others of it, No one is ever going to believe that you know much of about anything. Find 1 person here who agrees with what you say. Just 1 person.

I know Paul from another forum some years ago and he has my credit and some things he writes make sense. How he is doing himself at the moment isn't relevant. I agree with some things you write too though, even though you don't put it very politely. But yes when I'm 70 I hope I'll be sitting in my garden with my cats and my box of Amstel beer and my barbecue and some French slut sucking my dick and some German slut sucking my balls and some Italian slut sucking my ass and some Spanish slut licking my left ear and some Asian slut licking my right ear, instead of arguing with strangers in some forum.

Anyway... HELLO, I'M THAT JUST ONE PERSON!!!! So you have to suck his cock now, as you promised. Promise is a promise!

Paul Markham 09-19-2011 10:33 PM

Quote:

If you're aware of ANOTHER audience you're attracting and not satisfying, then you build something for them and redirect them.
This is exactly what I'm taking about.

will76 09-19-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 18438468)
I know Paul from another forum some years ago and he has my credit and some things he writes make sense. How he is doing himself at the moment isn't relevant. I agree with some things you write too though, even though you don't put it very politely. But yes when I'm 70 I hope I'll be sitting in my garden with my cats and my box of Amstel beer and my barbecue and some French slut sucking my dick and some German slut sucking my balls and some Italian slut sucking my ass and some Spanish slut licking my left ear and some Asian slut licking my right ear, instead of arguing with strangers in some forum.

Anyway... HELLO, I'M THAT JUST ONE PERSON!!!! So you have to suck his cock now, as you promised. Promise is a promise!

How about someone with more than 39 posts and reg date of Aug 2011 ??? :2 cents:

2intense 09-19-2011 10:53 PM

:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp (Post 18436433)
Yes please tell us Paul how to put it right...


Argos88 09-19-2011 11:06 PM

nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

porno jew 09-19-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 18438695)
nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

it means if you can't make money with paysites move on and make money with cams. :2 cents:

Paul Markham 09-20-2011 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18437944)
Traffic is easy. Idiot.

The problem which these clowns will never get is.

GETTING ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

To get a sign up for $30.

And none of them will address that. This thread isn't about how to treble the traffic and double the ratio. So obviously over their heads.

It's about how to get 1 more sign up from the 100s who say no and get them to stay members.

But all they want to talk about is getting more traffic. :Oh crap

Paul Markham 09-20-2011 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 18438695)
nobody really knows what adapt or die is...

people just repeat it, because its like a slogan, but nobody knows what it really means.

They think it's about giving away more free porn than the next man. :Oh crap

theking 09-20-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18438656)
This is exactly what I'm taking about.

Well...good for him...as we should not see another long winded post from you when one sentence is all that is required...now should we?

Emil 09-20-2011 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18437832)
Maybe Jel is right about my traffic skills.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...acelesbos.com&

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...rkhamcash.com&

But they don't seem so bad once you include the galleries. :1orglaugh

Google Images traffic suck ass. And I bet most of your traffic is coming from affiliates.

theking 09-20-2011 02:32 AM

BTW...Markham...you have stated before that your wife is as good a shooter as you...if not better...and if it is true that you are not physically capable of shooting...why then is she working at some minimal paying job to help make ends meet since your government check is not enough...instead of shooting?

With all of your knowledge that you want to dispense to Dig and others about how to improve their pay sites...and with traffic being so easy to get...as you claim it is...why isn't she shooting and she/you making hundreds of thousands if not millions per year instead of her having to work at a minimal paying job to help make ends meet along with the government check you receive?

TheDoc 09-20-2011 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18438859)
The problem which these clowns will never get is.

ENOUGH TRAFFIC.

To get a sign up for $30.

And none of them will address that. This thread isn't about how to treble the traffic and double the ratio. So obviously over their heads.

It's about how to get 1 more sign up from the 100s who say no and get them to stay members.

But all they want to talk about is getting more traffic. :Oh crap


The issue here is you don't practice what you preach... you never have.



Anyway, I run a couple fun product sites with my kids. More by luck, we got two sales (one person, purchased two products) at amazon, on a page only linked in our sitemap, we earned $1.12. I then showed them how the person and others, found the page, the stats in amazon, etc.

His response was perfect, he gets up to leave, I ask, what are you doing? he said, "Getting my phone to call people and tell them about my website so I make more money."

Of course he was talking about his play phone, but he understood exactly what to do, his logic was solid.

He never thought about making the page better, or maybe we could have sold the other 3 people and made money (yes in mainstream not everyone buys too), he got the message clean and clear... more people = more money.



Why is it that a 7 year old gets it but you keep missing the bigger picture?

Paul Markham 09-20-2011 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18438258)
Paul is on welfare program?
Oh shit :(

Not welfare. I'm an invalid, due to the cancer and my condition after the therapy. I get money from the UK and CZ Benefits scheme, something I've paid into for years. If I was to start working again, from the office a few hours a day, instead of trolling. I would lose those payments.





You'll see I'm unable to start work again. When I'm fit enough I'll probably go onto 2 Government retirement pensions.

It's just part of our income, about $1,000 a week. Next is the sales from the stores and sites and the biggest income from my private pensions, which I've paid in over the years 1980 to 2008.

So not exactly destitute or on welfare, see how fast myths can start on boards?

King is probably on welfare as well, if he claims this is welfare, from his payments as a disabled soldier. Which is something he has claimed.

theking 09-20-2011 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18438930)
Not welfare. I'm an invalid, due to the cancer and my condition after the therapy. I get money from the UK and CZ Benefits scheme, something I've paid into for years. If I was to start working again, from the office a few hours a day, instead of trolling. I would lose those payments.





You'll see I'm unable to start work again. When I'm fit enough I'll probably go onto 2 Government retirement pensions.

It's just part of our income, about $1,000 a week. Next is the sales from the stores and sites and the biggest income from my private pensions, which I've paid in over the years 1980 to 2008.

So not exactly destitute or on welfare, see how fast myths can start on boards?

King is probably on welfare as well, if he claims this is welfare, from his payments as a disabled soldier. Which is something he has claimed.

I did not and do not claim that you are on welfare...and yes I receive a check from the VA for being a 100% disabled Vet as well as a SSA disability check for the same reason...which I too paid into...but to some people a government check is nothing more than a form of welfare.

I have a substantial sum of money invested in the stock market...which I invested in when I sold all of my properties I had acquired over more than a twenty year period. That was always my primary business...which I began while I was still in the Army.

I do not touch my investments and just roll dividends over as well as add to the investments as I only use about half of my SSA and VA checks to live off of...which is easy to do as I own every thing I have outright and being single I do not have a lot of expenses.


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