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how many people pic up a porn mag and flip through it and put it down before they buy. hundreds or thousands. |
http://www.familysafemedia.com/porno...tatistics.html
this is from 2006 but the stats say the following Age % 18-24 13.61% 25-34 19.90% 35-44 25.50% 45-54 20.67% 55+ 20.32% |
No young people buy porn idiotface!
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You know... I was in the visa/processing business before I started on the Internet, then I've used them for the last 15 years online. I should really go around and school all these processors in all that is wrong, even though they've been around for 15 years and I've never owned one myself, if I just adapt Paul's methods, I will have educated them, corrected them, and we would all be richer today. :1orglaugh |
of course bev biffman or steve roberts or some other forgotten porn shooter from the 80s makes money now shooting weddings so that alone is proof no one can convert anything anymore anyways.
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Maybe people are now realising that giving porn away for free is good. If you keep it to 10 seconds clips and 10 softcore images. And 2-4 weeks after the samples were given away taking them down. That's too sensible for the experts in porn. Handing control of how much is given away over to people who were giving it away, hosting it all for them, in fact not only giving them control, but paying them more than they were worth, giving them every tool they demanded, running sites to suit them rather than members and owners. Wasn't the brightest move for a business to take. Because today it's obvious. You end up with an absolutely gigantic free porn barrier between consumers and sellers. Ho Hum, pity someone wasn't listening to voices telling them it wasn't the brightest thing to do. Ten years ago. I could of told them this at the Prague show and the back drop to my little speech would be the banners with all the free tubes advertising the content that have for sale. People would be too busy to listen as they're busy buying traffic. :1orglaugh Damian, do you have anything positive to offer. Do you have suggestions to turn the tide? Because you're slipping back to trolling. I wouldn't take those stats seriously. http://familysafemedia.com/pornograp...ldporngrap.jpg Go check the site. |
Thank god surfers/porn buyers don't agree with Paul.
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Yes, almost two years of free tips, ideas and practical advice over at www.adultmarketing.co.uk. Do you have anything positive to offer? Or are you just saying the same old shit you always say about wishing it was 10 years ago and free porn is bad? (That was rhetorical, clearly you never say anything positive and just moan and whine like a little girl). Quote:
What I am doing is mocking you. For saying the same old shit you always say. That is not trolling. Trolling is posting deliberately provocative statements for the sake of annoying people. HTH. Big hugs D |
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congrats on troll of the year paul
at least you can finally say you achieved something |
Am I the only one who thinks the pic of his award in his avatar coincidentally looks like a gravestone?
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Yes mock someone who has been pointing out the problem and solution for 10 years. A problem that's just got worse. Because no one wanted to hear about a solution, just too busy making the problem worse. Thanks for the bump. |
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the solution ? lets fucking see it ? last time we checked you have a paysite just like every other donkey absolutely not a thing new from you paul just lots and lots of hot air matey boy you are the epitome of 'all talk and no action' troll |
So by a country mile the opinion is 75% over the age of 35.
So let's assume these guys developed their tastes in porn over 10 years ago. Before the real days of online porn video. What would they want to pay for? Those who want it for free can GF themselves. We live off of and pay our bills with the 1 in a 1,000 who will buy. Or what ever number it is. What we produce today online, which is very much popcorn porn, easily digested and forgotten about 10 minutes later. A sort of quickie up against the wall version of porn. Theres going to be another one tomorrow and the next day. Fast, gets them off and really nothing to memorable about it. Or a one night stand, better so long as she's not a pain. Still you don't want to share breakfast with her. Definitely not lunch. Or a girl who stays the month and keeps you happy and contented. She's not got much more to keep your attention, nice for a month but no longer. Or a girl who keeps coming up with new things, keeps you hooked and you never want to leave. Took me 3 goes to find one of those, one of my brothers is still looking and he's lost count of the tries he's had. :) Online paysites sell monthly memberships. So do Webcams and Dating. Getting people into the site is a tough job today. Getting them to stay has to be number 1. Will give people some ideas later. |
damn dude you write all this shit like anyone actually gives a fuck or is going to listen to you. you are one strange fucker.
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Interesting poll.
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It's just people talking out of their arses and guessing. It's about as interesting as a billing seminar. |
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You don't. Your skills are important. Dressing the window is an art and that's what you're about. I'm about the inside of the shop and primarily the product. Michael anyone who has been in porn a few years will know it's always been generally an older customer. Pity is when I go to a show I see people who are a lot younger than the audience they sell to. No worries, they can send enough traffic to get a sign up. :Oh crap |
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People are posting their opinions. Not facts. As I told you, it depends on the source of the traffic, the product, the payment device etc. Half the people that chose to pay by phone on one client's site are 18-35. And a very large percentage of that is under 25, and a surprisingly large chunk is 18-19. They wouldn't pay on a credit card, but they are happy to pay with their phones. But you don't have a mobile version of your site, nor mobile billing on it, so you wouldn't see this sort of data. |
When push comes to shove it really doesn't matter what age group is most common for a particular site, they're all buying because they want to see more of what you've shown them on the site tour. Whether they are 18 or 80 their money is worth the same.
There may be some difference in how tech savvy younger buyers are compared to older buyers, and in how comfortable they may be with certain payment options, but it's relatively easy to make enough options available to appease most everyone. Besides, trying to pin down accurate age demographics for porn site buyers is pretty tough since that info is only available if the customer volunteers that info. |
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A 18 year olds taste in porn is going to be very different from a 50 year olds. They might like the same niche, but the packaging and style of the product has to be tempered to fit the different ages. Yes it's tough to pin down, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done and can't be. Yes they need to volunteer it, we should still be learning. Damian's skills are totally lost if he doesn't know who he's talking to. Try talking to an 18 year old lie you would a 50 year old and you lose a sale. And the other way around. |
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Like Windows 7, Google, and Hustler Magazine? :1orglaugh How many times have you talked to one of your surfers before they've purchased? :1orglaugh I have a feeling Damian understands this is marketing and we're not selling adult diapers, it's porn, get the cock hard, and game on! For real, did you make this shit up on the fly? |
We have a variety of people join our websites from 18 to 80 and both female & male.
Paul, I would have thought, it's the mature married men in their 40s that are most likely to purchase your niche of porn because the style, the models & the site that you run. |
Let's see...everyone in every age group likes sex -- so that would be everybody. How many of those people actually buy it is another story.
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Big tit lovers are big tit lovers whether they're 18 or 50. Same goes for most other porn niches. |
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Put simply, an 18 year old might like the 21st Century presentation of porn better than the 20th Century presentation. And the other way around for the older guy. Think in terms of Playboy and Ex Gf, both big tits. Yet presentation is totally different. If you understood porn you would of known this right off the bat. |
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Trust me, I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday. I'm currently in my 50's, started in the biz in my 30's. You do the math. What you're saying only applies if you're talking about a niche where the overwhelming majority of your customers are within a single age group. There are damn few of those. This biz has always been a matter of trial and error, repeating what works and dropping what doesn't, the trying something else. By marketing to a specific age group you risk alienating the others, and you simply can't get reliable data on surfer ages to know just how large a factor that really is. You're just guessing. I don't make those kinds of major site changes based on guesses. |
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Your theory is flawed because, YOU do not know the age group of the surfers visiting you. You can't auto detect that and flip the presentation for them. You do not buy traffic from sources with that information, at that even if you did it would only be a micro bit of your traffic... at that, it would only be marketing, and not the presentation. That's how I know you made this shit up out of thin air. Seriously, you need to shut up. |
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If you were 50 and been in business for very long, you would know that. Trial and error is useless offline. It will send you bankrupt. |
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Trial and error is useless offline? So trying to market new ideas is useless? Seeing if a new product might work, is useless? Trying something new like groupon to see if it drives in more customers, is useless? So if it doesn't work fully the first time, and you adjust, and get it to work the second time, did they not just do trial and error to make it work? If you have no trial and error, how do you learn, adapt, and change with or beat out your competition? Exactly... I'm starting to think you've never owned a business, but rather ALWAYS worked for someone else while pretending you ran a business. |
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You're guessing because there is no reliable way to track the age of all visitors to your site. |
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He learned the "split testing" word and what it means from Damian, but he still doesn't understand what it really means or all the various ways you can use it. |
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