Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18461066)

EVERY business is trail and error....

Trial and error is useless offline? So trying to market new ideas is useless? Seeing if a new product might work, is useless? Trying something new like groupon to see if it drives in more customers, is useless? So if it doesn't work fully the first time, and you adjust, and get it to work the second time, did they not just do trial and error to make it work?

If you have no trial and error, how do you learn, adapt, and change with or beat out your competition? Exactly...

I'm starting to think you've never owned a business, but rather ALWAYS worked for someone else while pretending you ran a business.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18449324)

So dumb, you have to think he's kidding. But not smart enough to pull off such an elaborate plan to look so dumb all the time... so he you're thinking that he can't be kidding. Then you think back quite a few years and you're thinking "yeah, actually he was always like this but it was just about other shit like politics, it was only after all his business completely tanked did he start babbling about tubes and why porn is a dead business and only he knows how to make money in porn".

He's always saying shit that no sane person can believe and so clearly speaking about things he knows nothing about, so you even though you know better, you still keep thinking "no one is this stupid"... but he's clearly not intelligent enough to pull off such an elaborate plan to consistently look so retarded just to wind people up, so you know that logically, he has to be this stupid... but its a sort of stupid that's just so deep, so profound and so unwavering no matter what facts are presented, that you are still thinking he can't be serious even as you start to realize he actually is.

The guy comes here to this forum to beg for money, admits his wife has to work to help pay the bills, his business is a joke, he lives off the government/pensions, not porn... but lectures non stop about how to make money in porn.

Such an epic mind fuck from the best accidental troll ever. A troll that's so dumb, he doesn't even know he's trolling... he actually thinks he's proving points and making sense. It's a stupid that runs so deep, a stupid that's so pure, that you kinda have to admire it in a way.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18461036)

He phoned them both up. One was a confused 18 year old guy and the other his granma trying to find out what he was banging her card on. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 18461073)

BULLSHIT! You try something you think will increase sales, track the results to see if it really does, then take further action based on those results. No guessing involved at all since long term actions are based on tracked results.

You're guessing because there is no reliable way to track the age of all visitors to your site.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18461516)

That works if you're an affiliate whose bills are being paid by sponsors. Then you can keep guessing.

Those of us in business for real can't afford to do this, We need to make decisions calculated on experience, knowledge and skills.

So a sponsor gets a bunch of models, shoots them, shoves up a site and then waits to see if it works. If it doesn't he gets a different bunch of models, shoots them and puts them into the same site. If that doesn't work he gets the first set of models, lets his mate sh ........................

Had to stop the bank phoned and told me I'm broke testing and trying different ways. :1orglaugh

Yes that was an extreme joke. But it's true, you can't keep "relying on trial and error" when each trail and error is losing you money.

Yes you're guessing, you're putting something up "relying on trial and error" to see if it works. You don't know what to put up before the results come in. Then you can try another guess to see if it works. With no way of knowing what will sell and to who it will sell. you don't even know where to start.

Can you tell us who you are, with some proof and show me this method works please.

I can prove it doesn't and we rarely made a guess when shooting girls, how to shoot them, who to sell it to and a few other things. Couldn't afford to do all the "trial and error" before we found a good one.

Do you want to send traffic to a sponsor whose "relying on trial and error" with your traffic. Or do you prefer to send it to a guy who knows what he's doing?

Now you can come back with a jibe and ignore the truth.

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18461078)

Exactly... that's why he twisted his words to say "offline" when we're all talking about online.

He learned the "split testing" word and what it means from Damian, but he still doesn't understand what it really means or all the various ways you can use it.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18461516)

That works if you're an affiliate whose bills are being paid by sponsors. Then you can keep guessing.

Those of us in business for real can't afford to do this, We need to make decisions calculated on experience, knowledge and skills.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18461516)

That works if you're an affiliate whose bills are being paid by sponsors. Then you can keep guessing.

Those of us in business for real can't afford to do this, We need to make decisions calculated on experience, knowledge and skills.

So a sponsor gets a bunch of models, shoots them, shoves up a site and then waits to see if it works. If it doesn't he gets a different bunch of models, shoots them and puts them into the same site. If that doesn't work he gets the first set of models, lets his mate sh ........................

Had to stop the bank phoned and told me I'm broke testing and trying different ways. :1orglaugh

Yes that was an extreme joke. But it's true, you can't keep "relying on trial and error" when each trail and error is losing you money.

Yes you're guessing, you're putting something up "relying on trial and error" to see if it works. You don't know what to put up before the results come in. Then you can try another guess to see if it works. With no way of knowing what will sell and to who it will sell. you don't even know where to start.

Can you tell us who you are, with some proof and show me this method works please.

I can prove it doesn't and we rarely made a guess when shooting girls, how to shoot them, who to sell it to and a few other things. Couldn't afford to do all the "trial and error" before we found a good one.

Do you want to send traffic to a sponsor whose "relying on trial and error" with your traffic. Or do you prefer to send it to a guy who knows what he's doing?

Now you can come back with a jibe and ignore the truth.