Rah rah rah we're going to smash the oiks!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh too funny!

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And all these posters ain't going to change it either.

That's the saddest part.

I doubt if there is a way out of it.

I made a post and so far no one has been able to say anything constructive about how it's wrong. Just a lot of stupid posts.

I'm not crying as I earned my money and got out. If you haven't secured your future, you're the one who will be crying.

If you don't have the business sense to get him to contact me or someone who can help him, that's your loss. Not mine and not your affiliates, they see what the problems are when they hit the site or the traffic doesn't convert. So trolling me about me helping you to get better pictures is stupid, get a better shooter or get him trained.

50 holes

I suggest magic join links to combat falling sales. I hear you are the expert on those paul, send me the infos, or post here, thanks :thumbsup

Pointless telling me, I have adapted. Retired and found another income stream.

You need to tell others how to adapt or do it yourself and keep quiet.

Best post I've seen for a while.

If Damian had the balls to come to Brno he would see we're doing fine, not rich and not poor. Got a steady income, made $4500 last month and this month will be better, already pass $3k. Nothing to boast about and could never live on that alone. Still not going to starve.

I've had 30 years of living the dream. Taking pictures of nude women, fucking a few and making a very good living doing it. Ended up married to the best woman in the world, which is why people like Porno Jew and Damian get me mad when they have a go at her. Me I don't care, neither does Eva. I care about people having a go at her, it says more about them than they imagine.

Also got a great kid and a great dog.

Just sad that a business that has been great for me, is coming to an end for most people.

Read my post in reply to seeandsee that's the future. :(

If your shooter wants to clear up some of his mistakes I can help him and willing to do so for free. He just needs a bit of direction.

Paul have you ever tried to convert tube traffic? if so post some stats.

I'm doing better than ever. Nowhere near your $4500 a month, but then I don't have 34 years in the biz.

Someone has a hole in their head.

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You will be for it when Eva sees what you have done to her best cooking pot....

Yes on a few Tubes, fucking awful.

Sausage had one and we were the top video liked and viewed, hardly sent traffic and no sign ups. Couldn't be just me, he sold out and is gone from adult.

Then a few more and it was awful.

AEBN have or had one and they were affiliates, sent 10,000s of hits a day. Absolutely floods of them, a few sign ups. Looked at the site. It was a coded link saying "See more of Paul Markham Teens." Looked at the stats and the average stay was seconds, they thought they were getting more free stuff and when they saw a paysite they didn't even bother to look around.

I have no doubt they have traffic that will convert and many of you are working the Tubes. But conversions of 1-500 is losing 499. Losing 498 would be better. Then how many views to see a surfer go to a site? 10, 20, 30?

That's 1-4,000 or 1-8,000 or 1-12,000. That's where the money has gone. Maybe 1-8,000. No industry can sustain that loss if it grows.

Tubes are mopping up the traffic fast, leaving little. And the traffic mopped up is converting worse than it used to. The next move will be more Tubes giving away more content. As TC said, it can't be changed.

No tell me how you get 100 views on a Tube and 5 sales or something equally crazy. Everyone knows the picture. Tubes sell traffic at crap prices, because it's not worth any more. If traffic is king, the kingdom is skint.

What you have to remember is my POV. I remember the days when Private flew a crew to shoot porn in Bali, Thailand, New Zealand, rented huge castles. When movies like the one Max shot were normal for many. When a magazine would pay $2,000 for a solo girl set, as a norm. And one decent video title sold 10,000 times in the US alone, every month and with rental on top.

The great days are over. Some of you were here in the good days and they're over.

Without being nasty, do you think where you will be in 3-5 years time, business wise?

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Yes, I do. Do you?

do not be rotten.

he is lucky to remeber where he is in 5 mins time, nor mind 5 years.

What you guys also need to consider is the length of time I've been in business, been selling and been in porn.

When I got to adult online I was surprised at the way it was run and some of the people in it. Look at DVTimes, for instance. No need to expand on that one. Then Damian, he says he's in marketing yet his attempt at marketing himself is appalling. Then Jel. And TC

DVTimes sites and shooting are a joke, unless you bought a membership there.

Damian goes on and on about split testing. Like it's a solution. It's like a dumb fisherman thinking if he throws his hook in one place and then another and then another, he'll get it right in the end. Anyone with a clue knows you have to start with a basic knowledge of the product you're marketing, market conditions and customer you're marketing too. Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic isn't making a lot of difference.

Jel's site sucks, because he can't afford to put decent content into it. His site says everything about him.

TC's shooter has a real problem with lighting, something I pointed out a long time ago. It's not fixed. Has he told his shooter to fix it? Affiliates hit that site and see what it's like, the good ones know that it will not do the best with their traffic. The bad ones will throw some traffic at it and will soon learn. Traffic is very important. RIGHT UP TO the minute it hits the site. Then it's all about the tour and his isn't good enough. A professional would know that.

Yes online content in general sucks. Getting the exposure right doesn't make it great porn. If it is great content, then why aren't the shooters or sponsors selling it offline. Leaving money on the table guys. Or simply, not good enough.

Then Online Adult Marketing. Yes I don't understand it. I don't understand why you call it marketing.

Back to the fisherman. He throws in some bait to attract some fish, they come, he throws in his hook with his bait and hopes one will bite it instead of the free stuff. Well we have 100s and 1,000s of people throwing in free bait and the odds on hooking a fish gets worse and worse.

And surfers aren't a s dumb as fish, they learn fast.

and after 12 years of selling successfully online and making more than most of you ever will. I'm the butt of your clever remarks. If I had any respect for most of you I would be upset.

post some screenshots of your stats

you live in an eastern block village on a pension and you had to send your wife off to work. fuck off you deluded old fool.

Finally, you got something right :thumbsup

you are so clueless it's painful. sometimes i wish i was a retard like you, life would be some much more simpler.

Amazing how long these threads get. Same rant, different text...

There's a hole in the bucket!
 

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Don't have them anymore. This was on Google Analytics and not going back to sort them out for this lot.

And you live????????????

And you do ???????????????

And you make ?????????????

And you think I'm deluded. :upsidedow

I live in a very nice peaceful village, 3 bed house, near fields, farms, a river and love it here.

Yes I had to send my wife out to work, being with her 24/7 was something, I didn't want.

PJ if you had something work talking about, you would post it. If you had something worth showing you would show it. If you had something worth anything you wouldn't be a jealous little mindless troll.

free porn put me out of business. i just come here for the laffs.

lol but those are poor losers who can't afford paying for porn, and for them you have the tubes.

Everyone wishes they were only the guys who couldn't afford to pay for porn.

Truth, there are some who buy from the dating and cam sites ads and even paysites. Otherwise paysites would be booming. Tube traffic is a lot of people who used to pat for porn.

google doesnt show conversions.

if you cut everything it makes a tube ;)

to be fair fris, you can't convert something that only happened in Paul's head.