I just notified the Lincoln, Nebraska police that she's stealing from a thousand people and linked them to this thread. They aren't going to be happy with her yet again.

oh no :1orglaugh

That's a hell of a lot of money left on the table!

good riddance

http://www.darksidedata.com/melissa.gif

Lifetime doesn't last long I guess ...

Go collect!!!! 20% up for grabs!!!

;))))

Same here. Though it's got a less than ideal admin and a hard scrub, at least I know I'm going to get paid for the sales I do manage to make.

let the whore know how you feel http://twitter.com/#!/Melissa_Midwest

am i only one who sees an NFL saints logo on that before it loads?

mmm sounds yummy. Im just having a cheap glass of merlot.. lol I know I know. cant beat walmart wine LOL

tempting - his mobile still works - hope he liked the 1am wake up call

Reading the twitter it makes me wonder whether her site has been hacked or not.

9th october : "Hey guys who's gonna catch my live webcam show tonight."

Another program fucking affiliates as their sales decline...


The special way we show you thanks is to stiff you on all of those rebilling customers you have collected.

What expenses did she actually have to "run" her affiliate program?

No business last for ever but when you say life time rebills, as long as you are collecting the money, paying out the affiliate for the rebills you collect, should last for ever. Not sure how much interaction she had with the site, but if she did weekly cam shows and was very involved with the members she would still be doing really well and not affected much by "today's marketplace" aka tube sites.

translated: We still have a good amount of rebills however very few of you are sending in new sales. So we figure this is a good opportunity to fuck you over and start collecting 100% of those rebills. What you going to do, "pull links" :1orglaugh most of you are not sending new sales anyway.

translated: May you not get fucked so hard in the future. We are not really going "out of business" we are just putting it on cruise control. My site will stay live, I will process new sales and I will keep billing the existing customers and making a lot from rebills. The only thing that has changed is that I wont be paying you your % of the rebill. I really don't give a shit what you think.

What part of "There will be no more payments." do you knot understand ??? :upsidedow

:winkwink:

Don't know if she wrote it, but on the site it says "NEXT WEBCAM SHOW :
October 9, 2011 at 8:30 P.M. EST " assuming that is her doing the cam show and not someone else, then she sounds like she is still involved.

While this may happen with a high percentage of solo girl sites, it also happens with a high percentage of non solo girl sites... :2 cents: Pretty much everyone, who pays "life time rebills" will do the same thing and screw people when their affiliates collectively stop sending in new sales, yet they are still making a lot of rebills. Solo girl site or not.

I haven't lost a penny from this but those who did is she and the owners of this program American? If so, maybe you can push for fraud charges by contacting the authorities in her jurisdiction. Many agencies will prosecute if it appears there is ample evidence that premeditated fraud has occurred.

The question here is how long did they know that the program would be shut down and how long have they been planning this. They seemed to have shut off the nats system immediately (so now you cannot see referring urls). They also evidently are not paying out money which was due previously. Did they provide any notice of this?

Don't just let them get away with it. Consider trying to make them pay for it. Write a few letters to their local sheriff or make a few phone calls. Use words like "possible fraud operation". It can easily happen that they choose to investigate and possibly prosecute.

In other words, possible premeditated fraud.

I understand closing an affiliate program in an attempt to make more money off dying sites. But since you promise "lifetime" %, at least give a notice so that affiliates can start pulling links and plan accordingly.

And saying there will be "no more payments" when you have tons of affiliate money unpaid is very unwise. Good luck with that!

there is no such thing as lifetime in adult, period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

I stopped actively promoting melissamoney when they added prechecked cross sales and good luck wanting more than 50% revshare like it was a privilege to promote them :\

Yep, she is lying, because looks like she IS still in business...

http://join.melissamidwest.com/signup/signup.php

liar liar pants on fire Melissa Midwest and crew...

nothing like a pretty face to shove a cock deep in the ass of the men she could woooo

joke is on all who fell for the "shes smart and not like the others"

lol

and the next girl is coming, quick SIGN UP TO PROMOTE HER! people forget these "girls next door" is just like a stripper, they gonna take it all and leave you standing there dick in hand HAHAHAH

Strange how these things are often predictable, isn't it. Usually there are signs in advance that the owners are scumbags it's just that people choose to ignore it. Any attitude of "You're just an affiliate and I don't give a shit about you" should be taken as an extreme warning sign that sooner or later you are going to be fucked if they aren't fucking you already.

Think about it. Prechecked cross sales on any revshare program is basically saying "You send me customers for free and I won't pay you jack shit extra for it. Ha ha. Fuck you! Thanks for making me richer!". No wonder they now think they can get away with taking the money and running.

seems biggy has turned into something of a scammer. even with fuckyoucash, the way the sites are set up is very shady. forcing you to upgrade before you see anything. he says this system works well for him and affiliates but hard to trust anything he says now.

If he was recently involved in this program which is running away with affiliate's money then you'd be a fool to trust him after this. But that's the thing. Lots of affiliates are fools. Even after years of getting fucked over and over in the same ways.

I remember this thread of hers, for anyone interested in ownership:

From her thread: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1016915

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110076289017747

LOL

her site also says this:

NEXT WEBCAM SHOW :
October 9, 2011 at 8:30 P.M. EST

yes I am bored sitting here with dye in my hair lol

So Melissa Money was owned by Fuckyoucash?
are you sure of this?

Damn, her site has been around for a long long time and used to be at the top of the sologirl heap.

Double damn.

Melissa was the first paysite I did in adult, well before FYC. I was an affiliate, we got fucked over at the time by the guy who was managing the site - Jim from Nebraska Coeds. I got fucked for $15k, Melissa/Shane for a bit more. We decided to come together to do the site. Shane was really the driving force behind the site, I don't think it should come as a shock to anyone that for a long time it was him posing as her (including on this board as Hotmelissa).

This is actually how I transitioned from being an affiliate to a program owner. I managed the website - technical, affiliate support, etc. They shot the content, paid the bills, and ran the brick and mortar operations, and everything else (including controlling the $) After college, I went on to form FYC and the rest with my partners today. So yeah, I understand where the lines are blurred about what my interest is.

I was on a profit split, and I was a minority, they were a majority. When she went independent, she had a lot of people contacting her to do her site, including Lensman from here at the time. Melissa's site was great for a period of time. Fuck, when she went hardcore, that thing shot thru the roof, a lot of people made amazing money including the affiliates. They are now out of $, through a bunch of very public poor investment choices that Mutt posted, so there is no $. It's sad, and honestly, I hope they pull through it.

As recently as last week people were complaining about not being paid. This was primarily due to the fact things were left as "unpaid" in payments.php, and I pointed this out to many affiliates who contacted me, because these issues had happened in the past. All affiliates who contacted me, except one (cornh0le) didn't actually know if they were paid or not. The one who was a confirmed non-pay I contacted them about. After about 4 un-replied emails, I told them I needed an answer, and only at that point was I informed they fell arrears by about 2-3 payments to all affiliates. I told them if there is no trajectory to get affiliates paid, then notice has to be given and we need to shut the program down.

Flame me away, allow me to be your punching bag.

Im available via ICQ for those who wish to reach out directly.

there is more than one females, including some now who have guys posting as them LOL

its always been easier to get business if you pretend to be a female, and especially hot ones who you can get to spread their legs for pics to drum up thread views, been that way for a LOOOONG time on gfy, im not surprised at all.

Bottom line, there is money still coming in, and rebills that affiliates deserve their share of. All you did was was advise them to fuck over everyone who made you all money, and who is still making you all money. There is trajectory to get affiliates paid, put aside the money the affiliates bring in, and fucking pay them.

True, but you don't have all the facts and honestly, I don't care about posting them. When you have 2 kids with 2 different women, including a recent new born, and they both come asking for more child support, while other businesses are shutting down after being pits for money, the option to pay affiliates goes out the door.

Just this week the NATS license expired. It took him 3 days to arrange a payment of $350 (i think this is what NATS charges for the license, maybe $650). I am not 100% privy to all of his details but I would imagine he's facing bankruptcy.

As for me making money. I have been operating the site at a loss just to ensure affiliates get paid. Now that they are clearly not getting paid, I made it a point that everyone knows.

im sorry but i fail to see how your child support or whos ever has a fucking thing to do with rebills not being paid on.

i also fail to see how you are at a loss. hosting? its not content production.

if the site has 5 active members and you are getting half of that, that covers hosting costs...

i just do not understand how the people who sent the sales are not going to get paid on the rebills they produced. to me thats just flat out theft.

obviously you dont have a family (kids) and/or have never faced bankruptcy. and clearly you dont understand the margins on a paysite because you forgot to include credits, refunds, processing fees, staff, and more.

and also, its not my child support. i am the messenger. i am here giving you the facts about what is happening, but no matter what i say reality isn't going to change. all i can give you is an understanding and transparency to the situation.

clearly the Lincoln police will be arresting Melissa this afternoon in her home.

child support, bankruptcy, nats license, fees, all I hear is FUCK YOU PAY ME!

Now you won't take losses on affiliate payments anymore, you can sit back and collect the rewards for the hard work you didn't do.

Whatever, I'm not here to argue, because there is no argument, you're a fucking crook, simple as that. So is Melissa, so is everyone involved. :321GFY

Bullshit.

Not a word about paying owed money to affiliates.

anything else? let me be your punching bag.

Sounds like bullshit to me.

Take a look at http://siteanalytics.compete.com/melissamidwest.com/

143,960 uniques to a paysite (just one) and you are telling me they can't afford to live and pay their affiliates?

You say Bankruptcy? What is the case number? If they really are doing that it is all the reason to try to not piss people off because all it takes is for someone to go to the trustee and bring up that this money was potentially obtained fraudulently (by defrauding affiliates) and the bankruptcy will take YEARS to complete.

What I think (based upon the numbers I see) is that someone just decided that they would make more by closing down the affiliate program and keeping rebills than they would make by accepting new joins from affiliates. This is due to the decline in sales. I don't know for sure but that is what I would suspect. Especially if there is no real BK filing.