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u-Bob 10-21-2011 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambrinus (Post 18505485)

sauce????????

pornguy 10-21-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18505247)
it wouldn't stop but it would be held in check, that is for sure.

Still waiting for the first tube site lawsuit where they sue "john doe" defendants, subpoena the site for their records and go after the people who actually uploaded the content ( in some cases this will be the tube site themselves.) The uploaders can't hide behind DMAC and if the site doesn't comply with the subpoena they will be fucked. When they do comply they will piss off all of their "uploaders" / users. Either way its a big win / win. I am still surprised no one has tried this approach yet.

Not even held in check. Just makes them work a little harder for the money.

As fast as I send DMCA's and they take them down they go right back up or show up on other sites.

The real way to win, is to get the Registrars to do something but they sit back and says its not their problem.

cwd 10-21-2011 06:09 AM

That .gif made me sick

arock10 10-21-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 18506155)
That .gif made me sick

lol says the guy pushing made gay, shemale and bisexual porno

Axzar 10-21-2011 08:52 AM

The internet has not done that to me in a while.

crockett 10-21-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18504967)
corbin fisher suing even more people as usual too

http://www.xbiz.com/news/139078

It's horrible that they sue people whom steal their content. tgp alliance used to have some nice sites, too bad they went down the road of stolen content and tube sites. :arcadefre

blackmonsters 10-21-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18506096)
sauce????????

Santorum

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Gambrinus 10-21-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18506096)
sauce????????

No idea.

will76 10-21-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18505355)
i discussed this with my lawyer who goes after torrent users and he said it's too expensive. if you went after one person who uploaded a video to a tube it could cost you $5K-$10K only to find out the IP is in a country that protects him from this kind of stuff.

the tube owners upload most of the content themselves so i'm sure they have a way of getting around that, possibly through a proxy server so it would be a huge waste of money.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...018-1lu98.html

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'The most interesting thing I found in their approach,'' Linton continued, ''was their request for IP records going back 12 months or more. This would allow them to issue one subpoena ? that covers 12 months-plus of illegal downloading and thus allow them to take action against tens or hundreds of thousands of end users at a time on an ongoing basis.''

If Linton's hunch is correct, that could spell bad news for the vast number of Australians who have downloaded or uploaded movies such as Kill The Irishman via torrent-streaming sites in the past year.
Looks like they could do 1 subpoena to get 1,000s of records from ISPs don't see why it can't be done with tube site owners who are living or hosted in the US etc.

will76 10-21-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18506118)
Not even held in check. Just makes them work a little harder for the money.

As fast as I send DMCA's and they take them down they go right back up or show up on other sites.

The real way to win, is to get the Registrars to do something but they sit back and says its not their problem.

DMCA is not what I was talking about, you never going to win or accomplish anything by having to search the entire internet every day to try to find people stealing your videos and then sending out thousands of DMCA letters everyday.

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18505569)
Outside legal time, the cost comes in when you need to file a separate lawsuit against each uploader. As I understand, you can not joinder all the uploaders because each upload and instance of uploading is different. Thus, filing fees times number of uploaders adds up quick.

But how often does that happen? In most cases the person will settle if you make them an affordable amount to pay. The ones that don't settle if it is too expensive to go after them then just skip them if you want. You don't have to get everyone. It's numbers / volume game, pick off the long hanging fruit that get scared because they don't want this to be public knowledge and that can afford to spend $500 or $1,000 to be done with it. Your only cost then is sending out letters once you subpoena them and get the list.

19teenporn 10-21-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18507855)
DMCA is not what I was talking about, you never going to win or accomplish anything by having to search the entire internet every day to try to find people stealing your videos and then sending out thousands of DMCA letters everyday.



But how often does that happen? In most cases the person will settle if you make them an affordable amount to pay. The ones that don't settle if it is too expensive to go after them then just skip them if you want. You don't have to get everyone. It's numbers / volume game, pick off the long hanging fruit that get scared because they don't want this to be public knowledge and that can afford to spend $500 or $1,000 to be done with it. Your only cost then is sending out letters once you subpoena them and get the list.

Dude, stop wasting your time. They don't want to do it. Just like that. They will keep giving you excuses.

It's a lost battle against piracy. They surrendered long time ago.

icymelon 10-21-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 18505059)
Damn, they sure mention Alexa in that article a lot... do people still put much value in those Alexa numbers?

more than PR rank

RycEric 10-21-2011 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18507855)
But how often does that happen? In most cases the person will settle if you make them an affordable amount to pay. The ones that don't settle if it is too expensive to go after them then just skip them if you want. You don't have to get everyone. It's numbers / volume game, pick off the long hanging fruit that get scared because they don't want this to be public knowledge and that can afford to spend $500 or $1,000 to be done with it. Your only cost then is sending out letters once you subpoena them and get the list.

Each uploading IP = one lawsuit on tubes. You will spend more than what you are trying to recover going after tube uploaders. Let's also remember we have ADULT INDUSTRY TOP NOTCH attorneys defending the tube sites and their hosts.

will76 10-21-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PromoterX (Post 18505679)
Holy shit... I swear I stared at that for like 5 minutes straight. :warning:warning:warning

I'm going to go full pervert and ask where the video is for that.... it's rare these days to shock me, and that GIF just did it.

i'm thinking that had to be faked. If that was really in his ass it would have been poking him in his eye.

will76 10-21-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 18508063)
Each uploading IP = one lawsuit on tubes. You will spend more than what you are trying to recover going after tube uploaders. Let's also remember we have ADULT INDUSTRY TOP NOTCH attorneys defending the tube sites and their hosts.

Still not sure why you think "threat of lawsuit and sending a letter" means they have to sue each person.

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n the US, the industry has responded with legal action - or with the threat of legal action, to be precise. As The Seattle Weekly reported in August, since the beginning of 2011 94,000 Americans have been sued for allegedly downloading porn without paying for it. But, the magazine added, ''tellingly, not a single case has ever been decided by a jury''.

The standard line of approach goes something like this: an individual who is accused of downloading porn illegally (i.e. without paying for content that normally demands a fee) receives a letter of demand from a law firm acting for the porn content's copyright holder. This letter typically suggests that if the case were to go to court, the alleged downloader could, if found guilty, face fines of up to $150,000, plus costs.

Alternatively, the letter continues, the case could be settled immediately for a small fee - generally just a few thousand dollars.

The financial risk coupled with the potential embarrassment of being exposed as a user of porn is apparently enough to convince many of the accused - and even some of those who insist upon their innocence - to settle.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...018-1lu98.html

Which attorneys in our industry are defending tube site owners? They info should be made public to everyone, if you know please share.

RycEric 10-21-2011 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 18508079)
Still not sure why you think "threat of lawsuit and sending a letter" means they have to sue each person.

Need to 'discover' the identity via due process first.


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