| stocktrader23 |
11-22-2011 07:36 AM |
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
(Post 18577415)
The problem is the definition of the word. Some here have a very different idea to what selling actually is. And why the person they are addressing is buying.
Selling to me means convincing someone that your product is good enough to buy it.
Some here think it's getting them interested enough to sign up for free and then later the girl they chat to on webcam gets the guy to buy.
Some think it's showing samples from a sponsor and then getting the surfer to the tour is selling, this isn't my definition of selling. It's getting them to the next step for someone else to take over the job of closing the sale.
Many firms use telephone canvassers to obtain qualified leads for the salesman to follow up. Are these canvassers selling or filtering and getting the prospective buyer to the next step for someone else to close?
According to Raymor, I'm saying the bank is the seller they're the billing company and do not sell. Accept to the seller or his employer. Twisting words to fit your ideas won't change reality.
Know what your job is and concentrate on it.
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You started this line of discussion because I linked you to a page that showed I linked to join for iFriends. I'm sorry Paul but I sold the customer on the website before I sent them off and my ratios were often 100+ times better than my competitors. There are some smart people here that did similar but ask around what the average affiliate ratio was on iFriends during the time I promoted them. Getting their credit card entered into a site was a sale for all intents and purposes. Not only that, I and many others have linked to join on almost everything we've promoted. I've already said that I don't share my websites in public just like most that do more than a few sales per week won't.
You asked me to prove that I linked to join, insinuating I was lying, and I proved that I did on one of the few sites I've had that are completely offline now. I will not link to others nor do I have to. You were making the point that affiliates just push traffic and argued when I told you that many don't, they actually work to convert it. My point proven.
Like I told you on ICQ, you know a lot about what you do / did. Why is it so hard for you to believe that I might know more about what I do than you? Have you converted 1:4 on a free credit card join ever? No, just live I've never shot and sold content to magazines. Difference is, I'm not telling you how you could have made twice as much money selling to magazines years after the fact and you shouldn't tell me how to promote something that I do a damn good job of promoting myself. If it were so easy to do better than me you and a million others would have done it / be doing it right now. I'm not the best, but I work hard to improve all the time.
I want to think you are trolling these days because the other option is that your mind is slipping. Why else would you be so bitter, confrontational and hardheaded about things you have never done? I told you I worked 20 hours per day in ICQ and you made a comment that you've never had to work 20 hours in a day in your life as if it would prove your worth to me. I like working 20 hours per day sometimes, this was my hobby and I loved every minute of it. Instead of going to the movies or getting drunk with friends I sat around trying to see how much money I could squeeze out of 1000 raw visits to my website and did it a lot better than most. I am not ashamed of that.
I would tell you to grow up but we're obviously past that point. I know you are probably old enough that you don't care to learn another thing but why even get in the discussion if you aren't open to increasing your knowledge and understanding of the topic?
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