Time will tell for sure. What I'm worried about is their launch strategy of promoting it as the place to put adult to keep it away from those not interested. If they have enough money to pay off the right people then mandatory .xxx is a real possibility.

I agree, that would be bad news for everyone in adult :Oh crap

It would be interesting if a company with deep pockets started their own TLD like .kids as a countermeasure.

Reality is that if you let people snap up premium domains for registration fee, most of the registrants will only want to flip them, and this will happen many times until a domain is finally developed.... if it ever is.

.xxx was set up to make money for its owners not the general public and so they obviously want more premium domain sale proceeds to end up in their pocket than in speculators' pockets.

It is understandable, but there is a line between good business and greed. We already know which side of the line they are, we are just yet to see how far they have positioned themsleves from that line. :2 cents:

As a father of two...I can tell you right now that a .kids would be fine for young kids. But no teenager (12 and up) would ever be caught dead in it. It would be as big a "ghetto" as .xxx will be when it gets blocked in most countries around the world.

This is precisely what we DON'T want to see happen. The best domains should be overflowing with new ideas and exciting content.

Yes, some of those domains will go to auction, but...what if you're the guy with the best idea for a 3 or 4 letter domain related to your niche? If your your idea is new, it's innovative, it's intriguing, it's compelling...and you have the ability to make it happen, then we really want to talk to you.

And for the record, I'd like to repeat that we have neither desire nor intention to see .XXX become a requirement, anywhere.

For this is precisely what they did. They have not sold a single premium name yet. They were all given away and if you cant see this you are a nimbleton. Did you read what Shap said the sales pitch was?

perhaps you are the "nimbleton" because a number of premium domains have been sold to various people totaling millions of dollars. ie frank shilling, gay.xxx, shemale.xxx, etc/.

Must have missed it, could you post the thread please or give me a summary

:1orglaugh Currently Sober beat you to it.

I don't see where they said "we will credit back your registration fee"

.XXX is built on a model of extortion. No matter what you do, they're going to leach the greatest amount of money out of as many people and corporations as they can.

Their whole business model is a short-term, extort funds setup. They have no plans on hanging around long-term. Dot XXX is designed to grab maximum amounts of money in minimal amounts of time.

Understandable, as it'll be less releveant than dot.info in two years.

I'm just waiting on coke.xxx, reebok.xxx, generalmotors.xxx to rear their laughable heads.

I don't trust .xxx

yet another thread proving the whole xxx thing is the biggest scam going, absolute fuckers

Was talking to someone from here on ICQ, this exact same thing happened to them. Bought a somewhat prominent name 4char .xxx name, not even anything super amazing, similar to "lesbian.xxx" in which the plural form is the better one. Someone from .XXX even ICQ'd them sparking up a convo and telling them it was a great buy and they're lucky to get it. Later on they got an email saying "sorry", you can't have it. What a joke.

QFT

8char

.xxx traffic will make .cn traffic look valuable.

Weak sauce.

Yeah looks like most of our tube names are taken and not by us.

We are in cahoots...

Directnic has since talked to me about this and are taking 100% of the blame. Apparently Name.com was able to pull the trigger faster than they were, resulting in my loss of the domains. I don't see how that is possible considering how fast I did it, but it is what it is. I also spoke to Bot who told me the same thing Directnic did.

My only issue really is that I wish we would have been told immediately so we could have secured other names instead while they were still available. There are some still open but not really something I feel strongly about.

You would think by now the registrars would be able to work stuff like this out, but I guess not. Today it seems many more people are having the same issue. :Oh crap

Ok the thread is about peeps attemping to BUY .xxx domains.

Yes or no ?

Lots of other peeps chiming in about their experiences trying to BUY .xxx domains.

Yes or no ?

And buy the way none of the peeps talking about their experiences trying to BUY .xxx domains in this thread are suggesting it is a defensive purchase to protect their dot coms. They are all talking about how they thought they had picked up a great domain !

So on reflection, what do you think ? Is the thread broadly about peeps and their experiences BUYING .xxx domains with the odd poster triumphantly saying he has not bought any so he is not concerned.

Yes or no ?

In my opinion you shouldn't be able to force any domains to be auctioned. It's a new TLD and should be first come, first serve. It would be different if you were holding a domain name auction for expired names or names which have otherwise already been registered but that's not the case. In my opinion I believe you are just trying to milk as much money as you can from these names.

You say that you will possibly let domains go if someone approaches you with an idea but in my opinion that's improper and you are overstepping your role. You shouldn't be doing this. I'm also skeptical that you won't either steal the idea or turn it into an opportunity to try to extort the company and collect as much as is possible. The end effect being that the domain is really reserved for a company with deep pockets who is willing to pay as opposed to the savvy little guy who sees opportunity and wants the domain for (the already excessive) normal domain cost.

I believe ICANN and government officials should be investigating your actions and I hope their are records being kept so that the information will be available to them.

The difference is that you are an adult only TLD so 1k in registrations can go a lot further than 5k registration in mainstream. You should also be required to release a list of these names. Personally I've seen information which suggests the number might be much higher than 1,000.

There is a huge issue with accountability here and all the "glitches" seem rather convenient for you. How do we know you guys aren't taking the names people register when you think they are too good to let go for around $100 and then coming up with some sort of excuse? I've seen evidence which suggests ICM is watching individual registrations so this seems plausible.

NO. It is about one person buying .XXX and their awful experience with it:2 cents:

Here is your original statement-
Here are just a few of the posts in this thread-

So in trying to say that everyone, or even everyone in this thread is buying .XXX domains, you are full of shit.

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Now what is the 4 character plurar form of lesbian.xxx ? dyke.xxx ?

That is wrong..

He actually has a point. DWB has always been one of the loudest opponents of .xxx and yet he by his own admission registered a few and you don't need to be a genius to know he is not the only one with a different public and private stance.

I can think of a number of good reasons to buy .xxx domains.... even if you are against the principle of it.

He has no point. DWB bought some .XXX domains and had a bad experience.

You lie down with dogs you get up with fleas.

At least 50% of the people posting in this thread want nothing to do with .XXX, thus NewNick's statement that "everyone is registering .XXX domains" is bullshit.

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Without a pro or anti .xxx stance, in all fairness, it was in the end a registrar being unable to grab the domain faster than another registrar and wasn't ICM's fault. This doesn't mean there aren't valid pro and cons against .xxx, just that in this case, it turned out to be the registrar.

I strongly oppose .XXX. However, I don't want to be without a good seat should the music ever stop playing.

It's not about public or private stance, I've openly admitted to buying them. I openly opposed them (and still do) until they became a reality, but now I'm faced with the reality of what may be a very important business decision. I wish they didn't exist, but now they do.

Most people oppose paying taxes, but they do anyway. The world doesn't revolve around my wants, needs and wishes, unfortunately.



No point. No agenda. Just sharing what happened.

Everybody who has an online porn biz that's doing fine and has a future, has bought xxx domains, of course. You fuckers should be more concerned fighting piracy. ICM isn't stealing anything from you. The pirates are having a laugh at you; "look how these dumb fucks are arguing with each other about xxx domains while we continue stealing and selling their content from our .com domains!"

We're actually looking into piracy protection solutions that could be deployed across all .xxx domains.

You haven't been here long. While it's true that a lot of people with a successful business are buying .xxx even while blasting it online many are so hardheaded that they would go out of business before having one. It's happened before with other things. :1orglaugh

The solution is simple; make a form on your site on which people can report piracy through an xxx domain, the next step is ICM demanding proof of owned copyrights from the domain holder. Give them 7 days, then shut down the domain. Proof can consist of contracts between producer and domain holder, and/or model releases and/or video footage that has been edited out of the published videos. For example if someone steals my video then I'll be able to show you the shots in which you see me directing the models and curse the shit out of them when they do something wrong. The site that stole my video can't show you any of that, because they don't have it. Same goes for photo series, only the photographer can show you the take outs, the site that stole the photo series can't.

If you keep piracy from xxx domains like that, then xxx will be used by content producers and distributors and .com can have all the crap and stolen content being recycled over and over again. After a while the public will be aware of that, and those who are willing to pay for recently produced quality content will look on xxx domains and those who can't afford paying for porn or are suffering from stealing fetish will look on .com domains.

In other words; the money will go to xxx domains. Compare it to satellite TV... you now have hundreds of free "porn" channels showing ugly fat porn models with telephones and phone numbers crawling through the screen. Picture quality is so poor that it hurts your eyes and they can't even get the background music to play right without any distortion. Then you also have the pay channels. They're expensive, but the models are gorgeous and quality is good. There will always be people paying for the pay channels and people refusing to pay for anything or just not being able to pay for anything, and watch the free channels.

If you want to make xxx a quality thing... keep off the piracy. The only people making money from piracy are the pirates and they don't use that money for producing new content, they'll stick the money in their pockets. So piracy kills quality. If you keep off the piracy, the money will go to the actual content producers and they'll use that money for producing new, better, hotter, crazier content.

I've been in the porn biz for 20 years now and I keep getting amazed about the conservatism of most people in this biz. I blame it on stupidity and apathy and the lack of being able (and having the courage) to think for themselves. They disapprove anything new and strange, then once the new thing is taking off they start scratching their heads and when the new thing starts to grow big, they want to join it, and if they can't join it, they'll try to copy it. Most people in this biz are trying to copy others. So the ones who follow their own road buy xxx domains now and get spit on for that by the rest, but in a few months from now everybody will follow, and buy xxx domains as well.

But like I said, everybody in the porn biz should stop worrying about xxx domains and worry about the real problem; the content thieves.

This is bullshit. Let's see how you feel when some asshole comes to you and threatens you that if you don't buy your own domain (in .xxx) for x amount of dollars, they are going to sell it to a company in South Korea. Well, already happened to me, thanks.

Many very large Webmasters and Companies are already NOT supporting .xxx and I'm sure we're going to see plenty more to follow. .xxx is just going to be a ghetto for newbie webmasters and spammers that won't be able to get traffic because all the linklists and directories won't be listing .xxx domains. It's already happening.

You also got to love how they keep saying they are going to monitor domains, keep us free from piracy, and how they want to know 'what we are doing' with premium domains. I get it ... so if you want to register dick.xxx or sex.xxx they want to know what you're doing with it. If you want to register boykakke.xxx or straightrentboys.xxx (which infringes on an adult webmaster's copyrights) they don't give a flying fuck. How nice of them.

If I'm buying a domain name, it's none of the registrar's fucking business what I'm going to do with it as long as I'm not breaking copyright law or doing something illegal on it.

Go ahead and put your trust into .xxx. For all we know they could be devising ways right now on how to get the US government to force all adult sites onto .xxx and under their control. If that's the kind of environment you want to work in, go for it! I'm already making my 'Plan B' and believe me it's not going to be related to the porn business or working for Stuart Lawley.

If you play ICM's game, you shouldn't complain.

Your words and your actions say different things. If you really oppose .XXX --you wouldn't be buying any.

Your analogy with taxes is poor. It is a crime not to pay taxes.

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