I'm voting for Ron Paul, because he'll run in circles!

It's only about who the Republican party really thinks has a remote chance of beating Obama. Unfortunately for the Republicans, Romney is the only realistic candidate with any chance of mounting a threat to Obama's presidency. He will, of course, not win. The rest of the field are clown shoes looking to increase their net worth through donations, book sales and speaking engagements. Look at each one's liabilities and tell me that you really think any single one of them excepting Romney has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the nomination. Obama's re-election team will eat their fucking lunch chewing them up and spitting them out with all the goofy baggage each one of them is carrying around.

What a hoot! Jon Hunt is the only one of the bunch worth a shit and he's a non-starter.

i like Oba

yes actually, I am 100% positive that if Ron paul were to debate Obama head to head he would obliterate him, newsletters and all. GFY posts do not allow me enough characters to list all of Obamas broken promises. Issues that Ron Paul is very solid on. If you dont know what that list of broken promises are than you simply have not been paying attention.

yes, I agree his VP pick will be crucial

I'm pretty sure I've been paying attention. If you are going to talk about broken promises from Obama, surely you can list 10 of them. I'd really be interested in exactly how you determine that he promised something and then did not deliver. Do you know something all of the Republican presidential candidates don't know? Because all they have had to pummel Obama with is the lame birther thing. I'm sure that they would be all over the broken promise thing if they knew.

Ron Paul has some good ideas but he has always positioned himself as a fringe player. These guys do not get elected, they generally spoil an election and help the most incompetent asshat get elected. You are wrong if you think Paul could get elected and get any more out of congress or the house than Obama.

Republican = Romney | Democrat = Obama | Obama Wins. The End. This is how it will play out. The rest is just theatrics.

Ron Paul 2012

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I just ate. God you are hilarious.

Paul outdebating Obama? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The optics alone are completely in Obamas favor before we even get to substance.

Obamas broken promises? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Are you serious? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i'm sure in a debate getting rid of the environmental protection agency, occupational health and safety and the department of education would go over with middle of the road families and voters.

Trust me, they are.

We have a huge underclass that only cares about gimme, gimme, gimme. They are the most selfish people you will ever meet.

Have you been drinking PowerThirst? You are winning at irony.

What is Pauls lineage? And what is Obomas? Series question... not the black, white thing, but a deep look at where they both come from?

You'll never get a rational answer to that question from the kind of person who says such things. The point is to attack, to poison the wells, not to make sense.

Now, I happen to despise obama, but not for the ficticious reasons these silly teabaggers do. (or rmore accurately, the reasons they have been told to say by their masters. They usually don't have an actual opinion they can articulate.)

As I have said, I would vote for Paul. It would be a revenge vote, because a Paul presidency would be a catastrophe for the country, but I would be very very happy to be able to make it.

No matter what happens, I will not vote for obama.

It is however a silly poll - you republicans dont have the balls to nominate Paul. Your fate has already been decided by your masters, just as the dem's fate was decided by theirs.

No one is stopping you from doing a write-in.

That is fine. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons to dislike Obama or GWB for that matter. It's the height that hyperbole has reached against them that is patently ridiculous. Why make shit up when there are real, substantive things one can disagree on? Probably because they aren't emotional enough.

I'll see who the libertarians and greens put up and probably vote for one of them as a presidential candidate.

The republicans have no ideas and no plans for the future, a vote for them is a wasted vote policy wise, and a dead end economically. Except for Paul, you have to be trapped in your lower brain to think voting republican makes sense. And Paul makes sense only as a revenge vote.

Too bad obama betrayed us all. But he did, and there is no getting around it.

How has the President betrayed us/you?

Revenge voting is how you get the real fuck bubbles in office. So that works great doesn't it. Your statement about Obama betraying all of us has no basis in fact and you cannot substantiate it at all. The Republicans control the house and congress. They stated that their goal is to get Obama out of office at the expense of governing this country. There is your betrayal. You people don't like Obama, that's fine, but you need real facts not the vague crap you've been spouting.

serious question... are you on crack?

On Paul's running mate, an outside shot but someone I think Paul is actually open to would be Dennis Kucinich. Would be pretty interesting.

Seriously... I love pecan pie

100 polls :Graucho

Me?

He appointed geithner to treasury, and in every other way stacked his cabinet with the people who caused the collapse, and who had no intention of doing anything to craft a new economy to replace the old one which failed, and is still failing, taking us into a deadend path into the future. They continued to strip the real wealth out of the country.

Every action he took was basically a continuation of republican policy that had already proved that it could not cope with the complexities of a global economy. As examples, the health care bill (a badly designed copy of a republican plan), the stimulus, the continued bailouts, the free pass given to wall street.

His stimulus was too small, poorly planned, poorly administered, and doomed to failure because it stimulated the wrong parts of the economy.

He took no action on things which might have made a difference, such as a push for science and technology infrastructure, education, and development.

He said he would be different - what he did was more of the same. He outdid Bush in every significant way.

He said he would leave the states to administer their own medical marijuana programs - the one breath of fresh air and freedom in four years of suffering - but is letting the IRS attack them thru the back door and quietly turning the dogs in Justice on them as a sop to the right.

He kept us in the pointless wars - until it's time for the election, then he pulls out of one.

I could go on and on - but most of what I would say I'd have to explain, because it's outside the dialectic of partisanship.

Like clinton, he's been a republican in everything but name. That's not what we need now, nostalgia and timidity, and being a pet of wall street, won't help us in a global economy. It only helps wall street, and they already have one foot out of the country.

And it feeds right into exactly the types of silly claims the right wing is expert at crafting. Obama was the right's wet dream - a white republican president in blackface, the perfect target for hate and prejudice, while actually doing every single thing the republicans wanted, and never once standing up to them like the leader we needed.

Like the idiot republicans say - hows that hopey/changey thing working out?

Presumably you are talking about teabagger candidates - thats the only example of revenge voting I can think of recently that might fit your description.

But yes, the point is to put real fuck bubbles in office. To initate shocks that have a chance of waking people out of the fever dream. Wake them before it's too late.

I agree, the republicans are vicious idiots without a plan, a clue, or balls; they are feeble minded lap doggies barking at the instruction of wall street. And they are betraying the country because they hate having a hahahahahaha republican in blackface in the white house.

Most of the republicans and teabaggers here at gfy couldn't have an original idea to save their lives - and they are too weak to see that all they do is parrot Murdoch propaganda.

Over the past four years I have described obama's betrayals many times, I'm tired of writing it out, but I did a few lines in another post here.

You are an asshole.

Some of you still don't get it.
Left/Right. Democrat/Republican, Two wings. Same stupid fucking bird....

Was Bush a failure in my view. Damn right he was.
Is Obama a failure in my view. Damn right he is.

They both are puppets of the guys that really run the show.
Is Obama what the Repubicans wanted?
No, I don't think so. McCain was who they wanted. But what difference is there between McCain and Obama besides skin color. They are both liberal progressives.

This coming election is going to be Romney vs. Obama if the media gets their way.
Which one you vote for doesn't really fucking matter.
They are both puppets of Wall Street bankers.

We are FUCKED!
Vote for someone that does NOT have their head stuck in the Wall Street slop trough.
Unless you have a personal vendetta against this country.
And in that case. you're welcome to GTFO

Maybe so, but I will take being an asshole over being a blind dumb fuck like yourself any day.

Are you still in the 14th grade?

You need to get yourself some knowledge so you do not continue to embarrass yourself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/op...-campaign.html

You might not be able to understand this editorial so you might want to get a grown-up to help you with the big words.

Ummmm... let me get this straight. I said:

"Maybe so, but I will take being an asshole over being a blind dumb fuck like yourself any day."

And your reply was:

Boy, what a great retort. You sure put me in my place and embarrassed me. Clearly you are intellectually superior to me. I am humbled in your presence and stand corrected.

Oh, by the way dumbass- there is no such thing as "14th grade" imbecile.

Thank you for clarifying why you are an Obama supporter.

Holy... fucking... Christ.

Put down the crack pipe bro. Seriously-

Don't have the balls or are smart enough to know HE WOULD NEVER WIN?

I suspect the latter.

Obama only betrayed those that believed and voted for him. He did not betray me.

I support Ron Paul and his racist newsletters.

That would be fucking awesome.

http://www.sfmusicbox.com/wp-content...-munchkins.jpg

My first line, about not having the balls, is essentially a childish, tho rhetorically effective, taunt. I know the republicans won't nominate Paul, making this whole discussion essentially pointless and moot. But taunting them to nominate him has it's satisfactions.

And if they did nominate him it would, you must admit, be hilarious.

By definition obama only betrayed those who voted for him. He did everything the republicans wanted, so by definition he did not betray republican voters.

He did betray people like me.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What has he specifically done that the Republicans wanted?

kept open gitmo, extended tax cuts, extended patriot act, caved on tax hikes for rich, let wall street banks off the hook, caved on elizabeth warren appointment.

Yup, and now he's onboard with WWIII... ummm, I mean, war with Iran, for no good fucking reason whatsoever.

Let's see how much more he can disappoint his progressive base during his second term...

Democrats also voted in favor of the things that you have mentioned...he had little choice in the matters.

what joshgirls said is good enough an answer I suppose - my immediate thought was that it's easier to name the few things he did the republicans did not want, like the personal banking and credit card regulations passed the first year. They were riddled with loopholes, and the regulations were written by wall street insiders, but, it was not republican.

If you have some favorite event or decision that you'd like to offer as a refutation of obama's essential republicanism, state it, I'll look at it.

My judgement is not based on one thing but on an ongoing series of capitulations. I can't think of a single time he stood on principle. Everything is political expediency and doing what wall street told him to do.

But, I am not a centrist, or a moderate, or a center-right safety-netter like the majority of democrat voters, I am a radical progressive with specific interests in science, technology, energy, futurism, and competing in the global economy.

For my interests, obama was a disaster, and I hate the fucker. No matter what happens, I will never put a mark next to his name on a ballot again. Nor will I give money to the democratic party, and I give a lot of money to political causes. Fuck them.

He had the choice of leading. He had the choice of standing up and saying - this is wrong.

He has been a follower, a pet of wall street and the corporations and monied families that are the power behind the democratic party, who are in no meaningful way better than the monied powers behind the republican party.

What you offer as a defense is actually a condemnation.

It means the dems are exactly the weak girly pussy party the republicans claim. They use that frame in their rhetoric very effectively.

We didn't need or want a pussy president. Especially following bush, whom the republican idiots thought was a tough guy, but who was actually a gigantic pussy; all hat, no cattle.

I think you need to repeat the 14th grade my friend :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh