Oron annual review pffftt!

also on their affiliate signup page, instead of public join page

Go get them!

They KNOW everything uploaded to their servers is illegal and they're disgustingly blatant about it. You can't be more blatant than OWNING illegal file sharing forums, (cough, Oron buying pornbb and who knows what else).

My guess is, they are going to review where an affiliate's traffic comes from and terminate any accounts that derive traffic from mainstream movie and music sites.

I think they honestly feel adult copyright holders are spineless. :1orglaugh Hell, they might be right if they end up being one of the few standing after all the other highly incentivized file sharing networks fall.

Maybe MU will raise from the dead and only do adult once they see no one in the adult industry is going to stop them.

If a site existed that contained full length mainstream movies and music, (just like adult tube sites do on a massive scale) how long do you think they would get away with it?

Other than the fact one is copyrighted adult material and the other is the ladder, there would only be one difference. One will stay online indefinitely while the other would be shutdown within 6 months.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

man, once there was wild west and you can shoot anyone there. i mean, they bought pornbb but they didnt knew that problems like megaupload have not may come. times are changing, and i believe and i hope that now when adult business see that fighting piracy is not impossible, someone will take the action too and now or later problems will come to the rest. lets hope, and have luck everyone :)

take em out!

http://i.imgur.com/uDYLp.jpg

I hope you're right man. Other than taking 1 minute to send a DMCA complaint I haven't seen it though.

Hell, Epassporte and Chris Mallick stole 10s of millions from people in this industry and the guy is just taking vacations in his private jet laughing. No one did anything other than post a website with a couple pictures and last known address.

The size of some of these porn forums is insane...

Kitty-kats.com - Threads: 209,068 Posts: 1,226,527 Members: 32,022

Pornbb.org - Our users have made a total of 7887324 posts.
In total there are 4278 users online. Most users ever online is 12584 on August 28, 2011

Porn-w.org - Our users have posted a total of 5478268 articles. We have 183712 registered users. In total there are 1588 users online

How would you want to take down Oron? By contacting PayPal?
That won't get you too far. PayPal have profited from Oron for years.

Anyone want to take down PayPal? :))

Anyone doing an investigation on Oron and the other file-sharing services? Where to post information?

Oron ONLY allows porn. Upload warez and your account will be banned. Oron needs to be taken down!

AFAIK. The owners of oron are smart enough. They ban all affiliates who uploads Hollywood movies, because they don't want to fuck with a big boys. However they don't ban those who upload porn only. They know - nobody will sue their asses for it. In two words: Hollywood content and warez are forbidden, porn is ok. This simple policy makes them almost invulnerable.

Yup, contacting paypal is not a good way to go about it. You would have to threaten Paypal with something significant for them to give up $100s of thousands in processing fees.

Paypal actually suspended processing with Oron for a couple weeks, my bet is that Oron made some sort of deal, (maybe higher processing fees) to get their account back.

To take Oron down, you would need to gather evidence of them directly profiting off copyrighted works hosted on their server. I'm sure there is PLENTY of evidence of them acquiring pornbb, not to mention, I have my suspicions that they're buying off major uploaders to use their service, (anyone can contact me via ICQ for that information).

I think there is more than enough information to take them down, that's not the problem. Who is willing to spend a couple hours a day gathering evidence and contacting local district attorneys? Who is willing to spend the money to hire attorneys and go after them?

Only a couple major producers. Which in the grand scheme of things, is a risk these adult file sharing networks and tube sites are willing to take. They pretty much took over an entire industry, and less than 1% of content owners actually stood up and did something beyond sending a fucking DMCA complaint. Maybe they make $100 million and pay a $3-4 million settlement to one or two content producers that actually do something about it.

People in this industry are weak in general. Maybe it's because they're afraid to work with the law or maybe it's because they're just plain fucking lazy.

The whole epass situation is classic example of it. How many people who got ripped off do you think filled out a simple IC3 complaint form and followed up on it? My guess is significantly less than 1%. How many people do you think contacted the local district attorney where Chris Mallick resides? Probably no one.

Instead they spent more time posting pictures of the guy's fucking family on GFY. As if that's constructive or going to produce any positive results.

I have it on good authority that a Paypal representative and their legal team provided evidence to the Grand Jury about MegaUpload long before indictment was unsealed and the raids occurred. The conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the prosecutors wanted Paypal to act business as usual so as not to jeopardize any action pending.

If there is any chance that Oron is currently being investigated then Paypal may continue processing so as not to tip them off about pending prosecutions.

I would suggest every report to Paypal about Oron is beneficial, however don't be surprised if action isn't immediate should other things be afoot to deal with them.

That was my point! :thumbsup

Which basically means = stealing from adult content copyright holders = a risk worth taking.

That's true, Paypal will undoubtedly cooperate with any ongoing investigation while acting as if it's business as usual. Who knows if there is any investigation being led against Oron though. Since they deal significantly with adult, my guess is no. :1orglaugh

I just don't understand one thing however... They openly host porn, including illegal one (e.g. there are many scat and bestiality pirate boards where all the content is stored at oron). Does PayPal and VISA/MC consider it's normal to process scat and bestiality content (doesn't matter copyright or stolen)?

Did somebody try to get an answer from PayPal and VISA/MC on that? Are they now ok with such sort of content?

Quite likely there isn't.

I can't imagine prosecutors would want to handle more than one big prosecution like this at a time. I think MegaUpload is very much a test case.

However I was just pointing out one possibility why action may seem to be slow.

Well the whole file locker case is in the spotlight now. Big companies especially don't like bad publicity that could possibly hurt their image. So now is the time to put on pressure.

It's a technicality that all these file-sharing networks survive on. They aren't selling access to pornography, they're selling access to a service, the content uploaded using said service is the responsibility of the uploader. All Paypal cares about is what's outlined in the terms of use for the service they're selling.

It's all just a huge joke, if you carefully read their TOS they don't allow adult content at all. :1orglaugh

Paypal is in business with the theives, not legitimate adult sites. They will do nothing until they get pressure from the government. I have wasted too much time already thinking they would do the right thing.

The Russians' rang :1orglaugh

your content is probably on pornbb forum as well

which is owned and operated by oron

Funny comment about oron in dp thread:
"So much for the 'impervious to prosecution due to to Russian servers and 99% porn content" therory."

bump... ...

Isn't there power in numbers. Who is actually going after them now? Can any of us jump on the bandwagon?

Read this if you wanna have a laugh:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...83759&page=226

Affiliates of Oron whining that they don't have an income anymore. Credits go to allniche on another forum for finding this gem :thumbsup

There's even more funny stuff in that forum, as there are crying ex-FileSonic affiliates aswell, because they closed without payments :1orglaugh

Simples. just start spreading rumours that the review is actually a FBI cover and the uploaders are being monitored for future stings. also start rumours about oron about to do a shut and run with the money while the "accounts are being checked"! :1orglaugh

I sent an email to Paypal saying "you don't allow adult content producers to use paypal for commerce, but you allow adult content THIEVES to use Paypal!!". Shame on you paypal...

Maybe there is a hungry District Attorney somewhere....

Oron sounds spacial

looks like oron has been ditched for some other file lockers.

There is if enough content owners step up. Trust me, get 500 calls from content owners claiming theft SOMEONE will DO SOMETHING.

Just like if the DA where Chris Mallick resides got hundreds of calls and hundreds of IC3 forums were filed..Not the case though, we are all pushovers. ha ha.

Get a bunch of forum members to send anonymous emails to paypal, they'll end up in a junk folder somewhere. Complete waste of time.

go kitty kats is dead now

This^^

Oron are reviewing affiliate accounts one by one at the moment. the first approvals seem to show uploaders of warez and movies are banned but those with terabytes of porn aren't :disgust

Doing my part to help :)

from the porn pirate forums seems like oron has ran off with the uploaders money.

Originally Posted by arfarsh
Megaupload - Closed.
FileServe - Stopped filesharing. You can only download your own files. Deleting multiple files. Banning Premium accounts. Closed Affiliate Program.
FileJungle - Deleting files. Owned by Fileserve (same as above). Testing USA IP addresses blocking.
FileSonic - Stopped filesharing. You can only download your own files. Closed Affiliate Program. Changed server location Jan 22, 2012. Taken down it's Facebook page Now using Digital fingerprinting. Files are being deleted as soon as uploaded (as Hotfile did).
UploadStation - Owned by Fileserve (same as above). Testing USA IP addresses blocking.
VideoBB - Closed Affiliate Program.
Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
FilePost - Started suspending accounts with infringing material (as Hotfile did)
Videoz - Closed Affiliate Program.
4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI
Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrent everything.
EnterUpload - Down (Redirect)

That's why I'm surprised the other sites are shitting themselves so badly; it's probably the 'safest' time for them, because until MU is concluded I doubt the Feds could or would do anything with any other site. Especially as, AFAIK, the MU bust relied on an informant within MU supplying inside information, which is unlikely to be the case at any other site. It's not like the Feds had nothing better to do the other day and decided to start fucking up a file locker every week.

The MU case will drag on for years. Until that time I would say there's no chance that another file locker would even get investigated, let alone busted, unless they did something egregiously stupid.

That one's probably true anyway. I think the lockers who have made a boatload of money will take all this as a sign to get out. Other sites might hope to mop up the traffic from dead sites and will get back to business as usual in a month or two, and there must surely people looking at what Kim Dotcom made, rather than his potential jail time, and thinking it's worth a shot to start their own file share site.

Wow. This really does paint a picture of what`s going on with the file sharing business model.

I've seen it reported that Oron is re-activating accounts after reviewing them, perhaps ones that haven't received DMCA's. So now would be the time to flood all the forum posts with DMCA's.

Investigation and prosecution are the two different things. FBI or whatever other agency team that conducted investigation is now finished and their only time spent on megaupload case from now on will be to testify in court, which is not much in terms of man-hours.

Their main resources are obviously free now and they must be looking for the next "victim". Filehosts closing left and right and running into the sunset are obviously doing the right thing to save themselves from 50 years long vacations at warm and hospitable Uncle Sam Inn. Agencies are unlikely to spend tax dollars to beat the dead horse that sites like fileserve or filesonic are now, they're aiming their guns at whatever stupid fuck didn't get the message yet.

100% agreed. Many programs need to be doing a detailed sweep of pornbb and others like it right now and send out a whack of DMCA notices to Oron. Sites like Met Art, Twisty, FTV, ATK get hammered on that forum.

Yes, a good use of time where you can truly make a dent in the whack-a-mole game.


A good serps cleaning would help at this time too.

Whack that mole!

"More good news for some of us. I read on another heavily populated forum that people with a few DCMA takedown notices were being approved and their affiliate plan was restored. So, I think you're fine unless you are someone sharing Warez, in which case you may be screwed"

From a porn uploader on wjunction.

That's all it is, I am just surprised more sites don't do a daily scan of those popular boards to dent it. Some programs are getting abused.

oron is bye, closing accounts and uploaders are moving to extabit now. good job and thank you music and movie industry!

:1orglaughNice:thumbsup

Fuck them...

Bump for ya-