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It should be higher than 17% if it's a table of nigs.
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I think the system works fine, and I've never had any issue paying a tip. Even when service is slow, having come from restaurant background, I realize that there are circumstances beyond the server's control, and am more forgiving for certain things, while harsher on others. As long as the server is doing their best to rectify the situation, I can wait. But if the server is apathetic, or generally disinterested in performing their job, I lower the tip to around 10%. Quite often those servers are paying out door staff, kitchen, bus boys etc a specific portion of their sales, so stiffing them actually costs them money to serve you. As for the Prima Donna issue, there's nothing wrong with pride in your job. If you are good at what you do, and can back it up. That's something that I think the Euro Waiters have over the ones in North America, over there it's a profession. Over here, its something to do while waiting for your other career to take off, or while you are in school. |
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And i hear that excuse a lot btw. Waiters crying about it. Well then find another job where you do get paid. Also most places i've been to in the US the peopld working there must be making 5 times what they do here getting paid per hour. Because of the huge amounts of tips they are getting. |
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Wow that really sucks! You should know how much you have before you spend it
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thats a funny one
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Waiters are usually kids that don't care or middle-aged sort of people that are bitter. That is not a service I'm paying a premium for. Be a good waiter and take care of your tables and I'm sure you can make decent money. I know plenty of good waiters that do it A tip is not entitled. I don't care what your base wage is. Waiting is essentially a commission job. Do good at your job, get paid more money. |
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Here, educate yourself: http://www.itipping.com/tip-guide-restaurant.htm |
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However, 15% of nothing (because no customers are coming in) is not very much money. |
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I'm there to eat and not to feel sorry for you and pay your bills.
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This discussion has been had many times on here before. It really needs to change from the top down, or it wont change at all. You try to say no mandatory tipping in 2012 and you get the argument that it's their income, they pay taxes on it, and good waiters make more money on tips than they would if you paid them normally at $10 an hour. All true enough.
So you change it from the top. Pass laws, reform the industry, take the risks that you can get by like other countries where there is no tipping and actually fast service. Heck, just pay minimum wage PLUS tips but knock off the "entitled to a tip" attitude and thats cool with me. If it's a big table, good! You got more business! Call in a extra waiter to work. But if my steak is +17% mandatory and the guy eating alone can leave $1 in tips should not be legal. And btw, if a waiter WANTS to choose a $2 base plus tips then let them, but dont force the tip to be mandatory for petes sake. WORK harder and EARN that big payroll you gave up the minimum wage for. Dont be a potato and complain that you deserve it because there was a big table compared to normal. EARN it. |
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Wow you get bad service everytime you go to a restaurant? What pisses me off is the cheap bastards that don't tip the right way when they get good service. If you get bad service; then call a manager and get a different waiter. |
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Well, that's why the entire system should be overhauled, haha. Instead of forcing waiters to disciminate about who is tonights paycheck coming from, they should be PAID a fair wage to begin with. Then they wont give a shit what table calls them over.
It's just tough shit if you are assigned a table that has 12 people sitting around it. Totally tough crap. If you want to get 15%, then just do the job, lol. If you can put 17% mandatory, then do it for ALL tables. And dont call it a tip because it's not a tip. I'm super simple to please on this shit. It's not a tip if you're forcing me to pay it. If I'm giving it to you when I do NOT have to, tada! It's a tip. |
i got a tip for ya. go fuckyourself
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I normally tip 16.2%
How did I come up with that number? Simple. Sales tax here is 8.1% so I just double that to figure the tip to keep things simple. Most of the restaurants I go to are my favorites, and they got to be my favorites because of good food and service so I don't mind tipping them a little over the standard 15% |
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Now you see if this was typical diner, just that would constitute good service and automatic 15%. Its just custom! American custom. What you canadians or euros or ghetto citizens do is your own biz. But if you come here to the US, please observe our customs. Go fuck around with hookers in your red light district of Amsterdam and tell them you didn't like service and you're not going to tip. |
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"custom" can kiss my ass :) If someone has a shit poor attitude then I'll pay the price for the food and make them dance to earn 5% or they can eat cat food.
Again, call it a surcharge, call it a mandatory wait staff customer payout, but it's NOT a "tip" and it's NOT a "gratuity". Simple. Change the damn name of it and stop pretending it's correct to have a thing called a "mandatory tip", because it isn't. |
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Regarding refills: here in the Netherlands we don't do refills. It sucks if you're not used to it and you expect one. But, to use your own argument: if you don't like it, don't come over :winkwink: |
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Here in Russia I pay about 20% tips if I like the service very much - the waiter girls looked cool and they were very kind, quick and obliging. Otherwise I can give them nothing or even get their manager to bring me some extra food/drinks because there was something I didn't like.
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