Reminds me about a hotel stay in Dubai. My Chamber maid knocked on the door after I checked in. Over there maids are guys. He demanded a tip up front because he would not be on duty the day I check out. I told him I might leave a tip when I check out, but he wanted it, now. He got more aggressive. Hahaha.

You are right. I do work in the service industry, of sorts. Sometimes I get burned, sometimes I make a killing. If I went into every situation thinking that I was going to get burned, I would get burned a hell of a lot more than I do right now.

I have plenty of examples where I have bent over backwards to help out affiliates, building them custom tools and landing pages and got nothing in return. No traffic at all. Other situations where I did the same bending over backwards and the affiliate turned into a whale that stayed with me for years. Sometimes you score, sometimes you get screwed.

That's what the service business is. It's good for some people, some it's not. It sounds like it's not for you.

Hang on...you keep screaming that paying a 15% tip is normal and people who don't are stupid.

But then you say: "Oh, I don't want to pay a $1 tip on a $7 beer", which is about 15%.

So what is it. Pay tip or pay no tip? I mean, I completely agree with you that it's rediculous to pay a tip on a beer but now you're just being inconsistent.

Also...saying you don't want to tip on a beer because the ABV is low is LUDICROUS. Get a different beer. Since when is the ABV relevant to how much you tip? :1orglaugh

I tip extremely well in bars and I get remembered with great service. It also translates into free shots and free beers so a $1 tip on a $7 beer doesn't seem so bad after all.

I don't think it can change from the bottom up because of the word "tips". It's used because there's a tax procedure for tips. You change it to something more accurate and unobjectionable and you make the employer have to withhold taxes. If they're going to do that, they may as well pay a higher base pay and we know that's not happening. Anyway, I object to the word "tip" or "gratuity" because that's not what it is.

I should say it's not a tip or gratuity when it's being called mandatory of course. How some people don't understand that is just a mystery of the modern age. Make any fee you want part of the price for the customer, but it's not a fucking tip unless someone gave it to you unexpectedly. Make sense? Of course it does.

They do! Thats what 2.13 is for. If you wait tables for living odds are very high to be audited.

I didn't say "I don't want to", I said "I have problem with it".

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I had to laugh as I recall when I was a young teen my mom telling me she avoided dates with Dutch guys because of them always wanting to "go Dutch."

A 250 tip?

No, its a twofiddy tip... :2 cents:

How much is that in quid?

it's somehow funny

We only got fiddy cent :2 cents: