When exactly was this poverty rate going to zero? According the census the poverty rate in the US has between 12%-16% (with some dips up occasionally) since 1959. So was this near zero poverty rate before 1959?

so you're willing to let the 'reds' dictate how to live your life because you don't want to pay extra taxes? though the 'reds' never lower taxes any significant amount anyways. they are all talk and no action.

I'm down with whatever

The reds, like the blues, rarely ever do what they say they will. The reds claim they will lower taxes, shrink the size of the government and give you more personal freedom. Yet under them they either raise taxes or keep them the same (Bush did cut them I admit), they grow the size of the government and they pass laws like the patriot act (the blues are responsible for this as well) that actually take away your freedom.

If you are red or blue you are part of the problem. This country needs a good dose of grey.

Sort of.

The money you paid into the systems was used to support (pay) people currently enrolled in the system. In other words, if you go on welfare today you aren't pulling from money you paid into the system over the past twenty years, but instead you are pulling money from people currently paying into it.

Purple!!

I think I could be beige

The thing is, you are all making a fundamental mistake.

If you lower tax COLLECTIONS without reducing expenditures, and BORROW THE MONEY to make up the difference, you have NOT lowered taxes, you have RAISED them.

The borrowed money has to be paid back with interest eventually. All the republicans have ever done is defer taxes, and by deferring them, they have RAISED TAXES.

This whole tax argument makes no sense, because the republicans always raise expenses and lower collections, which increases the amount of money that has to eventually be paid back thru taxes.

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Other than that (that the republicans are lying when they claim to lower taxes) there is almost no practical difference in the overall economics and spending practices of the two parties. The primary differences are social and ethical.

My balls are blue,
My face is red
I like sex
Enuff said

Pepsi or Coke?

But the Market rules....