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Most of the good and all the great porn shooters have an Individual Personality which comes into play when dealing with models, anyone who has met Max will confirm he has it. Most of the time models require good selection which is done at the interview, good instructions and great directing. When done right the odds on succeeding with the final product are very high, when not done right the odds on failing are very high. Recently we had 2 versions of an Amateur porn scene. One was two girls in a bath being filmed by the BF and then one giving the guy a BJ then fucking him while the other filmed it, she left to early IMO. but it was HOT!!! It just worked, was a little different, seemed real and spontaneous. Then another amateur scene of an Eastern European couple doing the same thing we've all seen a 1,000 times before and simply didn't work. Even if it does, it's everywhere for free. The bath scene had Individual Personality the couples scene didn't. So how to get that element into your scenes. Read on. |
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Creating Individual Personality or a site's unique personality.
Firstly you need some personality, uniqueness or individuality ideas to give it something to sell. That does sell. Otherwise it's just down to traffic getting the sale. This can be done in Gonzo by the character holding the camera, there are so many examples of this, I need say no more. POV of a cock getting a BJ, is boring after a while and all duplicating each other unless the guy with the cock or the guy with the camera can insert something into the scene other than his cock. Ultimately for many it comes down to repeating the same scene over and over again. How many times have we seen a girl knock on a door, enter the room and in minutes drop to her knees and blow the cameraman? And this is repeated over and over again with our conveyor belt way of producing porn. Some variations. Pick the girl up in a car and get a BJ in the car, bus, lorry, train etc. Film it voyeur style, sneak away to a private room in a hotel after picking her up in a bar, get 2 or more girls, get another shooter to shoot it from the POV angle, pick up a "hooker" and film her without her knowing in a car, hotel room, etc. film a girl begging on the street and offer her money for a BJ. Only film girls who can do it with some fun a vitality, rather than girls on auto pilot. Get a shooter with loads of personal charm who can motivate girls to deliver a great scene. Because a guy who needs a camera to get laid, is going to produce shit porn. **************************** Note to the detractors trying to ruin this thread. I've survived 35 years and that alone says all you need to know. So keep making yourself look stupid. |
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Your legacy has been posted in this thread. Mediocre (at best) images which will be forgotten forever once you delete them or they disappear by attrition when you pass on. Paul Markham porn is filler porn. It will slowly disappear into the distant past and nobody will remember it in 20 years, for that matter people wont remember much about you except perhaps as that kooky old guy running around forums trying to prove he was worth something. |
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hey paul i just dropped in to remind you you have no traffic
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I feel sorry for Max Candy, even though he tricked me into spending $45, to be complemented on by Paul Markham must be the kiss of death.
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This thread is like a vegetarian trying to teach people how to cook steak. You've got no sites with a jot of personality. You ruined the thread when you started it. We're just pointing out to the newbs that you are trying to teach them something you've never pulled off. Oh well, the old saying is right. Those that cannot do, teach. :) xoxox |
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but i also heard the $3000 per set story nine years ago and that exclusive content is too cheap etc. and i am afraid while the world keeps turning and everything evolves, Paul is stuck in his time bubble somehow :winkwink: but while Paul and me surely disagree on many things, i still dont get the permanent insults and name calling (from all sides). especially cause no one would do that in real life face to face. |
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At the same time, he was clearly exaggerating everything he was saying, had little money, wasn't really even shooting content (Eva was in spite of him announcing new sets HE shot on GFY, when that wasn't true)... he was frantically trying to launch paysites, he was trying to launch tgps, he was doing his content blowout "me too" thing as he was losing to J$tyles and AaronM at the time as well as those who followed suit and he was trying to lease out his studio to anyone who would lease it. A year later he was begging for money on GFY to pay his bills. People react to him as they do because all he does is post insane shit, preach about things he knows nothing about, argues with people who do know, brags about success when he's clearly exaggerating about it or lying and does so, while calling everyone an idiot. |
In 10 years in this space I have not seen a change in the style or "personality" of the content that you are presenting here.
It looks as if it was shot about 1989 or so ... Capturing the "personality" on film is an art form that your content lacks again and again. |
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**************************** Back to the thread for those who want to learn an alternative way. So you have your unique twist on an idea or just a way you will style the content to suit your market. Now you need to find the performers. And I'm assuming here that you're not casting old times or people you have shot. Because unless a performer comes with a good CV and recommendations from people you trust, finding out they are crap on the day of the shoot is like burning your wallet. Interviews are castings. A chance to find out what a model can do, what their personality is like and how they react to you and the work you need from them. Also you establish yourself as a professional in front of models. So it's good to think about yourself and how you come across, having some real equipment around you says a lot. Even more important is the interviewer sets the pace at their terms. This will be old hat to anyone with professional interviewing techniques, for the rest here goes. First set out how you will conduct the interview/casting, only needs to be done once or twice and essential that the shooter knows where he's going. Introductions, invite to sit down and where, puts the shooter in charge. Then tell them what's going to happen and what you're looking for and most importantly what's in it for them. Such as getting work and paid. Obviously how an interview/casting for a newbie has to be conducted differently than for an experienced person or for one person different from a room full of people. And differently if you speak their language or not. Still it's important to set the agenda and not to allow the interviewee to set it. More late. Herb, go figure out why and come back and tell us. Before I tell people why it's best not to jump from style to style. Also look at what consumers think of our dated style. http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503 http://xhamster.com/movies/265560/pa...threesome.html Will post some samples of what I was shooting in 1989, so you can compare properly. :1orglaugh |
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Hardsextube ones doesn't have comments and the numbers are not impressive :2 cents: Uploaded by: martinifb Upload time: 2011-07-29 Duration: 29:59 Total views: 3003 Keep on preaching :thumbsup |
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https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1067038 Because it's so dated it would be from 1999. |
I sort of understand why Paul is so confused....
He posts his average boring sex scene which he did for $3000, he did not have any new idea, he did not waste any time with a look or fancy lighting and he buggered up the sound. BUT isn't that what 99% of porn looks like? The sex scenes of Max Candy's movie were just as lack luster, although they have discovered "the shot" which cinema discovered circa 1901. Any kid with a camera could probably do better. Most business people here don't want art, they want product, tons of it, like sausages. Because to be creative is expensive and a risk and business does not like it, it wants another film like the one that made money last year. So all hail Paul the hack, the sad thing is he is yesterdays hack. |
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Reading over the post you referenced I see you even blast it as well so I would assume that the content listed there is not your work either. Not sure what you are "showing me up" on exactly there. |
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Anyway happy to announce IB won a public vote. http://maxcandy.com/Unknowna.png Best French Movie last year, yeah i know its not perfect, and hell i know i can still learn, but you know what - we made a pretty damn good movie in IB and many many people liked it. Its now been broadcasted in most major markets - received well and its also made a hansom profit for the investors. Even, better news than that - is i am at working on a even bigger project now. |
Paul, i have absolutely no interest to discuss that for the 98th time since you dont acknowledge anything else than your own opinion anyways :)
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But you do see professionally shot TV and feature films don't you ? You see that they are in a completely different better class of work? Some made with budgets less than yours. Why ? I assume you do not want me to lie. The film was very poorly done. Life is very easy if we make the films and review them ourselves. I suspect the problem is not only with you but with the money people and producers who have their idea of what will make money, and a well made, well acted erotic masterpiece is not it. I asked you to return the favor and look at some of our films, I would suggest "The Signal" this is interesting as it shows that normal porn models can act... |
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Max, you gotta learn to ignore the haters man :thumbsup Hope you are well brotha' ...... |
hd and upclose is where its at...
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So to conducting an interview/casting.
With brand new girls it has to be done differently to experienced models. So to new models and how I did it since 1989, well before actually. :winkwink: Explain the business to the interviewee and the work that is done in full, with pay, hours, etc. As much as possible and do it as yourself, don't adopt a false persona for the interview that will change when you pick up a camera. Watch the interviewees reaction, eye contact, body language etc. You're looking for their reactions to what you want them to do and what the business offers. This is extremely important in most formats of porn. your work might be "Playboy" style and require the character and personality to bring it off. Or anal gang bang sex and you will want to know the interviewee has the character and personality to bring it off. Then ask the interviewee if they have any questions and answer them. Then ask them what they would like to do. This will generally be a little less than they are willing to do, yet it gives the interviewer a great idea of what they got in front of them. If a plain girl tells you she wants to do "Playboy" style, you need to let her down gently. A simple, "I'm afraid that's not for you, how about some solo girl "Amateur porn" work?". On the other hand if she appears dead nervous, scared of the whole thing and plumps for anal gang bang sex. you had best check out she can do it. Or risk wasting a lot of money. What ever she says she can do, don't just accept it with an OK, find out before you start booking locations, other models and days to work. We were fortunate in having markets that would buy anything for their "Readers Wives" magazines or just the section in a magazine. so we could make money testing them. Even when not, you still need to know how they will react in front of a camera. Same goes for boys, can he get wood when in front of a camera? Most men can't. Don't find out on the day of the shoot. This is about producing better selling porn, not churning out scenes to fill the daily quota, good or bad. Also as Herb points out my style hasn't needed to change much in 30 years. I'm still the same person, comfortable with how I work and it sells. Can the interviewee fit my format and style? Because there's no need to jump from style to style chasing the latest craze, when you have a winning format for you. Good porn comes from sticking to a format and improving it over the years. Styles of hair, shaven pussies and clothing change. Sex hasn't changed since single cell amoebas split in two to reproduce. Nor has what gets a dick hard changed much. Don't try to chase the affiliates craze. Follow your heart. Leave the "What Niche is selling the best for you right now?" to those who don't have a clue what boat to jump into next. |
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Not as an add on, like we did. But as your main market. Many shooters were able to get into the porn production business because of the lower demands from the Internet porn sponsors. Most would never of survived without the low entry requirements. Producing for magazines or videos would of sent them bankrupt. Those who were in the better paying levels, were never going to drop down to a lower paying level. Even if the level was $600, they would be fools to start shooting for $500 unless as an add on or forced to. This thread is about producing better selling porn, not fitting into the price sponsors are able or willing to pay. Finally the market for better end is coming back Sellers have realised there's more money in doing something a guy who bought his first digital camera last week can do. You and Max have both risen to a higher level. Are either of you shooting $300 solo girl full sets and videos scenes as your main market? I don't think you are, you've climbed up the ladder and not dropping down again. Pretty sure Max left that behind as well. OK your opinion is right, we should of stopped shooting better paying work and turned to the cheaper stuff. LOL |
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Glad you've stopping telling everyone about how important it is for a site to have personality though, seeing as none of yours have, that was silly. Wasn't it? |
I'm not a huge fan of "set up two strobes in a small room, crank up the power, and shoot away" type of content. But if you can make it work for you, more power to you.
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Now I don't know what it is about porn workers, but I have a TV and watch feature films, and when I pay $45 for IB and know it had a budget of $250,000, I am disappointed it is not made to professional standards. I am prepared to help point out the problems and help make it better, but so far no dialog, just its great. |
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Yeah, i guess your right. Thanks |
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The style is boring, the execution terrible. |
Why have you focussed the grass and not the dog?
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So back to the thread.
Interviewing experienced people needs to be done a little differently, you're just trying to find out if the models personality is right for what you need from them. It often goes beyond looks. Are they willing to do the scene as required, put a lot of effort into it, not going to go onto auto pilot the moment someone points the camera, not to blase about the work, etc. Ultimately the success of a porn scene comes down to the shooter and models working as a team with a goal in mind. It requires both of them to work hard at getting it right. Whether it's what Max shoots today or Ex Gf content an illusion has to be created that separates the scenes done that day to all the other scenes being churned out by "Paint by number" shooters. Because what sells porn is personality and the better the team capture the personality of the scene, the better it sells. It's not about setting the lights, it's about setting the scene in the viewers mind. All those videos were girls being themselves in a teasing sex mood, some a little fake and some not. but all coming across as I knew they could deliver and knew it would sell. Not just another girl doing another scene, to add to the pile of other girls doing other scenes. http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503 Is what I shot last year. The editor left out the parts that made the scene real, IMO. They were Sandra walking across the park towards me, while in the background she's telling people she's a model who loves her job. Then as she passes me, Sandra looks over the top of her sun glasses and smiles. This was the moment in her intro when she contacts the camera and says "And I get to share it with you." A solo girl, who can't be conning anyone she's Ex Gf or Amateur, contacting the viewer and telling him he's part of the scene. Add that to the rest and include the close of her sitting on the sofa, perspiring and hardly able to talk, being out of breath from multi orgasms, saying she hoped you enjoyed it as much as she did. And you have a winner. Shoot it with the wrong model on the wrong day, with the wrong shooter. All trying to get too much work done on a day. and you have a loser that's just filler content. |
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You did keep a backup of the material like ever professional would have? You do know how to edit don't you? After all the whole exercise is your bragging was to show us all how its done... |
Hilarious. In a thread about different personalities, Paul posts the most generic, cookie cutter, can't-tell-then-apart pics!
*And* he *thinks* they are good. Lolsome. |
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