silence from fris is VERY telling

isnt that how GPL works?

Theirs nothing saying I cant do that, if you dont wanna release a plugin or theme under GPL, then dont.

But I do have to thank Anna, being the rat she is, emailing every provider on the list of options I had.

Ive always been a supporter of her work, dont know why someone would go out of the way to contact every person, when if she looked up each solution and each product is GPL, which states, I can do whatever I want with the final product. (even reselling).

If you dont wanna be a wordpress product under the GPL, then dont do it.

How would anna like If i emaiiled all her clients from her portfolio? Im sure she wouldnt like it.

But if she wants to go out of her way to be a shit distruber, then whats fine, its up to her.

Maybe beflre you do, you might wanna read up on the GPL and what it allows.

:thumbsup

I can be reached via email if anyone has any questions as im not at home and wont be visiting this until monday, so replies are all welcome.

even anna who I have no illwill towards even though she did contact everyone out of spite.

I was going to post a url to the GPL, but im sure you know it since you already read it before contacting them right?

:2 cents:

:disgust

Post proof that you purchased your copy of Photoshop or STFU, slag.

If Wordpress themes fall under GPL, does that mean Fris is off the hook or on a different hook?

Major fatty

I asked a question... you didnt seem willing to answer it.. So i had to search for answers myself. Thiose are the answers i received.

I was confused.. Obv the companies involved are all confused and giving misinformation.
Ill hook yuo all up and you can discuss it yourself.

You know my ICQ has been red hot since this thread started...MOst unrelated to this.

I think you have a lot of shit to clean up.

He is well within his rights to do so.

Again, the WP community addressed this TWO YEARS AGO now.

If you released something with a GPL license, anyone who you give or sell your software too has the right to distribute it in any way they choose.

If this is legit why has his account been stopped

You pay for support etc, not the product.

He now can not log in and use their forums, get updates. That sort of thing.

He was selling plugins and theme frameworks. These are mostly php. The theme frameworks have the bare minimum with regards to css and usually have NO IMAGES.

Now I didn't see the whole list of stuff that was in the package. Premium plugins and theme frameworks would probably fall under the category you mention above.

And only you fail to see what is really going on here: One wp expert is trying to make the other wp expert look bad.

If that is the case it would not be snitching by any definition I am aware of.

Fair use, baby

-gg

And she might be cute, but her attitude on this board is one of a real bitch. The "C" word is more fitting, but I'm trying to be nice. :1orglaugh

Totally, always slamming others in her posts.

Cunt? Yeah, totally. I've already used it. That's her new nickname.

In one breath you say you're confused and in the next you're telling him he has a lot of shit to clean up? Make up your mind.

Since you were confused about the situation and don't seem to understand GPL, how about you apologize to fris and quit treading on his dick?

Headway is released under the GPLv2. Right from their site. If you purchase this from them you have certain rights as per the GPL.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html

And these guys know he's well within his rights too. Check out how they word their ToS. No mention of the actual software, but the service. You're paying to access the download updates and the support. Because GPLv2 let's everyone do what they want with the code.

She's always slinging shit in an effort to make herself look good. That's how she operates on this board.

I wouldn't hold your breath for her apology. That would mean admitting she was wrong and a real bitch won't ever admit she's wrong. I live with one and was brought up by one. :winkwink:

She's obviously just trying to stir shit up trying and get more clients. I highly recommend all designers jump in this thread and spam, and spam all of her threads and posts with your own stuff. She does it, why shouldn't you?

I have not seen the pack, but assuming it is all covered by GPL Fris has done nothing wrong.

Of course that means you can also distribute it in any way - My email is dami....JK!

No. Wrong again. You have no clue what you're talking about. Headway is split-license, you should really stop repeating all these falsities.

Your quite wrong there candy. I would LOVE to be shown the door and told how wrong I am.
And i will gladly apologize to Fris if this indeed above board.

Its just that one person is screaming its OK ... and the companies involved say its not.

Bitch .. cunt.. fat cunt. It has no effect on me. I'm much worse than that.

So under GPL.. who wants this package for free?

Obviously it effects you, otherwise it wouldn't have warranted a mention. Fatso.

How did you get it? You bought a copy?

:1orglaugh

Offering to give it all away for free, but slamming Fris for selling it :upsidedow

:2 cents:

It has been pointed out to you. The only thing they can do is cut off his access to updates and support, because that's all the GPL and their ToS allow them to do.

The people you contacted are saying that because they either don't understand the license they have released their software under or just have sour grapes because they don't like the situation they are forced into if they want to put something out for Wordpress. The WP organization did force them into this arrangement.

I've pulled my info from two different spots on their website. Neither mentions a split license. The ToS doesn't even contain the word split.

http://headwaythemes.com/terms-of-service/

This is right from the first sentence in their Terms of Service:

1. HEADWAY THEMES LICENSING
HEADWAY THEMES GPL LICENSING
All WordPress themes produced by Headway Themes, LLC (Company) are released under the GPL version 2.0 license (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html GNU/GPLv2).

THEME DELIVERY
After your payment has been successfully received, you will receive download links and support forum registration information to the email address you provided during purchase. If you do not receive an email after this time period, contact at [email protected]

A dude on a witness removal mission ain't about to debate semantics :1orglaugh

Insufficient research on your part doesn't give you an excuse to make bold claims that are untrue.

Here you are, written by Grant himself.
http://blogforprofit.com/headway-new...under-the-gpl/

Its been banded around for free since the first copy was sold.

It was a joke.....

You're pulling a comment from an article which conflicts with the actual ToS posted on the site.

Which do you think is more valid from a legal standpoint, him ranting in an article, or the ToS on the site?

That is a two year old blog post and is basically a rant against exactly what I am talking about. He doesn't like that Wordpress is forcing something on him.

I'm posting their CURRENT Terms of Service which is what anyone giving them money is agreeing to and again, mentions nothing of a split license and only GPLv2. You don't think it's possible that in the 2 years they've decided to play by the rules that Wordpress has laid out.

Again their current ToS states that all Headway themes are GPLv2. I'm not concerned with what a 2 year old blog post states, it's the Terms of Service and based on that fris was certainly within his rights to do what he did, and they were within their rights to cancel his service. That's about it.

From other threads:
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