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MaDalton 06-18-2012 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19011085)
From where did you get Paytech?

he got it from me

and i got it from the URL of their payment form

https://secure.oron.com/?op=credit_c...ch&amount=9.95

alf6300 06-18-2012 05:09 AM

More Oron uploaders discussing Oron debacle. Seems the boat is sinking for them.

http://planetsuzy.org[REMOVE_THIS]/t588767-oron-not-paying-out-anymore-.html

aciuf 06-18-2012 05:16 AM

[QUOTE=MaDalton;19011247]he got it from me

and i got it from the URL of their payment form



your link directs me to oron's own form, but I don't see PayTech there :(

Tijuana_Tom 06-18-2012 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19011233)
Would it be a problem for Oron if we started uploading masses of empty files ? Or are they so resourced it would be impossible to not hurt them with a sustained uploading effort ? I'm sure it could be automated with proxies to the point that they could be sent several TB per hour.

That could be considered an attack and illegal. :1orglaugh

Wow you are full of good ideas!

(fail btw)

alf6300 06-18-2012 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19011300)

your link directs me to oron's own form, but I don't see PayTech there :(

it's in the url and in the pagesource.
it appears this is a prejoin that gets processed on paytech (did not try to go to the next page, though)

Phoenix 06-18-2012 05:25 AM

wow good work boys...lets keep it going

seek and destroy!!!

SoulTaker 06-18-2012 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 19002254)
Sometimes pirate A uploads files to Oron and pirate B posts links to it in another forum, and everybody thanks pirate B, and then pirate A will freak out and get angry because someone else gets the credit for his hard work.

Honestly, I think most pirates are psychopates. They lack empathy and many consider us producers as maffia mobsters because we have the courage to expect people to pay for our creations and not upload them to other sites.

You seem to know exactly how most pirates think, and you also know how they think about you. Insane man :pimp

Are piracy sites filled with walls of text "the producer of this video is a mobster cause he wants $$$ for this"?

Never seen it before.

candyflip 06-18-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19011237)
we are operating on different browsers here. had no idea we have a problem on Safari. we need to look into that...

Looks awful in Chrome, Safari and Firefox.

What browser do you use? Please don't say IE.

aciuf 06-18-2012 06:44 AM

No IE for us. Is there anyone who's still using it, anyways ? we're on Firefox but it's weird that we see it nice and neat. we're on it to see what's the issue...tnx for letting us know

Voland 13 06-18-2012 06:56 AM

Great news! We abused them at least 1000 times
Going to celebrate it :pimp

MaDalton 06-18-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19011300)
your link directs me to oron's own form, but I don't see PayTech there :(


Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 19011308)
it's in the url and in the pagesource.
it appears this is a prejoin that gets processed on paytech (did not try to go to the next page, though)

like i said - it's in the URL :warning

JosephFM 06-18-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19011233)
Would it be a problem for Oron if we started uploading masses of empty files ? Or are they so resourced it would be impossible to not hurt them with a sustained uploading effort ? I'm sure it could be automated with proxies to the point that they could be sent several TB per hour.

What about like EukerVoorn suggested in another thread, submit dirty content to them with paypal, visa and mastercard watermarks?

That should get their attention.

EukerVoorn 06-18-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SoulTaker (Post 19011340)
You seem to know exactly how most pirates think, and you also know how they think about you. Insane man :pimp

You mean to ask me if I know how thieves think. Yes, and it's not that hard, thieves aren't the most intelligent or complicated people. They're very transparant. Same goes for Russians, Indians and Pakistanis in general... very simple transparant people. That's why if another Indian train falls from a mountain with 400 people dead, everybody in the West thinks... wow 400 dead Indians that's almost as bad as one dead person in London. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

EukerVoorn 06-18-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 19011782)
What about like EukerVoorn suggested in another thread, submit dirty content to them with paypal, visa and mastercard watermarks?

That should get their attention.

HEY! I never mentioned V/MC and I suggested that we should NOT do it because it would be bad, we would be violating PayPal's trademark rights and that would be bad! So I'm definitely NOT going to do it! :winkwink:

Major (Tom) 06-18-2012 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulTaker (Post 19011340)
You seem to know exactly how most pirates think, and you also know how they think about you. Insane man :pimp

Are piracy sites filled with walls of text "the producer of this video is a mobster cause he wants $$$ for this"?

Never seen it before.

he's right. They engage in battles of "who stole it first." They loose perspective in the spirit of the chase. They all think the producer of said content needs to be punished because of the money he might or is making. Most pirates are members of your site but they would never admit that as it takes away their ninja status.
ds

Major (Tom) 06-18-2012 02:39 PM

I found out one pirate was an E8 in the army. I got his number, presented all my data of his memberships, his porn board logins & email. I presented them to his wife. They got divorced.
I still stroke my cock over that one.
ds

lucas131 06-18-2012 02:44 PM

dondes muy dinero?

DWB 06-18-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 19012210)
I found out one pirate was an E8 in the army. I got his number, presented all my data of his memberships, his porn board logins & email. I presented them to his wife. They got divorced.
I still stroke my cock over that one.
ds

I think you may be my new hero.

THAT is how you handle shit. Too bad not all of them have real lives worthy of ruining.

xenigo 06-18-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19012339)
I think you may be my new hero.

THAT is how you handle shit. Too bad not all of them have real lives worthy of ruining.

Indeed. That has to be about spot-on perfect. These guys operate under the assumption that nothing will ever happen to them. It's about time we start proving them wrong.

clarkkent 06-18-2012 04:39 PM

If everybody did this world would be a better place:

If you have a pay site and some php skill, implement a relatively simple script which executes in the background when a new member logs in for the first time and tags one or more of your chosen "bait" clips with that member's ID or username. Most video formats will allow you to store some data inside them. Then code your member page so that each member sees their own version of the bait clip(s). I don't do all clips as that takes far too long but I pick 2-3 really good clips. Then when you see those clips on file sharing sites you know the member who posted them.

Proceed to fuck with him according to your own imagination.

xenigo 06-18-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 19012399)
If everybody did this world would be a better place:

If you have a pay site and some php skill, implement a relatively simple script which executes in the background when a new member logs in for the first time and tags one or more of your chosen "bait" clips with that member's ID or username. Most video formats will allow you to store some data inside them. Then code your member page so that each member sees their own version of the bait clip(s). I don't do all clips as that takes far too long but I pick 2-3 really good clips. Then when you see those clips on file sharing sites you know the member who posted them.

Proceed to fuck with him according to your own imagination.

I've been wanting something like this for a long time. Everyone really should have something like this that easily identifies the source of the leaked content.

Can you put up a tutorial on how to do this? I mean something for non-programmers to implement.

Captain Kawaii 06-18-2012 08:11 PM

GFY Appears to Be Born Again HARD! - Power to the People!!!!!!

DTK 06-18-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 19011851)
That's why if another Indian train falls from a mountain with 400 people dead, everybody in the West thinks... wow 400 dead Indians that's almost as bad as one dead person in London. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wow, that was hella fuckin' funny..if you're a psychopath or something

DTK 06-18-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 19012210)
I found out one pirate was an E8 in the army. I got his number, presented all my data of his memberships, his porn board logins & email. I presented them to his wife. They got divorced.
I still stroke my cock over that one.
ds

that's ferocious awesome :thumbsup

Slappin Fish 06-19-2012 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19012339)
I think you may be my new hero.

THAT is how you handle shit. Too bad not all of them have real lives worthy of ruining.

Shame that when he can't ruin their life he sits down and makes deals with them :321GFY

How is Duke dollars sponsorship of extreme-board going? still worth it?

BIGTYMER 06-19-2012 12:12 AM

Keep the pressure on boys!

Major (Tom) 06-19-2012 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19012835)
Shame that when he can't ruin their life he sits down and makes deals with them :321GFY

How is Duke dollars sponsorship of extreme-board going? still worth it?

yup. Sometimes you have to pay to keep shit off a board. Only a fool would think what I'm doing is advertising.
ds

Major (Tom) 06-19-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19012638)
that's ferocious awesome :thumbsup

find out his wife was an e8 too but a prude. ohh man good story how it all went down but I said enough already.
ds

Slappin Fish 06-19-2012 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 19012872)
yup. Sometimes you have to pay to keep shit off a board. Only a fool would think what I'm doing is advertising.
ds

So it's what I'm saying you made a deal with them :2 cents:

Major (Tom) 06-19-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19012878)
So it's what I'm saying you made a deal with them :2 cents:

i wouldnt call it that. I call it the most cost effective way to keep my shit off of there. When a better & cheaper way comes up I'm on it.
ds

Tijuana_Tom 06-19-2012 01:24 AM

inb4 someone gets this message.

"idiots at GFY are fucking shit up for us. ddos?"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-19-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 19012399)

If everybody did this world would be a better place:

If you have a pay site and some php skill, implement a relatively simple script which executes in the background when a new member logs in for the first time and tags one or more of your chosen "bait" clips with that member's ID or username. Most video formats will allow you to store some data inside them. Then code your member page so that each member sees their own version of the bait clip(s). I don't do all clips as that takes far too long but I pick 2-3 really good clips. Then when you see those clips on file sharing sites you know the member who posted them.

Proceed to fuck with him according to your own imagination.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19012454)

I've been wanting something like this for a long time. Everyone really should have something like this that easily identifies the source of the leaked content.

Can you put up a tutorial on how to do this? I mean something for non-programmers to implement.

http://files.sharenator.com/touche_m...x520-86607.jpg

ADG

DWB 06-19-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19012878)
So it's what I'm saying you made a deal with them :2 cents:

I see what Duke did with Extreme Board more of a preemptive strike. There is a smaller tube that I did the same thing with. They were hammering us day and night with my older ripped DVD videos, non-stop, so I worked something out with them and now they don't show up there anymore. That doesn't mean I support piracy, or even them. That means I found a way to control that site and solve a problem.

Paul Markham 06-19-2012 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19012938)
I see what Duke did with Extreme Board more of a preemptive strike. There is a smaller tube that I did the same thing with. They were hammering us day and night with my older ripped DVD videos, non-stop, so I worked something out with them and now they don't show up there anymore. That doesn't mean I support piracy, or even them. That means I found a way to control that site and solve a problem.

Is this a better solution.

We can pay the Tube and piracy sites not to take our business away from us. </sarcasm>

Major (Tom) 06-19-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19012938)
I see what Duke did with Extreme Board more of a preemptive strike. There is a smaller tube that I did the same thing with. They were hammering us day and night with my older ripped DVD videos, non-stop, so I worked something out with them and now they don't show up there anymore. That doesn't mean I support piracy, or even them. That means I found a way to control that site and solve a problem.

exactly.
ds

Matyko 06-19-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19001292)
"thats impossible zero sales with my hard work"

i would love to shove some explosives up that guys ass - like in "Man on Fire"

I'd rather go Fargo style ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v-89frQg76...00/fargo+3.jpg

DWB 06-19-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19012943)
Is this a better solution.

We can pay the Tube and piracy sites not to take our business away from us. </sarcasm>

It's not a perfect solution by any means, but it's a solution nonetheless.

At the end of the day, I will do what I have to do to keep my content off of sites I feel are the most damaging to my business. Sometimes that means leaving some content on there that is older that I don't care so much about anymore. Sometimes that means hammering them until they give me access to delete my own content. Sometimes that means advertising or letting them be an affiliate. And sometimes that means costing them their processing accounts and in some causes, they have lost their hosting.

Though, I have to admit I've never done anything as bad ass as Duke and cause a divorce. That is just fucking awesome.

While no one enjoys skinning a cat, there is more than one way to do it.

clarkkent 06-19-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19012454)
I've been wanting something like this for a long time. Everyone really should have something like this that easily identifies the source of the leaked content.

Can you put up a tutorial on how to do this? I mean something for non-programmers to implement.

There is no way really to do it without some programming and it is difficult to provide step by step instructions as it all depends on how the site is implemented, format of the clips etc. I would suggest getting a web developer to do it, it shouldn't take more than a day of work.

Also, the thief can easily re-encode the clip and erase any metadata you put in it so it kinda depends on them not knowing what's going on. Still it's been very effective for me as they usually don't bother with reencoding the clips.

xenigo 06-19-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkkent (Post 19014109)
There is no way really to do it without some programming and it is difficult to provide step by step instructions as it all depends on how the site is implemented, format of the clips etc. I would suggest getting a web developer to do it, it shouldn't take more than a day of work.

Also, the thief can easily re-encode the clip and erase any metadata you put in it so it kinda depends on them not knowing what's going on. Still it's been very effective for me as they usually don't bother with reencoding the clips.

There's definitely a way to do it that would be very difficult to remove. If you were to encode the video with certain frames with a group of pixels that alternate in different places through the video and kind of "blend in" with the surrounding pixels... you could create a sort of dynamic QR code that would be virtually impossible to see with your eyes. The pixels could be large enough that even if you were to transcode to a lower resolution format, it would still be obvious who the pirate was. And I highly doubt they'd be willing to go through the entire video frame by frame to see if they could pull it out...

SoulTaker 06-19-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn (Post 19011851)
You mean to ask me if I know how thieves think. Yes, and it's not that hard, thieves aren't the most intelligent or complicated people. They're very transparant. Same goes for Russians, Indians and Pakistanis in general... very simple transparant people. That's why if another Indian train falls from a mountain with 400 people dead, everybody in the West thinks... wow 400 dead Indians that's almost as bad as one dead person in London. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Actually, the top pirates seem to be pretty smart as they keep releasing movies and stuff while companies spend MILLIONS and MILLIONS to stop it (piracy exists since? 1980?) :winkwink:

Not saying what they do is good. But the dumb people are only the ones that upload to the filehosts. The smart people are on top, and actually do it without making any money, in fact they put their own money in the business to keep it running (yes, for fun.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EukerVoorn
Sometimes pirate A uploads files to Oron and pirate B posts links to it in another forum, and everybody thanks pirate B, and then pirate A will freak out and get angry because someone else gets the credit for his hard work.

Also wrong, nobody ever reposts other peoples links to other forums cause that won't make them money.


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