This does not illustrate the lemming effect... the reason they end up going off cliffs is not because the first one willingly jumps, and the rest willingly follow. It's more like a massive traffic jam that ends up with everyone rear-ending everyone else and pushing the whole fucking bunch of the front lemmings right off the cliff. The first one stops, and the rest don't realize it... ending in a stampede / pile-up.

Much like rush hour traffic in Los Angeles.

The UK. Want me to list more. Now the question to you is. Do you block traffic from countries where it is illegal?

Where does it break the TOS of processors is more important?

Yes arguing with me is a waste of time if you want to hear the truth. I'm not sure where it and isn't illegal, it's your job to know that. And to block the traffic from those countries. r you're ignoring the rules of others to suit your pocket. something we all do, just don't get high and mighty on me.

This was a post by Barry. It shows his head is stuck so far up his ass he can't see. Loosing online credit card processing would in way hurt porn. I debated the other side that it would boost porn.

Truth is obvious. Since I pointed out how webcams profit from piracy he hasn't been back. Probably to scared I will find webcam sites pop ups all over the piracy sites.

Thank you EV for side tracking this thread. It's got nothing to do with where Scat is legal or not. It's about targeting piracy sites and their inability to monitor their sites and still comply with the DMCA laws. And more importantly comply with the rules of their processors and ultimately the Credit Card companies.

However if it was known Paypal were processing for illegal to publish material in certain countries, that would be an additional blow to deliver.

What this industry needs is to set up a body, which is paid for by us, to keep up the fight. We have already dealt some file lockers a blow with their CCbill processing being withdrawn. We need to build on this not relegate the debate to a pointless argument that achieves nothing or idiots posting stupidity because I'm the person starting the thread.

This is about the prolonged survival of what ever business is left for recorded porn. So :321GFY socks. I posted a thread about Neanderthals and early man. Maybe you would feel more at home there.

Golden Showers is illegal in the UK as well. And that's the point I made earlier... if you want to crusade against scat, you also have to crusade against golden showers, and with that you'll be crusading against squirting, etc etc. Where does it end? Therefor rational people try to keep things simple and draw the line there were fun ends and misery starts; cp, bestiality, rape.

No I don't block countries where scat is illegal because I live under the French law not under the UK law. UK citizens downloading content from my servers break the UK law, not I.

You admitted that you were a pornographer once. You're not a pornographer anymore and you don't think like a pornographer, you think like a narrow minded Amish bigot. So you're a waste of time and energy for me. Don't worry, you're not alone, and if you start an anti-scat thread you'll find a lot of support on this forum. Just remember; a real pornographer believes in live and let live, enjoy life as much as you can and fuck your brains out as much as you can, just as long as other's don't have to suffer from your pleasure. So keep your hands off children and animals and drugged, drunk or sleeping people and keep it on consenting level only.

We already discussed the TOS of Visa/MC and processors. Visa and MasterCard have a TOS list online and scat is not in it. Bestiality and CP are.

lol you sidetracked your own thread in the first post already by dragging scat into the PayPal/Piracy/CP problem.

The goods news is it seems the pressure is mounting and now MC are taking notice. Piracy's Achilles heel is processing. We need to inform Paypal and all other processors of any of their merchants breaking the rules. With Paypal it's easy it's porn and all sorts, the worse that porn is the heavier the blow. The threat of it getting out that they process for forms of porn that are illegal in some countries, would be even better.

Other processors might be tougher to deal with, some Russians might turn a blind eye. We need to look into this situation when we have tackled the easier ones.

Why do you keep insisting on telling everyone again and again that you are retired, when you're clearly not?

PayPal is going to get a lot of SHIT in the coming weeks, and in a few weeks from now we'll all be laughing very hard again.

Because I am. Posting here isn't work. Except for the sig whores.

Sometimes I try to identify your ideas too, Paul, but I get lost in your 15,000 word posts I'm afraid. Like looking for a needle in a haystack. At some point I just wised up and stopped trying.

You could at least write in The Queen's English or something to keep us amused. How about it? :winkwink:

PS: I made a whole thread telling you to write one line TL;DR (too long; didn't read) brief summaries at the end of your posts, but you didn't listen. Try it, people might love it.

funny guy ! :))

This is what we can achieve when we work together.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006829&postcount=108

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071496

So stop trolling and offer to help in the fight.

Sorry if you don't understand me. Still, thank you for the bump. :thumbsup

Read my previous post. Then give the thread another bump when it drops down the board.

Squeeler was the first asshole I put on ignore in here :winkwink:

I picture him as a very skinny dude, smoking and drinking like crazy, unemployed, a few tattoos, earrings, long hair with tail, and his fat wife sends him out to take the dog for a walk 3 times a day :1orglaugh

Do you ever accept good friendly advice, or are you always too smart for it?

You made the same post to me last time.. That I "don't understand you". What is there to not understand? Or is that just your elitism leaking out?

Manwin.

What people can achieve when they work with no one.

:2 cents:

I'm supposed to of met him. Have to be honest and say I probably did and he made such a great impression I completely forgot him, Eva and my Assistant Jana did as well.

He's the kind of idiot who wanted to fly webcam girls from Russia, to Prague, then drive them to Brno 200 km away, put them up in a flat so I would let him take over part of my studio, some of my equipment and one of my shooters, to shoot his cheap sets while he site in the studio translating for the model.

I wasn't that stupid to waste my time with an enterprise like that. Seems he found another shooter who needed his business. :1orglaugh

This was all after meeting our staff of 8 and seeing our 3,500 sq ft studio and the offices. He swears blind I was broke and going bust. In 2004. :1orglaugh

I picture him as some idiot who thinks other people will think his story is true.

Do you ever accept friendly advice?

Don't read threads you know you won't understand. :thumbsup

That couldn't be further from the truth. That is LOT of people working together, all over the world.

Manwin is what you can accomplish when you steal, launder money, lie, steal some more, repackage the company under a new name, understand business, and have access to an incredible amount of money.

You can attack me all you want Paul. I'm offering friendly advice on how you could come across to the GFY community better, which you have a problem with on a daily basis. You write long, run-on sentences that are hard to read. If you simply provided a two second summary, people here would appreciate it, including myself. Then maybe I'll consider reading it all.

There's nothing in my writing to indicate I wouldn't understand anything you can dream up. I have a fairly large vocabulary, grew up in a first world country, and I beat your mom at Scrabble most Thursday evenings.

I agree that people can get together and pressure a processor to stop processing for something they are improperly/illegally benefiting from. However, without securing content, finger printing content, actively sending dmca's (automated, correctly formatted etc - to site owner, host and registrar) - there is no point in chest pounding about a fake ccbill announcement.

They don't give a fuck about anything or anyone. Their tools suck, their stats suck, they've always sucked and their own stats system has always barely even loaded and they have always been in the middle of dubious transactions and as i'm sure you know, you can't just dump a huge volume of high risk transactions without causing cb ratios to skyrocket - risking all their processing. Every shady source of transactions has to be replaced for the simple fact that they can't balance cb ratios. That's why you have shit like them processing for the markethealth.com pill scams - "Free free free....!!!!" - until you read the fine print and see your credit card getting hit for $90.00 for a bottle of pills that cost $5.00 to make in addition to "bonus offers - for your convenience"

When you're trying to stay below 1.00% CB's in high risk processing... you can't afford a hit in transaction volume, no matter what public proclamation is made.

Besides.. this "whack a mole" thing has been going on for over a decade now. Net result - zero impact.

BTW... i have always liked you. I understand that as a producer, you have a very different perspective than a non producer and that its a very emotional thing for many, where it really isn't for me.

Yes that confirms he knows nothing about running a business. If you want to shoot with Russian models you go shoot in Moskow, not in Brno. I also shoot with Russian models and I shoot with them in France but that's because I shoot with models from all over world and I have a family here so I can't travel around much. But if I was shooting with Russian models only, I would move myself and my family to Moskow. I'm getting curious about Brno, Ma Dalton posted good stuff about it in another thread.

Kinda funny watching two idiots amuse each other. Two idiots who simultaneously claim they know nothing and everything about me. Since i'm the only one who is fluent in Russian and ran many successful companies in Russia with multiple offices and hundreds of employees, I really don't think i'm going to benefit from the advice of a deranged idiot who runs scat sites and looks like an escaped mental patient.

But I do admit, you and Paul make a very good couple. Soul mates.

Since Paul got busted in so many lies at once by me, including denying he knows me when... he now relies on the notion that he must have "forgot" since being forgetful is apparently more forgivable than being a well noted liar.

I write as I write, get used to it or ignore me.

So this thread is about us working together to fight some aspects of piracy. Not about people sniping at me because I don't write clearly enough for them to understand. Others can.

i think you are on to something here paul please elaborate

hit me back brutha

lets do this thing!

when the cop rolls on up on da pimp in magnum force and caps dat fool

man dat shit is da bomb ya her

You know Paul made this thread after seeing GFY have some success shutting down websites' processors.

"They will finally give me some credit!"

lol - Backfire

his excuse for wanting to fly webcam models from Russia to Czech was "It's illegal to shoot porn in Russia." Anyone who has taken a minute to look will find this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornogr..._region#Russia

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Still he achieved his aim in side tracking the thread on hurting piracy??????????????

As for shooting in Czech today, I've little real knowledge of the model situation. It would be best to hit up Petra at www.model-mania.com. She always looked after us well and know the girls available.

[QUOTE=Paul Markham;19008181]his excuse for wanting to fly webcam models from Russia to Czech was "It's illegal to shoot porn in Russia." Anyone who has taken a minute to look will find this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornogr..._region#Russia

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This shit has been explained to you so many times that i'm often wondering how you survive. You take stupidity and ignorance to a level that often leaves me wondering how you manage involuntary things like breathing without forgetting or arguing with yourself against the need to breath.

It has always been illegal to produce and distribute porn in Russia as even the fucking link says you dumb fucking twit. And as someone who spent many years running an empire in one of the worlds most corrupt gangster states... maybe I knew a thing or two about what I was doing? Maybe you don't have a clue, as usual.

So here we are. A washed up old senile fuck who had to beg for money to stay alive and feed his family WHILE telling everyone how successful he is and knows everything about making money and a guy who proudly runs scat sites, cursed in life with the looks of an escaped mental patient are trying to bash me. Pretty funny shit! :)

http://i.imgur.com/p98kD.gif

:thumbsup

It's also just occurred to me that neither of you two fuckwits have any clue what its like to have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around that you need to spend/invest.

So he was scared of the Russian law. When you have money you don't need to be afraid, just be prepared for paying the cops when they walk into your office.

As you will find if you look around, the Law in Russia is fuzzy. Many shoot there and keep low profile and move around. We have people on this board today he shoot in far worse places for porn production. The cost of flying them to Czech, bringing them to Brno, putting them up in an apartment, bringing them to the studio every day, paying them while they're not generating money online, losing the money they generate online, chaperoning them, having Squealer in the studio translating and not in Russia doing his job and paying for anyone to shoot them. Makes the whole enterprise expensive. All to "Not shoot solo girl sets in Russia." :upsidedow

Plus the chance the girls might like being here rather than in Russia.

Would the Visa these girls have allow them to work? If not he thought I was going to break the law for his cheap business.

IMO he wanted to mover the Russian girls here for a webcam business and that is something I would never of done. Unless he was willing to fund the whole thing and pay me a wage that would get me away from the core business.

Still the photos he has proves he was here. It's the rest of the story that's complete BS. Except the car, we never did drive girls around in big fancy cars. Never slap the workers in the face with how much you're making out of them. Rule #1 in employing people. :thumbsup

The interesting thing is. What does he do today? Still run a big webcam studio in Russia, work part time shoving traffic, while the full time business is flipping burgers?

At least you can see what I've been doing for the last 20+ years. Keeping away from the business ideas of idiots like him. He's a mystery and he will keep it that way.

He's not doing anything. Succesful people don't post the way he does. The anger, frustration and envy is dripping from his posts. I picture him as someone with very dirty fetishes and you and I don't want to know what porn he masturbates on.

And it's very easy to set-up a live cam network in Russia and keep a low profile. As you wrote, some people even do it from much worse countries. I'm sure there are webcam girls in Iran and Saudi-Arabia and Afghanistan too.

It's cute when two like people find each other and strike up a loving relationship. Just when you think a guy is too stupid to remember to breath and too much of a liar to be honest about it, he finds his soul mate on a porn forum. How fitting... the owner of lezpoo.com and a failed content shooter who begs for money for food, trying to fix a multi billion dollar industry because they know it all... end up together.

I understand you continually trying to rewrite history Paul with denial, lies, idiotic hypothesizing and speculating on things that have been explained to you in tremendous detail already... your history is embarrassing and getting caught in lies all the time has to be wearing on you.

So are webcams legal? Can you show us proof that webcam is legal and solo girl shoots are not please. Not questioning you, just waiting to be informed.

So you ran an empire in one of the worlds most corrupt gangster states" and couldn't set up a few solo girls shoots in Russia. :1orglaugh

And you do? :1orglaugh

You're a full of shit loser who can't even tell a good lie.

So what do you do today, now the webcam empire is gone?

No you have not explained how you were running an empire in Russia and unable to shoot some solo girl sets. Are porn webcams, in a fixed location, legal? Show the evidence please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...hy_and_erotica

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian...a#Legal_issues

Seems you're losing this one.

Couldn't find anything defining webcam as exempt or solo girl as illegal. Just the vague definition.

I picture squeeler as someone who once had a few hundred thousand dollars lying around and spent it all on tattoos, piercings, earrings, cigarettes, booze and drugs :1orglaugh

Since you wont stop, lets recap Paul.

I wanted to produce a series of solo sites around our best models to feed cam sites.

I wanted to shoot them outside of Russia for several reasons which included:
- legal reasons
- wanted experienced shooters
- personal reason of having an excuse to travel elsewhere

We eventually created 20 or so.


I flew to CZ to meet some people in Prague with my manager and basically just to unwind. We drove to Brno for 2 days to meet you and talk to you about the possibility of shooting solo girl sets.

From the first moments of being with you, you came off as a tactless molester, sitting outside a supermarket and commenting on every young girl that walked by talking about how her pussy must taste... regardless of the fact they were not of legal age, with parents, with boyfriends etc. Funny that the recollection of both myself and Yulia are the same about you and all the uncomfortable moments. Clearly a shared delusion, I guess.

We then went to your studio. It was a shithole. Dirty, disgusting place, in a bad area, in a bad building with a few IKEA discount sets. (Even though I described the building, its location, the bakery in the same building, the colors and so on, you called me a liar and said i had never been there.)

By this time, we're thinking "obviously this guy has never seen anything near the success he wants people to believe he has... in fact, he's obviously a bit mental"

At your studio, you offer my manager 1000.00 to fuck you, thinking you were being funny
You asked her in she wants to eat pussy, in spite of her obvious discomfort with you and the topic and sexual conversation with a disgusting old man

You talked non stop about how awesome you are. Like everyone else here has seen you post a million times, it was just a blur of how great you are, $3000.00, magazines, selling to magazines, making more money with magazines etc. In fact, we were thinking "wow, this guy clearly can't make it online... i was under the impression he was doing good"

We couldn't help but notice you were in a panic and losing money BEFORE tubes. You were already doing the discount content thing after getting your ass handed to you by j$tyles et al in that market.

You were simultaneously trying to launch paysites and tgps

But the funniest thing was you telling us in great details about your plans to lease your tiny shitty studio to European and American shooters for $1000s per day.

You were like a chicken with its head cut off when it came to business.

From there, Eva invited us to dinner, we politely accepted.

You, with us losing interest and with you desperate for any kind of deal invited us to a photoshoot out doors with that brunette from Prague. (who you also bragged about fucking with your wife - as part of the endless barage of innapropriate conversation)

We went to the shoot with you. You denied that. Said it never happened. You said you only did one shoot out doors and actually picked it out of your content store... which was the exact shoot I was talking about. In spite of me describing every single detail from where your car was parked and how, to the guy who came and told you to get off his property, you still denied we were there.

We went to dinner. By this time, we were really only speaking to Eva who was a very kind host. Dinner was great, she was a good cook. We were pretty much done with you because you were so unprofessional and just a general idiot.

We all did however agree on Eva and an assistant shooting sets for us for whatever it was. XX for $1500 per girl or something. I don't remember. WHatever it was, you deny it anyway.

You did send many follow up emails asking me when we were going to get started, which I ignored. Not because my intention was to be rude, but because you were such an idiot, we really didn't know what to say.

I held my tongue for many years out of respect to Eva as she was shooting all your content even though you quite clearly wanted everyone to think otherwise, knowing your business was dying, you had a child and you were obviously going to crash and burn.

Not too long after that, you were done. You were on GFY begging for money.

all mixed in with "$3000.00" ... "magazines..." "no one can afford me"... yada yada yada

Years later, I finally share my experience with you.

You call me a liar

You continued to call me a liar until i posted pics of at that shoot.

Then you "forgot".

uhm... yeah. LOL
Oh... you just weren't interested enough to remember... uhm... ok.. LOL


NOW... to combat the shame and embarassment of being totally humiliated, you try to turn things on me with this absurd "why were you in CZ to begin with" conversation. Doesn't change the fact that I was there, talking to you about business.

... And as if that has anything to do with you being a total fuckwit loser who was going broke and spent more time oggling young teens in public places than actually producing and selling content.


So carry on Paul, i'm busy today. Keep asking rhetorical or stupid questions which have already been answered in great depth. Keep pretending you have a point to make. Keep pretending you know anything about business in Russia. Keep pretending you understand something about the very fluid and dynamic legal system which took 10 years to dismantle and rebuild and made very little sense, or... corruption, crime or police or anything else. I have no more time for this stuff. I've already wasted too many calories on you in my life and it hasn't benefitted my a single bit.

Don't drink
No tattoos
No piercings
Never put a cigarette in my mouth
Don't use drugs

Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything or is it just a comfortable habit by now?


Anyway... back to work...

Legal must not be a problem. OK experienced shooters is good, who did you use?

Getting away from running the empire. :upsidedow


I flew to CZ to meet some people in Prague with my manager and basically just to unwind. We drove to Brno for 2 days to meet you and talk to you about the possibility of shooting solo girl sets.

And you then decided to spend the rest of the day with me.

So bad models were happy to work there. And magazines were buying the sets shot on the IKEA furniture.

And you decided to spend the rest of the day with me.

And you decided to subject Yulia to my vileness for the rest of the day.

And you decided to spend the rest of the day with me.
And I'm still around.

The sites that are still open and yours are not. The TGPs are a lie. Prove it.

No one in porn pays that for a studio.
And you decided to spend the rest of the day with me.

So you didn't have the balls to make a polite decline so subjected yourself to wasting more time with this vile man.
Lies. She stayed the night with us while we were shooting her. She woulld of been there with us. Girls from Prague often stayed with us over night.

Why did you waste your time? Eva didn't ask you.
Chicken and pasta?????? Your words.
so why didn't we do loads of custom work? Eva had a lot more to do than shoot cheap sets for you. Lies.

Got the email or we have to rely on your word?

You're not the man to hold your tongue. Business dying. Lies, Eva and I went to Thailand and all of us went to the US, I went on my own to the US as well. Dying, been 8 years in the dying.

Thread for proof please.
Yes and I was not shooting your cheap crap.

Which seems strange.
And still call you a liar, nothing changed.

It seems my vilenaess and you subjecting it on yourself for the day had more effect on you. Than you had on me.


Yes and it seems you hung out with me all day to discuss it.

See signature for what I did produce,.

So you won't reply with verifiable proof of who you did use to shoot the sets, the luxurious studio he owns, his greatness as a porn producer. Or what you actually do today.

You are still full of lies and only you believe them.

Vile person who you decided wasn't good for you, but wasted the day with instead of leaving him in the coffee shop or was it a supermarket, as you said before. No need to even meet Eva and see the studio, just call it off there and then.

Going broke in 2004 and still in business in 2012.

You are full of lies.

Paul, if you never tried a TGP, why do you have a TGP?

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tgp/...netration.html

Not another lie, surely?

Is this a site squealer was able to upload images to?

Been doing a search on this clown.

He was around in 2004 posting. Nothing of interest and I found nothing about business or his business. Then returned in 2006 with block busters like this. https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=9303763&postcount=24 and https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=9322494&postcount=80 Which seem to be his style then.

Then in 2006 he took a massive break till 2011 and came back transforming from a little joking nobody, to a massive trolling nobody.

His info lists camgirls.com, 2257 info tells us it's

Custodian of Records:

Rena Erotocritou
c/o Streamates Limited
Ariel Secretaries Limited
196, Arch Makarios Avenue, Ariel Corner
1st Floor, Office 102, #57528
3316 Limassol - Cyprus
Fax: (US) 1-206-441-2794

Is he the boss, toilet janitor or a gay webcam model. One thing is for sure, we will never know.

what we do know is he's the type of man who will subject girls to the most vile verbal abuse and himself to wasting time for no reason what so ever. How do we know this? He told us. :1orglaugh

So back the the thread. I have found ways to track the offenders and will be giving out the info I find to people using it. Except I will be going to England very shortly on family business and that will put a gap in the work.

Here's information. He works on a Saturday. From his office in Cyprus or his Mum's basement? :1orglaugh