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If you don't have a problem whatsoever hiring these kind of people i wonder what else as a company you don't have problems.
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i hear some ex enron people are looking for jobs, maybe you can hire some of them too. |
"birds of a feather flock together" is true for a very simple reason.
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Before we hired Tam, she was upfront about the fact that in the eyes of a lot of people she had let them down, led them to a company that proved out to be terrible in the end (despite how little she knew about it herself) and that GFY would be against her. We asked her what she knew about the situation and her involvement. We made it clear to her that if she worked for us, We would only accept the highest standards in support to her affiliates, ethics in how she treats everyone and beyond all transparency in what she does while working with us. I made it clear that if she shows even a iota of going against the grain and not doing things right for our affiliates (with which we pride ourselves in having a perfect track record), it would be the end of it. She said she was ready to make things right, she was eager to get back to business and being able to do what she's good at in a positive environment. She said she could bring sales, she said she was eager to make things right with her affiliates. She takes ownership of her actions, and she wants to make things right. As far as the past, that's all We can ask her for. With that said, everyone who already does business with us intrinsically actually know what we do, how we are with our people, and our affiliates; they know that whatever happens, we're there for them and whatever they need, we want to make it available for them. That's how we started 15 years ago, that's how we grew the company, that's how we became successful and that's how we'll still be here long from now. I'm not worried about how our company reflects from hiring Tam, and that's not why I wrote two long replies because I believe in everything we have done all those years [for the record, I only write long replies because that's a bad habit and those who know me have learned that I often take 5 pages to say something hehehe]. But sometimes, People need to know that we're there for them and that we believe in them. Mr is MR, Stunner is Stunner, and Tam works for Stunner now. |
holy shit... another program to write off the list.
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And another huge ass reply which means absolutely nothing if you look at the facts. Give it up dude. All those words aren't gonna change the fact what lowlife scum she is.
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People who defend Tam and her actions should put on the same shitlist where she belongs.
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My only experience with Tam was when I was an affiliate of Media Revenue. I had payment issues and she went above and beyond to assist me in a very professional manner while other fucking idiots were more concerned about making deals 24/7.
I'm now a former affiliate of Media Revenue, I despise their tactics, and I was banned for making comments about them banging cards before AVN took over GFY. All I'm saying is Tam is very good at what she does. She bends over backwards to help affiliates. You wouldn't walk into Walmart and cuss out an employee for that company's questionable business practices. Why? Because they're just employees and have absolutely no input in that company's decision making process. |
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Really bad PR move in my opinion.
An affiliate manager needs to forge relationships with affiliates. All the affiliates here know how far they can trust Tam to steer them straight, whether it was by willful blindness or just regular ignorance that she parroted the lies at MR for so long. If you want to hire her put her in a non-public facing position at least. While I have no reason to think badly of your program, this makes me wonder. Oh, and PS. for all the talk of "making things right" of course Tam is doing nothing of the sort. |
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Just because you got treated nicely doesn't mean she did some really bad things. This is just like saying that a scammer is a nice person because he bought you a beer at a convention. You people should think before you defend her. |
I'm sure the affiliate email list she grabbed on the way out the door will always be worth something to someone :winkwink:
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Standahead, Is it true that you were for sale within the last few years? Did you sale or acquire any "partners"?
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lol @ ruining your business in one thread
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I know Tam from PCBBS - fourteen years ago. Maybe more. I received no help from her, no resolution to my problems with NOT getting paid buy one of her recent employers, but I do not blame her personally. Paying me was probably not one of her responsibilities. I doubt that Tam had enough influence over her bosses to force them to pay me. When I requested payment, all she could have done was ignore me, or pay me out of her own pocket. She ignored me. Same thing that I would have done... When you work online for other people, you take what you can get and you hope for the best. People like Tam get hired all the time to sit on the boards and publically represent companies that are, perhaps, less than honest. Maybe. just maybe, Tam is not a thief. Maybe she just needs to pay the rent / mortgage, put food on her table, and buy clothes for her kids. Maybe she wants some kind of benefit package. Secure job offers are very hard to turn down - particularly in this business. I honestly do not think that Tam is going out of her way to fuck people over. She wants to make a living. I have no idea, though. Maybe I'm blinded by that old PCBBS magic. I do not think that Tam is maliciously going from company to company, advising them on how to rip of surfers and webmasters. P.S. Standahead: Aubrey Rose! Right? Am I right? That was so long ago... |
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Or are you just jumping up and down all naked and shit, screaming "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I'M FUCKING FRANNNNNCCCCKKKK! WOOT! WATCH MY BALLS WIGGLE! YEEHA!" You're killing the messenger. The disease still spreads. |
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Who cares about Tam if you don't want to deal with her go to the owners I am positive they will take care of you:thumbsup.
Bottomline is StunnerMedia has an incredible network of gay sites that blows most other competitors to Mars. If you're not pushing your gay traffic to them you are seriously missing out on cash period. |
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A lot of people end up with for/with companies who turn out to be shit heads. I've had it happen a few times, but not once did I know BEFORE I started working for them. You always find out AFTER. That's the way it works. You go where the money is and if things go sour, you leave when you can. Not much else you can do. |
oh come on ... i have been showing her proofs two years ago. trust your boss or whoever, if boss have only words and someone have proofs, black on white, who the fuck you trust? it was not like some few bucks, it was seriously credit card banging, and not talking about affilite shaving. if those accustations come, would you trust your boss who say all is fine? come on, she have been on the boat with all others, she is guilty same as their ex employers, nothing else to say, howgh!
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Proof would be to record the entire process, from the join, to the login, to the cancel. THEN show your statement after you can prove you did not miss any xsales and did not click on any 1-click upgrades. Simply having charges on your statement is sadly not enough proof of anything. However, documenting the entire process A - Z, is a slam dunk. I'm actually surprised no one here has done that with any of the companies accused of such behavior. Such evidence could not be disputed. |
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A video doesn't lie. Screen shots and statements don't mean much. That would have been your slam dunk. :2 cents: I don't know if you got banged or not, I'm just saying you went about documenting it wrong. Done properly, that documentation could have quite an impact. I think it was EscortBiz who started a review site, doing exactly this, video documenting the process, but it didn't seem to go anywhere. I'm sure they found all sorts of shit on some companies. Anyone remember the site, or if it's still live? |
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I'm also not saying what you documented isn't true, I'm saying you should have done it better. If you or someone else is going to go through the hassle, go all out. If you don't give someone wiggle room, they can't wiggle. |
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