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Nasty 08-27-2012 07:10 PM

6tg, disk error and fsck would have resulted in downtime no matter where you were hosted at

Jay - SMASH 08-27-2012 07:13 PM

ISPRIME or REFLECTED :thumbsup

ladida 08-27-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19148402)
Reply from Zak on Skype basically told me to go fuck myself and could care less how long the server is down for.


Never seen anything like this before. BTW this server alone is over $1k+ a month.

I've been saying that for well over a year about the dude. He's got SERIOUS temper issues. I can't believe he manages to host anything, but oh well, guess he still manages to suck up to some clients.

Zuzana Designs 08-27-2012 07:42 PM

I have had a server with yellowfiber for the over 5 years and never had a problem. Zak has always been there anytime I needed anything.

xXXtesy10 08-27-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19148894)
I've been saying that for well over a year about the dude. He's got SERIOUS temper issues. I can't believe he manages to host anything, but oh well, guess he still manages to suck up to some clients.

Judging by his responses here, he is a fucking asshole too :1orglaugh

ladida 08-27-2012 07:48 PM

Well thats the thing. Downtime happens, disk problems happen, anything happens, but the attitude he brings with that is always amazing :P I'm not sure have you ever worked with him (or tried), but i knew he'd be raging over this on ghost like its ghost's fault :) It's so typical zak :) Well, at least you can always have a laugh on his temper tantrums on boards :)

Spudstr 08-27-2012 07:54 PM

You just can't make everyone happy it seems. In some views your fine, in others your the asshole. Contrary to what some believe we do have a great product. And still 90% of our sales come from referrals so we must be doing something right. The first negative thread in 6 years? I am fine with that, and it wasn't even something that was within our control. Whats more hilarious is its the same people over and over again trolling the forums constantly ragging on my organization when most of these people i have never directly done business with nor ever talked to.

There are always two sides to every story, you can beat things into the ground as much as you want, but if you can't understand the technical reasons to why things happen then people are at fault as well. I wish there was a magic wand that magically fixed things in a instant.. that would sure make my staffs life a lot easier.

Spudstr 08-27-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19148915)
Well thats the thing. Downtime happens, disk problems happen, anything happens, but the attitude he brings with that is always amazing :P I'm not sure have you ever worked with him (or tried), but i knew he'd be raging over this on ghost like its ghost's fault :) It's so typical zak :) Well, at least you can always have a laugh on his temper tantrums on boards :)

I'm growing tired of your shit slinging on my company and making false accusations about situations which you are not part nor do you have any insight on. You will find yourself on the receiving side of a letter from our legal team. And yes, they are very good at what they do. Consider this your last and final warning.

ladida 08-27-2012 08:03 PM

Lol what? Here we go, are you going to explode now or what?

What "false accusations" have i made? I'm commenting on your temper, which is quite clear and seen in almost any of your posts. But please, let me know what "false accusations" have i made against your company, im very curious about that.

6South 08-27-2012 08:08 PM

Really the important question is why are you having to run fsck on a 6TB volume in the first place? Having to run it at all indicates something seriously hit the shit, why is your server crashing so badly it's corrupting the file system?

6TB on a single machine is NOT a big deal though, I have machines with double that amount of data on them up for years with no issues. I've had to replace failed drives, rebuilt RAID arrays, etc but I've never had one down for hours running fsck.

I'd recommend adding a SAN or NAS to your setup given the amount of data though, at least you'd be on a platform that can resume service without a 6 hr file rebuild short of someone dropping a bomb on the server. A network storage system w/ replication would be your best bet in terms of ending downtime issues.

Spudstr 08-27-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19148943)
Lol what? Here we go, are you going to explode now or what?

What "false accusations" have i made? I'm commenting on your temper, which is quite clear and seen in almost any of your posts. But please, let me know what "false accusations" have i made against your company, im very curious about that.


You are a smart person, I am sure you are more than capable of figuring it out.

anexsia 08-27-2012 08:10 PM

I live really close to Yellow Fiber :)

papill0n 08-27-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19148951)
I live really close to Yellow Fiber :)

i have a shirt with some yellow fibers in it

selena 08-27-2012 08:13 PM

Talk to Brad at Mojohost.

You won't be sorry.

And I don't need my ref link to tell you that.

Spudstr 08-27-2012 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6South (Post 19148947)
Really the important question is why are you having to run fsck on a 6TB volume in the first place? Having to run it at all indicates something seriously hit the shit, why is your server crashing so badly it's corrupting the file system?

6TB on a single machine is NOT a big deal though, I have machines with double that amount of data on them up for years with no issues. I've had to replace failed drives, rebuilt RAID arrays, etc but I've never had one down for hours running fsck.

I'd recommend adding a SAN or NAS to your setup given the amount of data though, at least you'd be on a platform that can resume service without a 6 hr file rebuild short of someone dropping a bomb on the server. A network storage system w/ replication would be your best bet in terms of ending downtime issues.

We suspect the problem is actually related to r1soft while performing hot copy/snapshots for backups on creating a larger than 2tb "back up chunk". If you want more information on how r1soft does its backups I can point you to their documentation. R1softs backup software only works with ext3 file systems, so using XFS file systems.. which is preferred on large file systems could not be backed up via r1soft due to the drivers that r1soft integrates into the kernel. Sadly Ext3/4 are both journalized file systems... and can be hell if you have to check the file system. Most file system errors that are easy to get resolved in these cases are due to inode issues/duplication which are easy to be fixed once the system boots into a single user mode and has access to the spindles to basically de-dupe the duplicate inodes.

A SAN.. stil doesn't help file systems, a SAN is just a storage level object that resides on a network, the access to the spindles is still block level. The file system still sits on top of this level.

A NAS.. same thing unless your talking a proprietary file system thats under the network storage protocol of NFS.. such as Netapp or, ZFS for Solaris or EMC's file system. Otherwise your just using a linux box with somesort of ext/xfs file system under a network protocol.

Spudstr 08-27-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19148951)
I live really close to Yellow Fiber :)

We are hiring, or come by our office and visit :)

ladida 08-27-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 19148949)
You are a smart person, I am sure you are more than capable of figuring it out.

Yea, i am. It's why i know you're just raging now because you can't control yourself. You're just hoping that mentioning "legal" would for some reason make me stop talking, which is funny.


Why do you think i, or anyone who said you have temper problems came in here to say it? I have a fetish for making up crap about you? Out of nowhere, i'd make stuff up? No, i'd make shit up about other people also, which would be evident in my posts. I had the displeasure of having to try and deal with you for a client and it was the worst experience i encountered in 10 years working in adult. I don't understand how you think such things would not surface eventually. Also, if i was making stuff up, i'd be the only person saying these things, which i clearly am not (or maybe you're paranoid so you think i'm all those nicks also)? So yea, whenever someone mentions they encountered temper issues with you, i'll chime in and say i had the same experience, because i have.

Better work on your temper problems then make false legal threats.

AliGbone 08-27-2012 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19148320)
webair . up for years .................

I second that.. They have kept me up for years now. All the bs u see about them on gfy are $2 virtual accounts that complain about not knowing how to send email ..give them a shot they wont disappoint.

martinsc 08-27-2012 09:11 PM

www.CertifiedHosting.com aka Naked Hosting :thumbsup :thumbsup

GAMEFINEST 08-27-2012 09:19 PM

mojohost.com

to the fullest.

teeheiman 08-27-2012 09:47 PM

Our servers fly at mojo!

glowlite 08-27-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19148340)
I have our mission critical servers at Cyberwurx already. Great support :thumbsup

+1 Marty

rowan 08-27-2012 11:06 PM

I had a similar problem with excessive fsck times under FreeBSD because I had 100 million plus files on it (mostly small thumbnails). My server would be down for at least 2-3 hours after a crash, sifting through all of those files to find and correct errors. At the time my server was crashing because of a bug with FreeBSD's soft updates causing a panic (the *nix version of a blue screen of death) so those 2-3 hours of downtime each time started accumulating at an alarming rate.

I fixed that nasty boot delay by enabling journalling, which removes the need for a mandatory single-user mode fsck after a crash has caused file system damage. There may still be unwritten data and indirect corruption leading to some weird things happening at the application level, but the file system itself is intact, so the OS boots in seconds rather than hours.

I don't know if there's a similar solution available for Linux's journalling file systems. :pimp

janosik 08-27-2012 11:27 PM

I have been with Mojohost for years and never had a single problem with them.

xXXtesy10 08-27-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 19148931)
I'm growing tired of your shit slinging on my company and making false accusations about situations which you are not part nor do you have any insight on. You will find yourself on the receiving side of a letter from our legal team. And yes, they are very good at what they do. Consider this your last and final warning.

:1orglaug:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh: 1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DamageX 08-27-2012 11:34 PM

Gotta love all the idiots recommending other hosts, especially the hosts who jumped in to recommend themselves. Especially since Brad already posted this was not the fault of the host and would've been no different at any other host, given the circumstances.

Just reminds me how much waste of human DNA GFY is.

AdultEUhost 08-27-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19149149)
Gotta love all the idiots recommending other hosts, especially the hosts who jumped in to recommend themselves. Especially since Brad already posted this was not the fault of the host and would've been no different at any other host, given the circumstances.

Just reminds me how much waste of human DNA GFY is.

Actually that is not entirely true, as Zak stated they are using R1Soft which limits them into using ext2/ext3. Another host might use a different backup solution and possibly a different filesystem (at least one which doesn't require fsck).

Anyway, he was quickly back online again which is the most important.

DamageX 08-27-2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 19149154)
Actually that is not entirely true, as Zak stated they are using R1Soft which limits them into using ext2/ext3. Another host might use a different backup solution and possibly a different filesystem (at least one which doesn't require fsck).

Anyway, he was quickly back online again which is the most important.

You missed the "given the circumstances" part of my post. :)

epitome 08-28-2012 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliGbone (Post 19148985)
I second that.. They have kept me up for years now. All the bs u see about them on gfy are $2 virtual accounts that complain about not knowing how to send email ..give them a shot they wont disappoint.

I used those old hair club for men commercials where the guy would say something like I am not only the president, I am also a client.

London Banker 08-28-2012 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 19149154)
Actually that is not entirely true, as Zak stated they are using R1Soft which limits them into using ext2/ext3. Another host might use a different backup solution and possibly a different filesystem (at least one which doesn't require fsck).

Anyway, he was quickly back online again which is the most important.

Zak doesn't know (or care?) how to properly setup a disk/filesystem.
When we suggested a better way to do it, he completely ignored it, saying that he knew better.

He's got some serious megalomania issues.

ladida 08-28-2012 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19149149)
Gotta love all the idiots recommending other hosts, especially the hosts who jumped in to recommend themselves. Especially since Brad already posted this was not the fault of the host and would've been no different at any other host, given the circumstances.

Just reminds me how much waste of human DNA GFY is.

Did you ever get to work with zak? He's mr. knowitall don't tell me anything. If you did, then i guess you haven't went against his "advice".
Quote:

Originally Posted by London Banker (Post 19149258)
Zak doesn't know (or care?) how to properly setup a disk/filesystem.
When we suggested a better way to do it, he completely ignored it, saying that he knew better.

He's got some serious megalomania issues.

Haha yea, he knows everything best and if you question it, he starts to fume. Even when it's evident he does not.

Spudstr 08-28-2012 04:45 AM

I find this entertaining the same two trolls keep posting and bringing up how much I? Or my company sucks at our job.

Typically problems when we have someone who doesn't like how we operate. I am sorry London that you think how we setup servers and manage them and in your eyes is wrong. This is always the case when we get someone who wants a server setup their way but forget what the term managed means.

CamTraffic 08-28-2012 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19149149)
Gotta love all the idiots recommending other hosts, especially the hosts who jumped in to recommend themselves. Especially since Brad already posted this was not the fault of the host and would've been no different at any other host, given the circumstances.

Just reminds me how much waste of human DNA GFY is.

Yet you keep coming back every day for more :winkwink:

London Banker 08-28-2012 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 19149406)
This is always the case when we get someone who wants a server setup their way but forget what the term managed means.

Then don't get your panties in a twist when customers complain about constantly failing disks and downtimes because of your "management".

Spudstr 08-28-2012 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by London Banker (Post 19149415)
Then don't get your panties in a twist when customers complain about constantly failing disks and downtimes because of your "management".

Ok, what was your name or email again or client id then?

ladida 08-28-2012 05:03 AM

Lol same 2 trolls.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054751

Just in this thread there's more then 2 people, and if i was actually bothered enough to go through gfy threads, in every there's 1 or 2 more people commenting the bad service, attitude by you, or something similar.


So now that someone suggests something on a "managed" box you say they don't understand what "managed" means, but once that same "managed" box goes down, it's the customer that doesn't understand it had to be that way.

Nice nice.

Spudstr 08-28-2012 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 19149425)
Lol same 2 trolls.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054751

Just in this thread there's more then 2 people, and if i was actually bothered enough to go through gfy threads, in every there's 1 or 2 more people commenting the bad service, attitude by you, or something similar.


So now that someone suggests something on a "managed" box you say they don't understand what "managed" means, but once that same "managed" box goes down, it's the customer that doesn't understand it had to be that way.

Nice nice.

You have a real hate passion for us. I am finding your hate threads since 2009 against us. Its almost like you wait for the words yellow fiber to appear so you can keep posting about us. We have our first real obsessed fan it seems.

seeandsee 08-28-2012 05:38 AM

cyberwurx support is amazingly good!

Matyko 08-28-2012 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19148322)
Get the fuck out of here. Anything other than webair.

MojoHost.com
There's no flawless hosting, but they are pretty good. The support, especially during the US office hours is good. :2 cents:

ladida 08-28-2012 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 19149438)
You have a real hate passion for us. I am finding your hate threads since 2009 against us. Its almost like you wait for the words yellow fiber to appear so you can keep posting about us. We have our first real obsessed fan it seems.

Must be it. Hope you found other people aside from "2 same trolls" also in those threads, or did the selective reading kick in?


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