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aren't you in finance? |
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I tought that was the exclusivity of the private entrerprises, mainly with the trickle down following tax cuts ....:warning |
What's America? Run way ?
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All this talk of equal shares makes me think of communism
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We had the Poll Tax flat rate per capita local government tax here in the UK. Didn't end well
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try to remember that on the internet there are many people from many lands yay for sesame street ! |
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As far as Health care, I have not lost any cred on that, I'm still right. Your calling what I'm saying dumb without having knowledge of whats going on... really? Dude, you know me. Call me on the phone or send a msg. I have no problem talking to you and letting you know what I'm talking about. Quote:
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The argument about "the rich use more of the commons" you are saying that means that they employ people and buy goods (labor and resources)? Isn't that a GOOD thing? And for that..everybody thinks that they should not only pay more in actual dollars (MUCH more...even with a flat tax)...but people think that the percentage should be progressive so that they are paying far more than they should ever pay? I don't get it guys. I just wasn't raised that way I guess. I see the world a bit differently than y'all do. And no, I'm not attacking anybody. I'm just saying that in my world view....EVERYBODY would contribute equally to society. And yes...we would all help the people who needed a "safety net". The govt. is just simply out of control with spending in my opinion. And the arguments in favor or our progressive tax rates are just plain out nuts to me. Can you imagine, for instance, a strip club where one of the girls hustles harder and is just plain out better than the other girls...so she makes more tips. But at the end of the night the club would punish her by forcing her to give more money on her payout? Bitches would revolt in the strip clubs! LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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That's the part of this whole class warfare argument that is never brought up. Back when I was making $50,000 a year I NEVER actually paid the assigned tax rate I was supposed to pay. I took every deduction I could and squeezed out every last write off I could. What's needed is a chart that shows what people REALLY pay. All those people in lower incomes do NOT actually pay their tax rate either. This whole argument is such a joke. Fact is people who actually make real money pay almost all the taxes in this country. Yet they don't get any more "services" from the govt. than anybody else. They just pay more. I pay more money in taxes...more than most of you. And I can flat out tell you that I don't get anything more than any of you do (talking infrastructure...because I have NEVER gotten any kind of "assistance" from the govt. EVER) |
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can it be? I agree with you everyone hide!:upsidedow |
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Fees you pay your accountant to prepare your taxes are deductible. The fees you pay to a broker for your retirement plan are deductible. The mileage you put on your car driving to see the financial adviser handling your 401 or IRA fund is deductible. People do it all the time. NOBODY pays the exact rate that is listed on those charts. The cheapest tax software on the market will instantly lower that for you by showing you deductions you can take. There's a reason people who are employees get "tax refund" checks at the end of the year. (something I, of course have never seen because I've always worked for myself). |
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Careful, you'll wear out that back-patting arm. Did you go to public school? Did your employees? Does your business utilize the government-created internet? Do you have a corporation or LLC that shields you from personal liability? Have you ever litigated in a taxpayer-funded court of law? Is your money in a bank protected by the FDIC? I don't know what your business is. I don't care. You didn't become a success without some help along the way. Nobody does. We are all a part of a society. Get over yourself. Anytime you want to give all your money away, you too, can live the good life that poor people now enjoy with their low taxes. Being poor sucks. You won't find a poor person that wouldn't rather have money - even if it meant higher taxes. We've got 311,592,000 people in America. Not all of them can be rich. If you're hanging on to that fantasy, it's long past time to give it up. Quote:
So it's pretty gross to hear rich people complain about taxes. Who should pay the bulk of the taxes? The poor who are struggling to get out of poverty? http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...74970726_n.jpg |
Hypothetically, if I had personal net income (before tax sheltering) of $3 million a year and my total taxes were $1.05 million (35% current to marginal bracket) I would have 1.95 million left for me -- alligator tears -- tough to live on $1.95 Million a year. |
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Look man...public schools are paid for in LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES. Nothing to do with Federal income tax. Once you grow up and own your own home you'll discover that. The internet? Not that again...that was created for the military. PRIVATE businesses turned it into something for the entire world to use. What the fuck does paying federal income tax have to do with my LLC and personal liability? The FEDERAL income tax does NOT pay for my local court of law. Local taxes do. You are one ignorant and uninformed person. Which puts you in the majority. No, I'm not calling you "stupid". You obviously are not. But you are definitely ignorant and uninformed. Finally...you said: "I don't know what your business is" Really? Hint: I'm in the porn industry. DUH! This forum is SUPPOSED to be for people in the adult porn industry. Maybe you are in the wrong place if you don't know what people on here do for a living. |
successful people must pay losers' bills. Just look:
if you work hard and earn a lot you are being punished and made to pay for some lazy bastard who is doing nothing and gets rewarded for doing nothing. |
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Point is...it's YOUR money. Not the govt. You earned it. And trust me my friend...if you had to write a 1 million dollar check to the federal govt. for them to waste and funnel back to their buddies in their home states and fund more wars and military...you would NOT be happy about it. If you are like any normal person, you want what is yours. And you want to give it to your children and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Not saying we shouldn't pay any taxes. I'm just saying that you going on about how rich people already "have enough" is pure class warfare at it's worst. It's THEIR money. Let them live their lives without being forced to give even more of it to CROOKED politicians. What the fuck has happened to people's minds? Since when did everybody start thinking that the Federal govt. is all rainbows and fucking unicorns and so nice and benevolent? Don't ANY of you watch the news? The majority of our tax money goes to killing people all over the world and congressmen funneling it back to their henchmen in their home states. A very SMALL bit goes to actually helping the poor. Wake the fuck up! Career politicians do NOT have your best interest at heart. |
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[D]id you go to public school? |
Actually federal funds do go to state education. You are mistaken. Google is your friend :)
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I guess I must be nuts -- I don't feel that I am deprived of my wealth after paying my taxes. |
I just spit beer out my nose lol
Best troll thread in a long time. |
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My point is...the U.S. govt. is spending 7 MILLION DOLLARS per MINUTE. That is insane. Way too much on the military. We have a colossus military, but there is no real war we are fighting. And there is no enemy for all those ships and planes and nuclear missiles and military bases. If my money were being spent to build roads (which it isn't...state and local taxes AND the national gasoline tax does) or actually fund the local schools (it's not) or help the poor (tiny sliver of it)...then that would be one thing. But the reality is they are spending 7 million dollars a minute on foreign aid, military spending, congressmen taking trips and having a huge staff and free health care for life, and a monstrosity of bureaucracy as well as corruption and funneling money back to their cronies. The Federal budget this year (2012) is 2.252 TRILLION dollars! (of which 1.1 trillion is DEFICIT spending). Think about that. A billion dollars is a thousand million. A trillion is a thousand billion dollars. There were 42 million total people in poverty in 2010. If you broke that down into families and just assumed that there are 3 people per family on average...that would be 14 million families. So if you took 2 trillion dollars of this years budget you could just straight out give 2 million families a million dollars each. Do that for 7 years and you just wiped out poverty and created 14 million Millionaire households. Sounds crazy...but guess what? Since 1965 when Johnson launched the "War On Poverty" we have spend over 10 TRILLION dollars. And poverty has went up anyway. Kinda like Nixon's "War On Drugs". lol My point is that the govt. takes your money and wastes it. They don't get it to the poor people who really need it. First it goes to pay bureaucrats salaries and offices and expenses...then a lot of it gets skimmed through corruption. I would rather pay just enough taxes for our govt. to just be able to do what it has to do. No more, no less. If our country has decided to help the poor...then let's really do it and not spend one dime more than is needed. 7 million dollars a minute they are spending. Don't you think that's way out of line? |
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Sounds like he got a little more than I ever will. |
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perhaps, friend, you should try reading that story from a less biased source like, HOW romney 'convinced' the government |
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But we are not all equal.
Some of us work harder than others, and are properly rewarded. Right now I'm on vacation and I just spent the past two hours working. I make good money and I don't pay jack fucking shit in taxes. Why should someone working eighty hours a week making french fries pay more in taxes than me? At some point in time you need to apply common sense here. Someone who makes $40k a year shouldn't be paying more in taxes than someone making $500k. |
more tax for the rich
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Did you read the article you linked by any chance? |
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I was a building contractor for 13 years, specializing in stone masonry work, and won a lot of bids to apply stone masonry veneers to road bridges. Many of the bridges on state highways and even local roads are partially funded with Federal Revenue Sharing Funds -- I know this for fact as my subcontracts were subject to Davis-Bacon Act Federal prevailing wage requirements. All work you see done on Interstate Highways is Federally funded of course. |
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