Right. :thumbsup

Right. :thumbsup

How about just cut spending and bring our troops home and quit fighting wars everywhere when nobody has attacked us.

End the drug war. Stop pork barrel spending.

The govt. is spending 10.6 BILLION dollars per day. And borrowing almost 4 BILLION of that every damn day.

How can you justify such a thing?

We are not at war with anybody. Our country hasn't been invaded since the War of 1812. WE do the invading since then.

What is raising taxes on the wealthiest people by 4 or 5 % going to do? Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.

Not only that...but ALL of those wealthiest people (including Warren Hypocrite Buffet) make the majority of their money on Capital Gains. So sure...go ahead and raise the income tax rate. They still won't pay one thin dime more.

The whole premise is stupid and is designed for the Obama campaign to get a populist vote from people who just can't stand that somebody else has it better than them. It's class warfare plain and simple.

Cut the spending. How can anybody in this thread possibly justify 10.6 BILLION dollars a day in spending??? You can't. And none of you ever address it. You just stay on the Democrat talking points. And those against taxes stay on the Republican talking points. It's all deception.

The Feds are spending more money than I can even wrap my head around.

Isn't Romney supposed to be "filthy" rich? What's he worth..a couple hundred million dollars?
Well the Federal govt. is spending 6.85 million dollars PER MINUTE. Wrap your heads around that.

So in 29 minutes the federal govt. spends the same amount of Romney's entire wealth.

And Romney is the "filthy" rich one who didn't really "earn" his money? lol

NO! It's not rich people who are the problem. The feds are the filthiest and the richest.

When I was a little kid in the 60's and a teen in the 70's, my generation was taught to NEVER trust govt.
But it seems that the next generation just LOVES them some government. Sad. :(

I'd like some freedom
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/.

you don't pay more. you pay a pittance while Mitt pays millions.

Seems funny you worry about guys making over $250k but not about people whom make $30-50k. That big building you were showing off a month or two back that you bought for your business to grow in.. How many of the people whom work for in that new building, make over $250k?

Now of course I don't know your business, but I'd be willing to wager a hunch that your average employee that works for your company, isn't making over $50k a year, much less $250k. These guys working for you are probably pretty hard workers or at the very least dependable and allow your corporation to function and compete on the world market.

Now these workers of yours, most likely pay a higher tax rate and live on much lower wage than these people you are so worried about. Are you honestly trying to say that people making 250k a year couldn't afford to pay the same tax percentage as your own workers?

The workers that make it possible for your company to produce it's products?

true, so instead of hating on the people propping up your standard of living and demanding they pay even more for you, stop fucking around on the internet and get a job that will actually pay you money.

how ever much they earned.

go get a fucking job, scumbag.

You dumbasses are missing out on all that free foodstamp money by making more than 1200 bucks a month. Suckers. You could be pocketing a cool 200 bucks a month if you just cut back your hours. Thats how you game the system, not with your fancy millionaire tax loopholes and offshore .. thingies. Once we put a stop to that.. we achieve... dead poor people.

there's no need to pay you and your kind more money than you're worth just because you're too stupid to succeed.
the average HOUSEHOLD income in the US is $44k. If you had an ounce of intelligence you'd know that that number won't change by hurting the successful.
Its all you're worth kid.
get used to it

Earning 250k$ a year in US you can drive brand new ferrari and do not do any serious damage to your life style. So yeah its pretty rich. I can not imagine how could anyone spend 500K/year, thats definitely wealthy/rich zone.

I would like to see a guy driving a brand-new Ferrari every year on a $250k salary.

the perspective from the bottom is not that of reality.

WHAT???

A new Ferrari "California" model is $239,000.00 at the dealership here in Vegas.
http://www.penskewynnferrari.com/det...d-9040622.html

I was paying $1200 a month payments when I bought my 2007 corvette. It was around $70,000

So if I multiply those payments by 3 that would be a $3600 car payment per month. And THEN you have to get full coverage insurance. OUCH!

No...you could not earn $250,000 a year and buy a Ferrari and no do serious damage to your lifestyle.

Unless you lived in a rented singlewide trailer and didn't have any kids or a wife or pretty much any other expenses.

Wow. Some of you guys just have never made any money or even realize what it's like to live in the real world.

You didn't even include maintenance. :-)

Imagine the maintenance that would be required on a Ferrari when used as a daily driver. Which is what this $250k guy would definitely need to do.

And by the way...since NONE of you will address it:

What does it matter?

The rich will still make their money off of capital gains. So no matter how much you raise the income tax rates it won't matter one tiny bit.
It's all about class warfare and getting the populist vote from people who don't understand that.

And the govt. is SPENDING 10.6 BILLION DOLLARS PER DAY.

Remember the Bill Clinton saying in 1992: "It's the economy stupid".

Well in 2012 it should be: "It's the SPENDING stupid"

I had a buddy who had an old Porsche...and it had TITANIUM brakes! He spent thousands just replacing his brakes.

Yeah...no fucking way you are gonna drive a new or even USED Ferrari on $250k per year income

The minte & 12clicks "good cop, bad cop" routine at work. It is a thing of beauty.

The rest of you should be in awe.

There I fixed your mindless ranting for you..

hahahaha, don't project chump.
you're one of life's losers looking to get a pound of flesh from your betters.

when I was poor like you are, I never worried about what other people had or earned. I worried about what I had and earned. odd how you're still you but I've moved on.
you're trash.
you always will be.
thats the difference between success and failure.

Lol not a new ferrari every year. I meant you buy it on lease and drive for the next 5 or 10 years. Like Robbie said lease would be 3600$, so ok add everything to 50K year, ok 60, 70 whatever. Yo ustill have 180k/year to live on. Thats king like.

Somebody posted that average american HOUSEHOLD (not even individual) lives on 44k/year. So thats average living. After you lease a ferrari you still have 5 TIMES more than average household. Its not really even possible to spend that much, you would be buying real estate for investmenet here and there if you wanted to spend that amount.

moron, someone making $250k a year is paying about 75k in taxes. now he has 175k to spend.
as stated above, unless you live in a trailer or something similar, your lifestyle would have to change.
your 50k a year outlook is not correct

Ironic you say?

Whether $250K is rich or not is a pretty relative statement. A lot of it depends on where you live and what your life is like.

A single guy making $250K and living somewhere that has a very low cost of living could live a life that is very comfortable and feels "rich".

A guy who is married and has a few kids and lives in an expensive city like San Fran or New York might find $250K is barely enough to get by.

fool, even if thats 175k after taxes after leasing that ferrari you still have more money than 2 average households. I ma not saying that you have to buy ferrari, I am saying taht you can easily afford it and still have more money than 2 average households. Just a perspective to see what is 250k/year.

The difference between being a chump & being 12clicks is the chump knows when he is being trolled and 12clicks doesn't. I guess the other difference is I don't feel the need to brag about what I've done. I guess my dick is big enough and I'm happy with my life.. I can assume the opposite for yourself.

if trolling is your life's goal, you're a success. Most of us aspire to better.

what do you do for a living these days again?:1orglaugh

ah, no. you're wrong. as I said, imagining what you can buy with $250k a year is vastly different than what you can ACTUALLY buy.
and no, you never said, "aht you can easily afford it and still have more money than 2 average households"
you said you could afford it with no effect to your standard of living.

be about it before you talk about it. it makes you look less silly.
:thumbsup

i dont mind paying only if it works by doing so

It's class warfare to ask the rich to pay what they paid 12 years ago, but not class warfare to talk about cutting welfare benefits. Aint that a peach.

LOL, great comments.

What Minte doesn't understand is that he didn't build his business. His business was built on the work of his employees. If it wasn't for the people working for him he wouldn't be in business.

Minte wants us to tax him and his business less and put the bulk of the tax responsibility on the bulk of the people that barely clear $50k a year. Minte thinks if we tax him less he'll be encouraged to hire another person making $50k a year while he makes another $400k off of this new employee's work, which is pointless - Minte will still have money to blow no matter what.

Minte has it backwards. I don't hire and fire people based on tax breaks, but instead on need. If I need to hire two people to complete a task in six months I hire two people; I don't wait until it's going to be beneficial tax wise before hiring people. At the same time, if we double the amount of taxes Minte is paying and lower the taxes that his employees making $50k a year pay, chances are he'll still buy that fancy new car he was planning to buy and still take that vacation and all of his employees will be making more money and spending more money - which in turn generates more tax dollars and more money pumped into the economy. Win win.

its class warfare to ask your betters to pay something that 47% of you don't pay.

Great Post!
They have us fighting over a few dollars and percents, when none of that Matters.
What do you thin the Gov is going to do with the extra money it gets from raising the rates on the Rich??? I will tell you ......SPEND IT.

I stopped reading after this.

you're clueless.

there are billions of your kind on earth. very few mintes. With out the mintes of the world, you'd be busy picking thru your own shit for your next meal.

and with that, my visit to trollville is over.

its an ugly reminder to continue to do well.

Thanks for putting the troll in trollville. Come again.

I agree with you.

A $240k car with a sixth month loan is $4k a month BEFORE interest. This doesn't include insurance or maintenance, both of which are insane.

minte - a rich delusional fucktard so out of touch with reality his biggest drama his is 600 page mercedes manual - seriously - what a fuckin tool :1orglaugh

using the term betters is class warfare, troll.

what going is making poor people pay taxes they can't afford going to do anyways? its just going to make them even poorer. the ultra rich already view poor people as cannon fodder or peasants so why should poor people view the ultra rich in any good terms at all or want to do anything that benefits them? in the end they're still wage slaves. just because someone isn't smart enough or whatever life situations prevent them from being successful, be it self inflicted or other doesn't make them any less of a human being. in the end the rich need a good segment of population to be poor. society just wouldn't work as they need it to otherwise.

eventually co-oped business and factories could eliminate the need for people like minte.

Pubes or Dummycrats, their only goal is to enrich themselves, their families, and make sure they burrow so deep into the tax payer they remain in office as long as possible and make govt' bigger so they get more of everything.

Till you children come to that understanding you are just being played for idiots.