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jimmycastor 09-30-2012 04:09 AM

google is an excellent example of de-evolution , back in the 90ies, 2-3 guys with excellent ideas and skills made a decent algo,
now
5000 apes at google headquarters have great ideas and the algo becomes more and more shit.

AllAboutCams 09-30-2012 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Inter-Sex (Post 19218865)
May I ask, which stats program is this ?

statcounter.com

Inter-Sex 09-30-2012 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19218871)
statcounter.com

Thanks, does looks good. :)

e-god 09-30-2012 04:34 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself :error

nickutis 09-30-2012 04:35 AM

http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself

That's how I used to access GFY! Well no more! GFY works on gofuckyourself keyword and should be punished!!

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/gfy.jpg

RachelBlackG 09-30-2012 05:01 AM

Really messed up! Again..

Dirty F 09-30-2012 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218896)
http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself

That's how I used to access GFY! Well no more! GFY works on gofuckyourself keyword and should be punished!!

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/gfy.jpg


You realize you can type in an url in the address bar in your browser?

Denny 09-30-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218896)
http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself

That's how I used to access GFY! Well no more! GFY works on gofuckyourself keyword and should be punished!!

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/gfy.jpg

???

gofuckyourself.com redirects to gfy.com

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=400...kyourself.com&

Denny 09-30-2012 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218368)
looks like your only option is to build sites on unrelatedword.com/your-model-name :D

That's what google wants anyways :D

Bullshit

nickutis 09-30-2012 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19218927)
You realize you can type in an url in the address bar in your browser?

to type "gfy.com" and press enter takes you 2 seconds
to type "gfy" and press enter takes you 1 second

I don't know about you but I prefer spending that saved second on something else!

Oh and btw, if you have any sites with bookmarkers, you should see lot's of google traffic with your domain name without tld.. It's just an easier way to reach sites for some people, including me

nickutis 09-30-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19218932)
Bullshit

It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/lilly.jpg

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

Denny 09-30-2012 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218938)
It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/lilly.jpg

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

Are there any EMDs for that KW with a good backlink profile and quality content?

You still can benefit from EDMs but you need a good backlink profile and quality content.

An EMD, two incoming links and 10 shitty blog posts isn't enough for TOP10 ranking anymore.

nickutis 09-30-2012 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19218949)
Are there any EMDs for that KW with a good backlink profile and quality content?

You still can benefit from EDMs but you need a good backlink profile and quality content.

An EMD, two incoming links and 10 shitty blog posts isn't enough for TOP10 ranking anymore.

official site for this girl is EMD

Dirty F 09-30-2012 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218936)
to type "gfy.com" and press enter takes you 2 seconds
to type "gfy" and press enter takes you 1 second

Why do you forget to mention you then have to click the url with your mouse?

Dirty F 09-30-2012 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218938)
It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/lilly.jpg

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

This shit is ridiculous.

Denny 09-30-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218956)
official site for this girl is EMD

Well, but its backlink profile doesn't look good at all.

+ According to SEMrush it never had stable traffic from Google for its KW.

nickutis 09-30-2012 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19218957)
Why do you forget to mention you then have to click the url with your mouse?

when you go directly to gfy.com , you have to click on "Fucking around & program discussion" link

when you used to search for gfy, you click on the direct sitelink to "Fucking around & program discussion".

So it requires you same amount of clicks to reach this forum, but less time to type :) ..

Anyway I find it stupid from google to penalize EMD. Bing has no problems understanding what surfers are searching for

Slappin Fish 09-30-2012 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19218959)
This shit is ridiculous.

:2 cents::2 cents:

I have a site that actually gained traffic, it ranks for competitive KWs but doesn't rank for it's own name anymore :1orglaugh

For it's own low competition name it's on page 3 outranked by blogspot, scrappers, etc.

nickutis 09-30-2012 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19218962)
Well, but its backlink profile doesn't look good at all.

+ According to SEMrush it never had stable traffic from Google for its KW.

That's true.. But which you think is higher quality site? Dailymotion or official girls site?

Shouldn't google be able to determine it on its own? Bing has no problems determining that..

Dirty F 09-30-2012 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19218989)
:2 cents::2 cents:

I have a site that actually gained traffic, it ranks for competitive KWs but doesn't rank for it's own name anymore :1orglaugh

For it's own low competition name it's on page 3 outranked by blogspot, scrappers, etc.

What the hell were they thinking?

mce 09-30-2012 06:12 AM

Some funky positive traffic on some of my blogs lately. Gotta give it a few more days to settle down though.

Denny 09-30-2012 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218997)
That's true.. But which you think is higher quality site? Dailymotion or official girls site?

Shouldn't google be able to determine it on its own? Bing has no problems determining that..

Well, but those official girls sites are mostly pay-sites. Surfers don't want to pay for porn (most of them) and Google knows that. Anyway, it would rank better with a better link profile.

Slappin Fish 09-30-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19219006)
Well, but those official girls sites are mostly pay-sites. Surfers don't want to pay for porn (most of them) and Google knows that. Anyway, it would rank better with a better link profile.

If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

Don't want to go in too much detail but the site I mentioned before is outranked for the domain name by a ton of spammy youtube links and URL's that go something like this http://oy3i.trt4g.com/track/KEYWORD.html

Brujah 09-30-2012 06:47 AM

Google needs better competition.

Denny 09-30-2012 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219020)
If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

That's just your opinion.

...and If they search for an EMD they usually get it in #1.

Slappin Fish 09-30-2012 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19219028)
That's just your opinion.

So you are saying they are more interested in seeing a nonsensical spinned article complete gibberish than the official site riiiiight :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Denny 09-30-2012 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219047)
So you are saying they are more interested in seeing a nonsensical spinned article complete gibberish than the official site riiiiight :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Not sure if you even know what an EMD is. If you search for an EMD it should always rank #1 unless it's penalized or has no incoming links.

mineistaken 09-30-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19219028)
That's just your opinion.

...and If they search for an EMD they usually get it in #1.

Thats common sense, if you enter "model name" you should see official site at least on the first page. Otherwise it makes no sense. But to be honest I think that they do not check all keywords manually - if they are pornstar name or just some not branded EMD keyword.

Slappin Fish 09-30-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19219048)
Not sure if you even know what an EMD is. If you search for an EMD it should always rank #1 unless it's penalized or has no incoming links.

Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

Denny 09-30-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219063)
Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219020)
If they are searching for an EMD they might be interested in paying, or at least taking a look, if they weren't they would add "free" "tube" to their search.

EMD=modelname.tld

Denny 09-30-2012 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219063)
Did you not bother reading the thread title or are you thick?

I'll help you out "Google EMD ALGO UPDATE". Since the 29th EMDs are being penalized, not just losing their advantage but actually penalized, it's what I'm seeing and it is what every webmaster is reporting in thousands of posts around forums. Sure if an EMD has tons more inbound links than the competition it will keep the top spot but that is now in spite of it's name. With equal back link EMDs now rank lower than non-EMDs. Get it?

That's just not true. There is no way Google would penalize an EMD just becaus it's EMD.

Slappin Fish 09-30-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19219087)
That's just not true. There is no way Google would penalize an EMD just becaus it's EMD.

From Matt Cutt's blog : https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

Every single serious webmaster forum has posters seeing EMD's penalized.

But if you say it ain't so Denny I'll go with you, you are the only one who knows what he is talking about :helpme

e-god 09-30-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 19218928)
???

gofuckyourself.com redirects to gfy.com

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=400...kyourself.com&

Google should react to 301 redirect and pass the rankings.

Denny 09-30-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19219108)
From Matt Cutt's blog : https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/251789327691042816

Every single serious webmaster forum has posters seeing EMD's penalized.

But if you say it ain't so Denny I'll go with you, you are the only one who knows what he is talking about :helpme

Maybe we read diff. WM forums... many WMs feel they have quality original content and a good backlink profile. In fact, their backlink profile sucks (same money anchors etc.).

My EMDs survived, except two new ones, and I have to admit they have barely any incoming links to them. So far it seems I would benefit from this update (traffic is up) and there are many webmasters reporting the same.

e-god 09-30-2012 08:46 AM

The thing is that this algo tweak is not done yet, it slammed low quality EMDs but some got hit by mistake, so probably there will be another tweak soon after googlers will process the feedback of errors.

@Denny I agree with you about quality and link profile stuff. This update means that it won't be that easy to rank with good EMD domain only.

teeheiman 09-30-2012 09:52 AM

Trying to figure out why one of our sites (amateurporn.net) was hit so hard. We use to be #1 for "amateur porn" and now it cant be found.

Its a very competitive term, and even with this particular EMD it took us almost 2 years to rank it in google.

With high competition terms, its not that easy to rank .net EMDs high. With low volume EMDs I can get it to rank in a week.

Google shouldn't categorize both of these sites together with this update

I am hoping google will tweak a few things...

mineistaken 09-30-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by e-god (Post 19219231)
This update means that it won't be that easy to rank with good EMD domain only.

To be honest I do not think it was easy. I always ranked super easy for EMD keywords on yahoo/bing and I was not even in top30 on google. Most of my EMD's were #1 spots on bing and deep deep under on google.

baddog 09-30-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218896)
http://www.google.com/search?q=gofuckyourself

That's how I used to access GFY! Well no more! GFY works on gofuckyourself keyword and should be punished!!

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/gfy.jpg

Might have something to do with the fact that gofuckyourself.com is not the domain any more.


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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218936)
to type "gfy.com" and press enter takes you 2 seconds
to type "gfy" and press enter takes you 1 second

I don't know about you but I prefer spending that saved second on something else!

Except that just takes you to a SE, an additional step

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 19218938)
It's no bullshit .. Check SERPs

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/lilly.jpg

if you don't have your KW in domain name, that means you actually want to rank for that KW . It's a new google logic

jeez . . . yeah, you are right. Let your domains expire. I have lots that would not be EMDs if you want to buy some.

digitalfantasies 09-30-2012 11:52 AM

why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

baddog 09-30-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19219532)
why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

Don't believe everything you read on GFY


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