why would g0ogle do that? An EMD usually is exactly what the surfer is looking for...

is it because G0ogle likes to fuck me up the ass?

Why do you type Google like that?

I type: gfy forum

you're whole network is emd

Yes, we got hit hard...

Any plan of attack yet for getting back up in the serps?

Usually with these updates it takes a 7-10 days for things to smooth out afterwards, so you never know you might get lucky and see some kind of improvement. Did you see much effect from panda/penguin updates before this?

another blow to thin sites

Yes, we did great in the past updates. First time our sites have ever been hit, and its not even content/website related!

But whats very unusual, a few of our non EMD sites got hit too.

We will be adjusting a few things in the next coming weeks, but its starting to look like all google cares about again is a shit tone of spammy links!

That's gotta hurt big time...

hahaha fail

stupid cunt

Any one else got hit also in non-emd sites? This is my case and also this is reported by other folks, on mainstream seo forums. My guess is that google devaluated links coming from low-quality sites.

so they've not just removed any advantage of an emd, they've applied a penalty for it? that's just stupid, there's already been loads of algo changes to take into account spam, poor quality/dupe content, backlinks etc. if the sites poor and not relevant they can determine that from bounce rate and time on site etc. just because it?s an emd doesn't make it a shitty site and not relevant usually it?s the reverse.

this penalty was completely unnecessary and i think its just to push more people into using adsense. it would be interesting to see if there's any correlation between these algo changes and an increase in their adsense revenue.

What makes you think for one second that they removed "any advantage of an emd?" Because you read it on GFY?

anyone seen a jump in traffic

Still early, but I have noticed better SERPs; just not sure I want to attribute it to the EMD update. Could be coincidental.

you can read about on every webmaster/seo forum and from my own experience as well that its had a huge negative impact.

This is like the facebook private message joke you see one person post it and everyone has it

what are you wittering on about? matt cutts has confirmed it, just because it hasn't affected you doesn't mean its not true.

if you search google for "all about cams" "allaboutcams" and even allaboutcams.com you're no where to be found lol, so either you've been affected too or were never ranking anyway.

Well, if Matt said it, it must be true . . . . gotta link?

EMD's are highy relative but not necessarily valuable sources of content. I know of a ton of EMD's that are just banner farms. And mainstreamers crank out longtail EMD's like no tomorrow.. all stuffed with spun content, etc.

I'm personally leaning toward the opinion that this isn't an EMD penalty as much as it's just a removal of the natural boost that used to be given to them.

Strong EMD's are being left alone while weak ones are losing their rank.. it would make sense that this is because the bonus-for-being-relative thing was yanked.

just google it

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http://www.elite-strategies.com/wp-c...EMD-update.png

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You interpret that to mean that they removed any advantage of an EMD??

on those with low-quality content pages

It is the low quality, not the EMD that is being penalized. :2 cents:

they've already penalised loads of low quality/spammy sites in other recent updates, why have they brought EMD into it at all, if they can identify low quality sites that easily?

sure, i agree

Fine, have any EMD's you want to get rid of since they are worthless?

you didn't answer my question.

Like I work for them? How about, because it revealed even more low quality sites? Perhaps they want to eliminate all the low quality sites and EMD's gave them another can of worms to open.

why would it reveal more? if they can differentiate between low quality emd's and high quality emd's then they wouldn't need to apply it to just emd's they would apply to their whole index.

but as you say you don't work for them so you're guessing just like me.

Because even with low quality content the EMD's were getting an unnatural boost in the serps just by being an EMD. I do a lot with niche Adsense sites, and they are almost all .net and .org EMD's focusing on a longtail niche keyword. There were times when I would just install Wordpress on a domain and leave it empty until I could get around to posting content on it, and when I returned a few weeks later the EMD domain sitting on an empty Wordpress install with zero backlinks was already on the first page of Google.

It's going to be tough to 100% say what is happening for another week or two until the algo stabilizes, because it seems like a lot of sites with EMD's and quality content and backlinks were unfairly penalized, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if in another week or so they reclaim their rankings. But for the most part I have noticed that my EMD sites with quality content and backlinks were not penalized, while a bunch of niche EMD's sites I bought off BHW with crappy links and content were brutalized...

Trying to get a hold of you on ICQ, hit me up when you get a chance, please. 1566665.

It looks like my traffic is down around 30% - Ya cant fuckin win with google haha.. its so fucking annoying.

I have one EMD which i believe it the best site in its niche - There is not much competition at all, if i look at the results in google all the top results are utter crap, not what the surfer is looking for at all.

If i search bing and yahoo im the second or third site there.. which i should be. These updates are getting a bit silly, google is actually making their results crap.

I quit using all the messengers a while back, if you want send me an email maximumcheese ::AT:: gmail... :thumbsup

I feel your pain.........

but it's just time to adapt :winkwink::thumbsup

Hope you're right man, I took a rev hit from an EMD of mine that had a stable #3 rank for several months. I assumed it was collateral damage.

I am happy to see a few cybersquatters who got some .net or .org copy of our domains is gone from search results at least from first 3 pages. Good job google :)

This is why I've preferred to build based on a niche and brandable domain name versus an exact match domain or keyword. I've had a decent last two months but I'm afraid to say that I think trying to reach the 5k or 10k a month with 75 blogs isn't gonna happen. I need to have more faith I guess and just keep building or paying to get built. I'm convinced of I can find a way to make the surfer stick around longer I will be able to make at least 3-4k a month maybe. Still not done it yet tho. :-P