mods/admins should sticky this thread

This is the thread in question? " https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1045147 "
I was not able to comprehend the story totally so I had to search how and what
But this is pretty sick stuff if true.

Thats horrible. So much for being "friends".

Sickening how the vultures are ready to pounce when somebody passes.I sure hope Karma is a Bitch

I'm truly shocked.

I don't feel bad for donating, but I feel bad if the money was not used for the purpose I intended, which was to take care of Todd's family.

RIP Todd...

ADG

It doesn't shock me that it was another donation thread where people got scammed...

What shocks me is that it is supposedly his business partner that did this to his family.

I hope it's not true. If it is, I hope judgment day, karma and anything else are all real.

Disturbing if true. Sarah, i sent you a msg.

When was the last time there has been a successful, legitimate, donation thread on here, seriously?

:upsidedow

I met todd ,and fletch dealt with them , they were great . sorry things have come to this.

I really just want to address the "donation threads are all scams" idea.

I gave to Todd's Fund , and yes it may have gone bad.OK.

However , Forest , for one and many others have started donation threads that did everything that was expected of them.

I have given to them in the past and will in the future.

One donation set up going wrong will not stop me happily giving to the real causes.

Thats all. Did not think it right that this one fuck up , should be used as an excuse not to give to the many many worthy causes posted here.

QFT! :thumbsup +1

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Thanks for articulating what I was feeling. :)

ADG

NoCarrier, oh wait, nevermind.

This one is 100% legitimate.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1077537

Todd died? When? Jeez, another one.

Edit: already saw that page, didn't know he died that long ago already. RIP Todd.

Un Fucking Real. I sure hope Kharma's a BIG BITCH to those 2 guys if story is true.

There is no such thing as karma.

Basturds ...

Agree with you 100%, I spoke to Forest yesterday and we are doing it again this year and goal is 300 Kids.

angelsgivingtree.org

Yes, it is being done again and I can't stress enough how it is not at all connected to the fund Fletch set up.

for once i agree with baddog :1orglaugh

What Bullshit.....
 

Hello all,

You know its very sad that I have to log in to GFY a few days before the 1 year anniversary of Todd's (sextoyking) death and explain all of this. I really just want the man to rest in peace. One comment from one person and a whole shit storm starts. What Todd's EX-wife and her co-horts are saying is totally not true. Here's the truth.....

When Todd died no one from his family or his side of the family stepped up to the plate to take care of his affairs. No one had the money or didn't want to. If I didn't step up the man would have been cremated and put in a plastic bag. I didn't think that right for the kind of man Todd was and for his family. So, I plunked out between $12K of my own money to try and give the man a proper burial. I did this for Mary and the kids. I also involved them in the whole process. They wanted a viewing so I paid to have him prepped and presentable before the cremation. They wanted a service so I paid for the service and also a reception afterwards. I even paid an extra $1200 to give Mary and each of the girls a necklace with some of his ashes in them so they could always have a part of him close to their hearts. At that time everyone was SOOOO grateful to me for doing that, but no one offered to chip in and I didn't ask for anything from anyone....all out of my pocket.

Then, I tried to get a military burial because Todd had served, but he didn't qualify. So, there was no place to put him to rest and everyone was fighting as to who would hold his ashes. So again, I stepped up and forked out another 3 grand to have him placed in a local cemetary where everyone currently lives so that they would have a place to go anytime, 24/7 to visit him if they wanted. I did that for his family....out of my own pocket.

I never wanted to even do a donation site! It was Todd's girls that came to me and said they wanted to do it. They told me that they wanted to try and recoup the money that I had spent to bury their dad and give him a decent funeral FOR THEM. So, I said ok....I'll get a donation site going and depending on how it goes the first $10K or so will go to me because that is what I spent of my own money and if there was anymore then I would divide that between all his children....which there is a total of 6 of them. So, when the site was up I had business cards made and the girls went out to solicit donations and I came to this community to ask all of you for donations. At that time the economy was bad....still is....and a lot of us were suffering, but many of you made the donations you could and I appreciated that and thank everyone that did. I also made a donation to the giving tree that year too because they did it in part in Todd's name too. I made one post on here to ask for donations and I made one more to thank everyone that did. You can check out the posts. I did not continually harp and ask for more money. People did what they could and I appreciated it and I've hardly been on this board since.

Back in the good ole days this community stepped up to the plate in times of need for one of our community. Back then it was usually Todd himself at the front of the pack or involved in some way. I remember one time we raised over $60K for one cause alone. I was hoping for that kind of response, but was not expecting it with the way the economy was at the time and our industry as a whole. If I got even half of that I would have been happy and I would have been able to give his children a little something. Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way.

I received a total of about $3,400 in donations through the donation site from you all and with what the girls tried to do. One of Todd's girls was helping out at the office at the time and I showed her every donation and every bank statement for this project. So, the donation site didn't work out very well and there was not any money really to give to the children. Yes, I used the $3,400 and put it toward the expenses of Todd's funeral. I put out $12K and received $3K or so in donations. You do that math. Yes, I'm still making payments one year later on those expenses.

Now, this doesn't even include the month's of house payments I covered until I was able to clean Todd's stuff out of his house. There's more expenses I covered. AND...when I did clean out the house Todd's EX-Wife Mary and his kids came over and took what they wanted of their dads stuff. I took nothing other than one keepsake I had given Todd on one of his birthdays. The rest of it went to his family....not me. Mary, the EX, took most of everything (typical of her...she bled Todd dry every chance she could for 18 years even as an EX-Wife)....all the flat screen tv's, computers, laptops etc all went to the family and when they were done I had Volunteers of America come through to take what they wanted that could help others and then the rest went to the dump.....IN THAT ORDER.

So yeah....I'm the big bad guy in all of this that has done nothing for this family. Within a week Mary had hocked anything of value for drug money and yet she wants to make comments on the donation site Facebook page of what a shit I've been? That I've not given a dime to the family of any of the donations? Well, there wasn't much in the way of donations, the family got all of Todd's personal possessions and I'm the one that gave the family a nice funeral and burial of their dad.

Oh....and by the way....Todd did ask me that if anything happened to him that I had to make sure that his youngest daughter was taken care of and to do what I could for his girls. Well, his youngest daughter is living with me....we are now foster parents to her because her mother Mary is a drug addict that can't get her shit together to get her own daughter back. Won't even engage CPS to the point to even getting her visitation with her daughter back. You don't have to do a lot to at least be able to have visitation of your kid. So, what does that say about her?

I don't like airing "dirty laundry" so to say about anyone. It's no one's business to know about drug addiction problems or CPS taking your kid and being a foster parent etc etc. I am a totally easy going guy about most everything. I was never at the forefront of our company....that was always Todd. You all have nothing but nice things to say about Todd and the kind of man he was. Do you think Todd would have stuck around me for 18 years as a friend and business partner if I wasn't at least close to the same kind of person? Really? Some of you actually believing the shit being said on here about this is even remotely true? There are a few old school peeps on here that do know me and know the kind of person that I am.

I am totally secure in myself that I have done right by Todd's family. I've gone way above and beyond what some people would have done. I can wake up every morning and still look at myself in the mirror. You all can believe what you want. I've said my piece and will not get caught up in this family drama anymore. It's just this kind of drama that helped put Todd in the grave anyway. I'm not going down that road.

Sarah really? I didn't start this. Todd's family, or I should say Todd's bitch of an ex-wife, started this. I am only here to defend myself. I've made my reply and that's the truth. Fuck this shit man. You all just jump on the bandwagon don't you? Don't try and get the facts first. Just shit on a guy. You of all people could have come to me directly, personally to ask about this shit and these accusations. My email address has been the same for 18 damn years. Oh...I could totally get into this and start spewing the real truth about Todd's Ex Mary. But I won't.....I'm not gonna do it. Todd never said try to take care of Mary and kids. He said try and take care of my kids. Mary was never going to get any donation money even if there was some. Anything that might have been left over past my initial expenses would have gone to Todd's kids and them alone....not Mary. Unfortunately, we never raised that much money in donations in the first place and I believe I told you that Sarah because you did help a lot at that time. WTF with the drama???

This is what I was talking about when I say 'if' and all about the GFY chaos machine. This is why I was floored. THIS is why I said my heart broke at the notion. Rick/Fletch has always been as kind to me as Todd.

The first anniversary of a death of a partner, a best friend, etc is the hardest. It is not shocking that a ton of emotions are floating around. I would love greatly to return to my impressions of both Todd and Fletch which are many years in the making because, frankly, I care about both men.


Todd would hate this.

Fletch, I was referring to my concerns over the response to the drama at all rather than the details. My jaw hit the ground yesterday. I couldn't fathom this taking place but have been around long enough to never know what could really have gone down. Hence, all the 'ifs' and the concern I was expressing in this post was over people running with things and going to the extent that GFY does and rope in his family and then also to transfer any drama to the toy drive.

I care about you. I looked for you on ICQ, right away. I know what you say about the amounts earned to be true. I am both glad to have heard of you and sad about the drama being brewed around his memory.

Sarah I apologize to you. I don't mean to go off on you personally. Yes, the GFY machine as you say. And YES....Todd would hate this. It's been almost a year now and I STILL haven't even grieved my friends death. This whole year dealing with the family, the business and taking care of his youngest 10 year old (she just turned 11 now). I could write a damn novel of what myself and my wife have been going through with her and what we have been trying to do to help her. Group counseling, individual counseling, school, before school tutoring, after school tutoring....trying to get her caught up and up to speed for her age. Todd could only do so much by himself as a single dad on top of dealing with his own health issues the last years of his life. I hate to say it, but Todd's family is very dysfunctional and it hasn't gotten much better this last year. Mary is a master manipulator and plays the poor pitiful me party well. It's always been about herself. She's very selfish...always has been. Todd always gave into her and her wants. I will not do that. Her life is the way it is because she did it to herself. I'm taking care of Todd and Mary's youngest and I've tried to do what I can for the older ones, but they're adults now....all of them. They have to be responsible for themselves at some point. My main and only concern right now is for Todd's youngest and I am taking good care of her. That's about all I can say.

Go to your email.

Fletch, worry not about crickets.

Extremely sad :(

Wow thats just to mutch :(

Fletch ,

We know you are telling the truth.

The giveaway was "ex-wife" in a post in another thread answering mutt. ;-))

All the best to you mate.

A sad story for all :Oh crap

My apologies to Fletch for my post in the other thread, like Sarah I also included the word "IF" the story was true - not knowing Todd's ex-wife I assumed she was telling something close to the truth.

Fletch, that sounds true to me, and so like other situations I have witnessed. I personally believe you, and I'm glad to learn that the ex-wife's allegations are not true.

Thank you for coming forward.





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That's so fucking sad.

People need to actually read a thread now before commenting. Thanks.

Thank you all....
 

I thank you all for your replies and for believing in me. It means a lot coming from my community. I've been around a long time and the most important thing to me is my rep. I've always been straight up and honest and if I ever made a mistake I did my best to try to fix it. Todd and I were very much the same kind of people in this respect.

Although I have kept the donation site and FB page up there has been no donations received for months and months. I was going to give it a full year and then take it down. That and the fact that Todd's girls seem to gravitate to the FB page and leave little notes for Todd still. However, under the current circumstances of those using the site as their "soapbox" I will be taking everything down soon. I feel I just have no choice and will be best for all.

Again....I thank you all. Sarah especially you. Sorry you inadvertently got caught in the middle of all this. You're a great friend.

Let me also say that Forest's Christmas time project to help kids was restarted last year in part in Todd's memory. Please do not let these recent events tarnish in any way what Forest is trying to do. His is a good program that should be supported every year.

Fletch (old school Fletch)

This right here is why I learned years ago to reserve comment until all the facts are in before levelling judgement on someone.

Of course, all the "what a scumbag" comments aren't exactly bad, only in that whenever someone does pull a scam like what was described in the first post they absolutely do deserve such comments, and more.

That's just not the case here.


@nickatilynx -- I can think of at least half a dozen donation threads posted here over the years that later turned out to be scams. As it turns out this is one of the few worthy ones, but you're in error to suggest that this "one lone thread shouldn't off-put anyone from donating", because there've been far more than just one.

I'll donate (and have donated many times) directly to the red cross, kids charities, the local animal shelter, etc, but my days of sending money to someone's paypal account for some supposed "cause" are long done thanks to those who posted such scams in the past. Sorry if that bothers anyone.

Lesson here is before making a drama thread on gfy off something taken on the internet make sure to do homework.

I am glad that I actually put "Is it's true" in my comment and kudos to Rick to come here and give an explanation although there is clearly NO winner here.

Which is why I was trying to figure out whether or not to have this thread pulled. Plenty will never get to page two, or have already seen page one but won't return to see the other side of the story.

its easy to want to believe the family over others though i didn't know she was an ex. when i saw her terrible spelling i had a bad feeling that she was a welfare case or drug addict. i think not only the bad economy but previous donation scams on the board has ruined anything real. its great to see people taking care of their friends when their family either can't or doesn't care.

Yeah, i saw this thread and was a little saddened by it... then read that post and its pretty clear she's very nutty.

Fletch, thank you for coming forward. I apologize for not reserving judgement. You are a good man for looking after his girls.

My sentiments exactly. Fletch, you're a good guy and Todds daughter is very lucky to have you and your family to share your home filled with love. Best regards,

Brad

So glad it wasn't true.

The one thing that seemed odd was it was only the ex-wife saying something and not any of the kids who had previously posted.

Is this the [email protected] guy?
He used to send checks to affiliates for me back in 2007. Doesn't seem like a guy that would do something like this. I trusted him with a lot of money and never had any issues.

If you read the entire thread you will get the other side of the story.

So the ex wife is all bent she didn't get the $3400 in donations after fletch dropped $12,000 on Todd's funeral? If true, there's some ungrateful MFers out there.