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Robbie 10-03-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230066)
So someone handed you a pile of money and you had just enough common sense to open up a business. This doesn't make you an earner, it makes you lucky.

LOL!

He was "lucky" to get hurt so bad that he was 100% disabled? Yeah boy! What a lucky, lucky guy.

If only everyone could get hurt really badly and then struggle to regain themselves and take a settlement and open a business...then everybody would be rich!

What the fuck are you thinking man?

Rochard 10-03-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230389)
LOL!

He was "lucky" to get hurt so bad that he was 100% disabled? Yeah boy! What a lucky, lucky guy.

If only everyone could get hurt really badly and then struggle to regain themselves and take a settlement and open a business...then everybody would be rich!

What the fuck are you thinking man?

What am I thinking? I'm thinking he wasn't 100% disabled if he was able to open up his own business. I have a friend who is 100% disabled and there are days when he can't get out of bed no less sit in front of a computer for an hour a day.

He's making it sound like he's noble because he opened up his business "without government help". But without that lawsuit he would have... nothing.

baddog 10-03-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230437)
What am I thinking? I'm thinking he wasn't 100% disabled if he was able to open up his own business. I have a friend who is 100% disabled and there are days when he can't get out of bed no less sit in front of a computer for an hour a day.

He's making it sound like he's noble because he opened up his business "without government help". But without that lawsuit he would have... nothing.

Perhaps you should educate yourself about WC Law, then maybe you would understand what it means to be 100% disabled. It does not mean you are in a wheelchair or bedridden.

Tom_PM 10-03-2012 02:04 PM

I was going to post my own sob story but you know what? Nobody gives a shit. Just put it this way..

The first abused government program to fix is the IRS tax code. Once you repair that giant sucking sound of billions leaving the country through loopholes, then you can come and talk about taking food out of the mouths of poor working families.

Don't be blinded by a cleverly orchestrated political campaign to make poor people the scapegoat. It's been done and people should know better. Class warfare.

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230066)
So someone handed you a pile of money and you had just enough common sense to open up a business. This doesn't make you an earner, it makes you lucky.

lots of people get handed money Richard. I'm an earner. with a kid in grade school and no health ins, no bank account and no job a 'pile of money' (20K) isn't really that much is it?

when I first went digital I would be up all night trying to fix the images in PS so I could sell the stuff and buy food for the family... I didn't realize how fucking easy I had it... :2 cents:

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19230104)
if you didn't have money from a lawsuit, what would you of done?

probably sold drugs because that's what I knew how to do. I always did well selling weed because I don't smoke weed... and know/knew lots of potheads etc. it was pretty scary though.. I had chect pains and the doc said it was just stress :thumbsup

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19230458)
I was going to post my own sob story but you know what? Nobody gives a shit. Just put it this way..

The first abused government program to fix is the IRS tax code. Once you repair that giant sucking sound of billions leaving the country through loopholes, then you can come and talk about taking food out of the mouths of poor working families.

Don't be blinded by a cleverly orchestrated political campaign to make poor people the scapegoat. It's been done and people should know better. Class warfare.

I agree about the tax, no sob story tho. just what happened to me

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230437)
What am I thinking? I'm thinking he wasn't 100% disabled if he was able to open up his own business. I have a friend who is 100% disabled and there are days when he can't get out of bed no less sit in front of a computer for an hour a day.

He's making it sound like he's noble because he opened up his business "without government help". But without that lawsuit he would have... nothing.

didn't say it was noble... I worked 80-100 hours a week for years. take it or leave it

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230437)
What am I thinking? I'm thinking he wasn't 100% disabled if he was able to open up his own business. I have a friend who is 100% disabled and there are days when he can't get out of bed no less sit in front of a computer for an hour a day.

He's making it sound like he's noble because he opened up his business "without government help". But without that lawsuit he would have... nothing.

BTW shooting content isn't really about sitting in front of a computer all day, that is what webmasters do. content shoots work their asses off all day then sit in front of a computer all night :thumbsup

SuckOnThis 10-03-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19229418)
can you understand this:

I was 100% disabled in 2000 due to work injuries... I lost EVERYTHING. I was offered welfare and food stamps. I turned it down and started a content biz...

and can you understand this:

I belive in giving a man a hand up, I do not belive in giving a man a hand out


Sorry but they don't 'offer' (whatever that means) food stamps and welfare to people who just collected a 20k settlement. Not to mention a 100% disability would bring in a hell of a lot more than 20k, I collected 26k in 1992 for a 6% workmans comp disability.

Robbie 10-03-2012 03:21 PM

Looks like Obama already won! lol

People think that a guy getting hurt and making his way back and being successful is a bad thing. :)

Now if he had just said "fuck it" and started living on welfare? I guess he would have been one of the good guys. heh-heh
Fucking amazing.

Rochard 10-03-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19230455)
Perhaps you should educate yourself about WC Law, then maybe you would understand what it means to be 100% disabled. It does not mean you are in a wheelchair or bedridden.

Or perhaps not.

Like I said, I have a friend who is 100% disabled by both the US Army and the US Post Office. He is not in a wheel chair or bed ridden, although some days he has problems functioning as an adult. He drives, has his own house, lives alone. Some days he is fine. But there is no way he'll ever be able to work again, be it his own business or as an employee.

StickyGreen 10-03-2012 03:31 PM

Just a big distraction from the fact that both of the parties are the problem...

Have fun arguing back and forth about nothing.

DTK 10-03-2012 03:32 PM

Too bad they won't let Gary Johnson participate...we'd actually have some real truth-telling going on.

Rochard 10-03-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19230468)
lots of people get handed money Richard. I'm an earner. with a kid in grade school and no health ins, no bank account and no job a 'pile of money' (20K) isn't really that much is it?

Your right. Lots of people get handed money. All those people on welfare and unemployment... They are just waiting until that big pay day.

Explain to me how you went from 100% disabled to suddenly being able to work full time (plus)?

Rochard 10-03-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19230526)
BTW shooting content isn't really about sitting in front of a computer all day, that is what webmasters do. content shoots work their asses off all day then sit in front of a computer all night :thumbsup

Yeah, because, you know, I've never never shot content by day and then worked on websites all night long.

Robbie 10-03-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19230589)
Too bad they won't let Gary Johnson participate...we'd actually have some real truth-telling going on.

I agree 100%

Obama is no different than Bush and Romney is no different than Obama. It's just business as usual.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

Biggy2 10-03-2012 03:40 PM

It's funny that people say Mitt is some awesome debater. He went up against a bunch of circus clowns during the primaries and to be honest I was hardly impressed. I don't think Obama is good, and anyone can win, but this is the only other debate I have seen from Mitt:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

Rochard 10-03-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230570)
Looks like Obama already won! lol

People think that a guy getting hurt and making his way back and being successful is a bad thing. :)

Now if he had just said "fuck it" and started living on welfare? I guess he would have been one of the good guys. heh-heh
Fucking amazing.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing that he got hurt and climbed up out of his hole - Good for him. I've been there and done that myself.

My thing is that he's saying "he's an earner" and that he didn't need "government help" to crawl out of his hole. Seems to me like he considers himself an "earner" and not "lazy and on welfare". The only difference between him and someone on welfare is that someone on welfare doesn't have $20k to start a business with.

Vendzilla 10-03-2012 03:52 PM

Obama is good with a teleprompter
He's gotten better without it
He'll take credit for killing Osama, without mentioning the Seals, like in his speech.
He'll say Obamacare is going to save billions, even thought according the CBO, 30 million will still be without healthcare, including 6 million that will have to pay a tax to stay out of it, raising 8 billion a year in taxes?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ealth-care-ta/
Then he'll talk about the unemployed, longest time above 8% for any president since the depression.
Romney's plan I hope is different, because Obama's ain't working too good!
Romney's health plan for Mass. is working pretty good, maybe he knows something about healthcare?
Anyways, going to watch them and keep from laughing at the lies

Biggy2 10-03-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19230627)
Obama is good with a teleprompter
He's gotten better without it
He'll take credit for killing Osama, without mentioning the Seals, like in his speech.
He'll say Obamacare is going to save billions, even thought according the CBO, 30 million will still be without healthcare, including 6 million that will have to pay a tax to stay out of it, raising 8 billion a year in taxes?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ealth-care-ta/
Then he'll talk about the unemployed, longest time above 8% for any president since the depression.
Romney's plan I hope is different, because Obama's ain't working too good!
Romney's health plan for Mass. is working pretty good, maybe he knows something about healthcare?
Anyways, going to watch them and keep from laughing at the lies

Romney's healthcare plan for MA is basically the cornerstone of Obama's healthcare plan. Obamacare was literally based off of Romney's healthcare plan in MA. This is fact. So your comments don't really add up, and this is also why you never hear Mitt talk about it. For the 2 days he ran around the campaign crying to repeal Obamacare, he also appeared as the biggest hypocrite of all time, which will be what Obama paints him as, just like what Ted Kennedy did. In Mitt's ideal world, there will be no discussion about healthcare tonight. :2 cents:

It is impossible to hate on Obamacare, and then praise Mitt Romney's healthcare plan in MA lol. Even the harshest of conservatives admit this.

Robbie 10-03-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230609)
The only difference between him and someone on welfare is that someone on welfare doesn't have $20k to start a business with.

You don't know that. Plenty of people out there get hurt and don't do shit. Plenty of people get money from settlements and end up blowing it all on things they want.

There is a BIG difference between him and a guy on welfare. The guy on welfare isn't working.

He could have kept his 20 grand and went on the govt. dole. He could've kept his 20 grand and got himself a job as an employee.

Fuck man...20 grand ain't shit anyway. It's less than the monthly salary I pay myself.

The difference between him and a guy on welfare is drive, intelligence, and ambition.

DTK 10-03-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230600)
I agree 100%

Obama is no different than Bush and Romney is no different than Obama. It's just business as usual.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

Sincerely glad you've come around :thumbsup:thumbsup

Robbie 10-03-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 19230643)
Romney's healthcare plan for MA is basically the cornerstone of Obama's healthcare plan. Obamacare was literally based off of Romney's healthcare plan in MA. This is fact. So your comments don't really add up, and this is also why you never hear Mitt talk about it. For the 2 days he ran around the campaign crying to repeal Obamacare, he also appeared as the biggest hypocrite of all time, which will be what Obama paints him as, just like what Ted Kennedy did. In Mitt's ideal world, there will be no discussion about healthcare tonight. :2 cents:

Romney has talked about healthcare. He said he will repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare.

As for hypocrites...there will be two of them onstage tonight. One of them is pandering to his base, but hasn't been the President for the last 4 years,

The other one is the President of the last 4 years who broke a ton of major campaign promises from last time.
Whether we are still supposed to believe that 4 years into his Presidency it's "all Bush's fault" or not, there are only two conclusions I can come up with:

1: After 4 years this is OBAMA'S economy and he is failing.

2. It's still BUSH'S economy and Obama doesn't know how to fix it.

More people in poverty NOW. More people on welfare NOW. More people on foodstamps NOW.

So baby jesus Obama turned out to NOT be the messiah. Romney isn't going to be any different.

How about taking a look at Gary Johnson? That's who I'm voting for. I registered as a Libertarian at the beginning of the week.
I'm sick of Republicans and Democrats.

We just keep doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. I got fooled by Obama and voted for him in 2008 thinking it was "hope and change" It turned out to be "more of the same"

Biggy2 10-03-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230660)
Romney has talked about healthcare. He said he will repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare.

As for hypocrites...there will be two of them onstage tonight. One of them is pandering to his base, but hasn't been the President for the last 4 years,

The other one is the President of the last 4 years who broke a ton of major campaign promises from last time.
Whether we are still supposed to believe that 4 years into his Presidency it's "all Bush's fault" or not, there are only two conclusions I can come up with:

1: After 4 years this is OBAMA'S economy and he is failing.

2. It's still BUSH'S economy and Obama doesn't know how to fix it.

More people in poverty NOW. More people on welfare NOW. More people on foodstamps NOW.

So baby jesus Obama turned out to NOT be the messiah. Romney isn't going to be any different.

How about taking a look at Gary Johnson? That's who I'm voting for. I registered as a Libertarian at the beginning of the week.
I'm sick of Republicans and Democrats.

We just keep doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result. I got fooled by Obama and voted for him in 2008 thinking it was "hope and change" It turned out to be "more of the same"

I could vote for Gary Johnson, but I live in California so it won't matter, nor do I care much for politics except to look on as an observer. I'd be fine with either guy as president truth be told, because I think as a whole, we are fucked anyways. A president can't fix a slowdown in China, or the european debt crisis, which are ahead of domestic fiscal policy in why the economy sucks. Only fools think a president or singular man can fix a global economy. If we hadn't spent the last 20 years borrowing and spending, then that would be at our finger tips as a short term solution, but I guess we all see how well that did for us!

I just love it when people who care passionately about politics, spew out the regurgitated shit of campaign messages, without spotting the hypocrisy of the message, or the fact they don't even understand their own facts. :2 cents:

Another interesting tidbit, polling (for what its worth), shows that how it is going into debate season is usually is what it is coming out and time for the election. And if Romney doesn't win Ohio, he's not winning the election, and Ohio loves Obama's auto bailout.\

And regarding Obamacare and Romney, whatever Romney says, Obama will bring up that is was modelled after his own plan. This is fact, and one in which even the most ardent supporters of Romney who understand what they are talking about do not deny. If youre talking about Obamacare, you are talking about Mitt Romney's healthcare plan as the same. They are for the most part, the same. OOPS!

DTK 10-03-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 19230675)
I just love it when people who care passionately about politics, spew out the regurgitated shit of campaign messages, without spotting the hypocrisy of the message, or the fact they don't even understand their own facts. :2 cents:

This drives me absolutely batshit crazy. People too fucking lazy to do their own fact-checking, which is incredibly easy to do nowadays. But hey, it's a hell of a lot easier to just regurgitate what some shill says instead of thinking things through themselves.

Anyone who takes just a little time will see that the dems/reps have been selling this country out to huge money interests for the last 30+ years.

Robbie 10-03-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2 (Post 19230675)
I could vote for Gary Johnson, but I live in California so it won't mattert.

That's what I always thought.

That if I didn't vote Republican or Democrat I "wasted my vote"

Guess what? I wasted it anyway. I voted for Bush and he won...but I still wasted my vote. I voted for Obama and he won...but I still wasted my vote.

I was looking at it like they were sports team and my "side" "won".

But it's not so. I "won" and the country still lost. And keeps losing while those thieves in Washington get richer and richer.

This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.

directfiesta 10-03-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230647)

Fuck man...20 grand ain't shit anyway. It's less than the monthly salary I pay myself.

.

Please !!!! Cut the BS...

Do I need to search for your thread not so long ago about your balances on your credit cards ????

I don't make/pay 20K a month ... I maybe do ( with my real estate investment - read rents ) 9-10 k a month ... but have 2 mortgages ...

On the other hand, on 30K of available credit , I have maybe 2000.00 on aingle card that are the current charges.

So again, quit the BS ...

DTK 10-03-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230688)
This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.

Very well said, Robbie. The football game analogy is perfect.

That whole 'wasting your vote' line is just another trick to keep people locked into the two worthless party system. You're never wasting your vote if your voting your beliefs.

The people who are really wasting their votes are the vast majority who blindly vote dem or rep.

kane 10-03-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230688)
That's what I always thought.

That if I didn't vote Republican or Democrat I "wasted my vote"

Guess what? I wasted it anyway. I voted for Bush and he won...but I still wasted my vote. I voted for Obama and he won...but I still wasted my vote.

I was looking at it like they were sports team and my "side" "won".

But it's not so. I "won" and the country still lost. And keeps losing while those thieves in Washington get richer and richer.

This time I'm not going to "waste" my vote. I'm going to vote for the right guy and for the right reasons. I'm not going to think of it like it's a football game anymore.
This will be my first vote that is NOT wasted. Isn't that what Democracy is supposed to be? Not voting for your "side" but voting for the person you think is the best person for the job.

If enough people who were fed up with both parties voted for a third party candidate that candidate could get enough of the vote that they would be allowed into the debates and their party would get matching funds for future elections. They could start to build another party that, at the very least, would force the other two to be a little more accountable and if this third party were good enough it might be able to elect some people into different offices.

Robbie 10-03-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19230697)
Please !!!! Cut the BS...

Do I need to search for your thread not so long ago about your balances on your credit cards ????

I don't make/pay 20K a month ... I maybe do ( with my real estate investment - read rents ) 9-10 k a month ... but have 2 mortgages ...

On the other hand, on 30K of available credit , I have maybe 2000.00 on aingle card that are the current charges.

So again, quit the BS ...

Search away brother. I have HUGE bills. How do you think I pay them? With the 25K a month I pay myself. Is that really a lot of money to you? I was making around 80 grand a month well into 2009 as piracy started destroying my income as an affiliate.

I currently have one platinum biz AMEX with $19,100 balance on it, one with $2700 balance on it (that one has to be paid in full at the end of each month, one Macy's Amex with $4300 balance on it, and then a bunch of other cards (Victoria Secrets Angel card, Old Navy card, Target card, etc.) with varying balances on them.

What does any of that have to do with this conversation? I don't need to "BS" anybody. Come to Vegas. I'll have you over to the house, show you my office, show you what I do here, show you my stats remote numbers, etc.

I don't have anything to hide. :)

Rochard 10-03-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230647)

There is a BIG difference between him and a guy on welfare. The guy on welfare isn't working.

Your, huge diffrence. The guy on welfare also doesn't have $20k in his pocket.

Robbie 10-03-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230777)
Your, huge diffrence. The guy on welfare also doesn't have $20k in his pocket.

Why does the guy on Welfare need 20K? He didnt' get hurt badly. He's just not working.

You are stretching for this aren't you? If it's so goddamn easy to be successful...then WHY aren't all the people who get hurt and get settlements every year all running successful businesses because of their incredible "luck" at getting hurt?

And do people need 20k in their pocket to get off their ass and go to work? Nothing stopping the guy on welfare (considering that he is healthy) from doing SOMETHING other than collect welfare.

You can't seriously believe what you are saying do you?

Dirty Dane 10-03-2012 05:36 PM

I miss Bush.

theking 10-03-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230759)
Search away brother. I have HUGE bills. How do you think I pay them? With the 25K a month I pay myself. Is that really a lot of money to you? I was making around 80 grand a month well into 2009 as piracy started destroying my income as an affiliate.

I currently have one platinum biz AMEX with $19,100 balance on it, one with $2700 balance on it (that one has to be paid in full at the end of each month, one Macy's Amex with $4300 balance on it, and then a bunch of other cards (Victoria Secrets Angel card, Old Navy card, Target card, etc.) with varying balances on them.

What does any of that have to do with this conversation? I don't need to "BS" anybody. Come to Vegas. I'll have you over to the house, show you my office, show you what I do here, show you my stats remote numbers, etc.

I don't have anything to hide. :)

Just out of curiosity what was your 2011 annual gross income from porn? Is your gross income from porn projected to be approximately the same...less or more...for 2012?

Donny Cybersocket 10-03-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 19223237)
Speaking as a free European however, my picture of Romney might be skewed and only his mishaps have filtered through to me. His brilliance may only have been disclosed to the privileged voters in the US of A.

I live in the USA and I have not seen this "brilliance" you speak off. He is a total tool. We probably just get to see more of his tool-ishness then you do :)

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19230537)
Sorry but they don't 'offer' (whatever that means) food stamps and welfare to people who just collected a 20k settlement. Not to mention a 100% disability would bring in a hell of a lot more than 20k, I collected 26k in 1992 for a 6% workmans comp disability.

I was told I could pull my social security retirement about 900-1200 a month food stamps etc... welfare in my mind. I think lawsuits are not considered income. after lawyers expenses and advance to survive on I got around 20k. the porcess went on for 2 years.

BFT3K 10-03-2012 06:01 PM

The Debate Begins...

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...19258394_n.jpg

2MuchMark 10-03-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19223203)
Who is going to win the Presidential Debate and why...

Debate is starting right now... can't wait to see Romney get his ass handed to him.

Grapesoda 10-03-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19230592)
Your right. Lots of people get handed money. All those people on welfare and unemployment... They are just waiting until that big pay day.

Explain to me how you went from 100% disabled to suddenly being able to work full time (plus)?

it's my shoulders. unable to perform the duties for my career. then when I was in training for computers I needed both elbows operated on, ulnar retractions.

it was EXTREMELY painful to shoot in fact I was shooting the day after an operation when was told specifically not too... the stitches popped open, a real mess. very very VERY painful. but Richard I had kid to take care off... right now I'm shooting with a torn bicep... that hurts like a mother fucker as well....

going to therapy few times a week trying to build the muscle around the tear so I don't need surgery... hurts so bad sometimes I can't sleep at night. no shit. right now I'm only working about 50 hours a week though.

I'd like to think you'd do whatever you needed to do to take care of your family... maybe not...


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