Should be the way it is...but it's not the way it's being played out.

Hell, Bush came into office with a recession that started in the last bit of Clinton's tenure. He was catching hell for not being able to fix it fast enough when 9-11 happened and everything shifted.

I think the Bush years economically were pretty good. Not as good as Clinton's years (because of the tech bubble and rise of the internet). But they were certainly WAY better than Daddy Bush's 4 years (which were coming down from the good times of the Reagan years).

Obama has now been President for almost four years. He came into office on a wave of good will and popularity and both houses of congress under his control.
He could have REALLY done some things.

But he didn't.
At some point...and I would say somewhere around the 2 year mark...you have to start saying this is OBAMA'S economy and OBAMA'S presidency. Not Bush. Not Clinton.

All I heard from Obama during the 2008 election was that he had the answers and ideas to FIX this and get it done within his first 3 years or "it will be a one-term proposition" (his own words). Now that he is president...all I hear are excuses as to why it can't be done.

I have a saying: "Excuses are for losers. Winners don't need them"

It's in the Republican platform!

Fuck off. :winkwink:

Exactly! I hate the "it doesn't matter either way" "they're all the same" bullshit! It's just an excuse to jerk off instead of getting involved. Al Gore certainly would not have invaded Iraq on a bunch of cooked up horseshit.

Obama 2012.

hes just another bullshitter politician. if you think he cares about your or has any of your best interest in mind, you're a fool.

Expenditure vs. income, economics 101.

The biggest issue when it comes to this election is it's effect on the supreme court. This election will decide the course of the country for the next 20 years or more.

We can get Obama's 2nd term or Bush's 3rd.

BUSH LEFT US FUBAR!!! ROMNEY'S POLICIES ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN BUSH'S! WHO THE FUCK COULD VOTE FOR THE GUY??

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Right on.

But it's not ALL your money. We all have to pay dues. It's the price of living here. There are countries with lower taxes. Maybe they'll let you in. I don't recommend it, though.

no insult intended here baddog but...kinda like you?

Your opinion matters when it comes to the Presidential election?
Does it matter more than my opinion?
If so.... why? Are you a billionaire shoveling money into a candidate's coffers? Are you a campaign strategist advising a candidate and shaping his views of important issues facing the country?

Or do you just have one vote and a platform (GFY) to voice a condescending opinion towards your peers?

Some of the posters in this thread may not live in the US so we as Americans may be tempted to dismiss their view on our politics. However, for better or worse our politics effects most if not all of the world and while they can't cast a vote I think it's only fair that they be allowed to give an opinion especially when you take into account the diversity of nationalities represented on this forum.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/..._share_twitter
Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record

Do a little research and see when the government was bringing in more money from taxes. Economically Bush's Term was better than Obama's.

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And yet Bush still couldn't pay for his wars and tax cuts and drove us $7 trillion in debt? Name one good thing republicans have done for the country in the past 25 years.

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You thumbs up that but dont want Obama to win. lol

We basically just had Bush's 3rd term you fool...

It's as if people don't keep up with what's going on in the government at all or something...

bullshit. The govt. is spending 10.6 BILLION dollars a day and borrowing and printing money like it's going out of style.

The Feds stopped doing "economics 101" decades ago and live in a fantasy land of non-stop spending.

Tony I love how history is re-written. But you and I were both alive and working in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.

Those were great years. Unemployment was at historical lows (5% is considered FULL employment). I didn't know of any businesses going OUT of business in that time and everyone around me was making money (not just in the adult industry).

Name one good thing that ANY politician has done for the country in the past 200 years. (the only time something "good" happens for the entire country is if it's a side effect from some deal that's making politicians and their cronies rich)

That's the wsj not some liberal rag. And that article was right after w was done.Employment was flat. My father worked for a fortune 50 ,they were pitching people constantly. I was seeing more and more girls,who worked mainstream jobs , laid off and couldn't find another so they turned to porn.

Obama has already proven that he will choose his Supreme Court to be a rainbow coalition; screw their qualifications. That is why I did not want him to win in the first place. Everything else can be overturned; it is a little tougher when his fingers are in the court.

It was a blog on the WSJ; A blog.

By wsj staff

Yep they had no qualifications lol

Yes...the last TWO years of Bush saw the economy heading for the shitter.

And the reason for that? Was it Bush's tax cuts? Was it the evil Dick Cheney? Was it the wars?

Fuck no.

It was the collapse of the housing market. How come people try to pretend they suddenly don't remember what caused the economic meltdown?

It wasn't a bill. It was de regulation. A very over simplified reason is this : Loans were made to millions of people who could not afford to pay it back, of amounts that were greater than the value of the property.

.. caused in great part by the Bush tax cuts and 2 Wars

It didn't double. In 2008 the Debt was at $12.3 Trillion Dollars. Today it is $16 Billion. This is a 30.08% increase, not 100%.

Predident Obama failed to control the rising debt thanks to Mitch McConnell, House majority leader Eric Cantor, and House speaker John Boehner, who seemed to oppose every move Obama tried and blocked many moves that would have helped lower the debt.

Exactly! Because Reagan didn't have to work with a Dem congress. Clinton didn't have to work with a Repub congess. And Bush never had to work with a Dem congress.

Only poor Obama has ever had to try (and completely FAIL) to work with the opposing party.
Wonder why? Could it have been that first two years where he shoved Obama Care through while shutting the Repubs out completely?
Think MAYBE he might have fucked up big time by not trying to work with them the first two years?

How about YOU do some research and back that shit up with a link so we can all see.

There was no "working with them." They folded their fucking arms and said "no" to everything. They didn't want a Democrat to preside over a recovery after the GOP sent us into economic free fall. They've done everything in their power to hold back the recovery.

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/r...ism-by-numbers

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Obama 2012.

Yup. Terrorist destruction of World Trade Center. Invasion of Iraq based on blatant lies. Torturing to death of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. The outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame. The drowning of New Orleans. Spying on Americans without a court order. Ban on stem cell research. Growing fiscal deficits and tax breaks only for the rich. And I could go on and on.

With good times like that, who wouldn't want a third term of Bush?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kLZ_Cvrnpw...ush:romney.jpg

Obama 2012.

Really, genius? How many jobs were we losing when Dumya walked away? Where was the stock market? How many deadly, unfunded wars based on lies has Obama launched?

Go back to sleep.

Obama 2012.

Indeed. This is why there was no housing crash/bank failures in canada. Regulations in place never allowed it to happen. Banks won't give you a loan if you don't meet their metrics.