What if in soccer they got 7 points for one goal? In football there is what, say 2 to 4 touch downs in a game? In soccer there is around 2-4 or so goals scored, difference being they only get awarded 1 point/goal. Its pretty similar when it comes to actually goals or touchdowns in a game.

how did you manage to exert your homophobia into this conversation?

what soccer games are you watching where they high five each other? I don't know if I've ever seen that.. I'm pretty sure that is a north american thing. I'm also pretty sure nobody can throw a football 85 yards...

Cant believe no one posted this yet

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Ps can't watch nfl myself. Love nba though

LOL! Classic. More and more people in the US are turning to Football tho these days and for good reason. When they get good at it, it'll be the number 1 sport in USA.

Biggest cunt in football. Fact!

Well, biggest little cunt... :2 cents:

Actually the US is well known for dominating women's soccer in the 90s, making a star out of Mia Hamm, who I think won two World Cups, and Gold in Atlanta. We're still one of the top teams in the world today.

As for popularity, it's already one of the most popular participation sports in the US, at least for kids.

Most soccer players are build like women so it makes sense that the US women's team is dominating because we dont let women play football. That is for men in the US. Soccer in the US is for the guys who couldnt make the football team or parents would let them play because it is too rough and women.

Good one. I never understood why we call it football but thats what we call it and im not about to start a campaign to change it.

Love the NBA and its almost time for the season to begin. Amazing how popular basketball it getting globally. Huge in Spain now. And im HUGE in japan :1orglaugh

I'm from the UK so 'soccer' is in my blood, been chelsea for 30 years. I do like to watch NFL, it's a good sport, but I can't watch it due to the advertising, it totally ruins it, I don't know how it ever got so bad regardless of the amount of cash it brings in.

soccer is the real Futbal...Football should be called handball and the ball spends more time in hands that feet.:2 cents:

Mr. Romance

The major difference between NFL and soccer is in the viewing experience.

If NFL were British it would be comparable to rugby. The sport is not alien to our culture but the viewing experience is. I expect it's the same for soccer in America. Liberals in Seattle might get it, because they're looking for alternative cultures, but rednecks in Texas might take a bit more persuading.

Bloodsucker. He's not here to be liked :1orglaugh

The main issue I have with NFL, and American sports in general, is that they don't allow for creativity or genius. If Messi was American, what sport would he play?

I mean, I'm sure the Mannings are good and everything, but...

"sorry kid, you're too small and you look autistic"

Okay so maybe a quarterback could do this with his hands. But the artistry doesn't matter in American sports.

Go on admit it, you were the fat kid at school who they let play defense...

:2 cents::thumbsup

Youtube vid Maradona warming up years ago to "Life is live"

it's the cheesiest thing you'll ever see but fuck he's good.

hahahahha

He was amazing, and I think still better than Messi, despite the incredible numbers that Messi's putting up.

Real Football will never get that popular in the US because of the lack of Commercial, US sports were created around commercials.

http://s.wsj.net/media/WK-AS514b_FOOTBALLchart.png

that shit is just too funny;


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Football for me, and I mean real Football :)

Call it Soccer all you want, when there is not an "S" in the world governing body FIFA, it should probably tell you something. It's not called FISA for a reason :winkwink:.

Anyway, I think the NFL/CFL is pretty good, I prefer Rugby Union anyday over the NFL though and the CFL is obviously the underdog of the NFL.

I prefer watching highlights of both the NFL/CFL than watching an entire game. I think the only time I managed to watch a whole NFL game was a Patriots game a couple years ago when I was in Boston.

Highlights of the NFL and CFL show all that is good about the game, but all the stopping and starting gets on my nerves!

Other sports, since people seem to be adding them in :)

NBA I only like to watch when it means something (The Playoffs).
Same for NHL unless it is one of the big rivalries like Chicago / Vancouver for example I'll watch. Or Philly / Boston etc.

I hate the time out bs and all the adverts, drives me nuts.

Actually, I played Linebacker and Running back. However, as I got older everyone got bigger but me so i quit football because I was too small (only 135 - 140) and I stuck with wrestling (who doesnt like rolling around with another man all sweaty in spandex!?!?). This is one of the reasons why I like football because not everyone can be 6+ feet tall and 200+lbs vs soccer anyone can play. Soccer really has no physical limit...just comes down to skill.

To each his own.....i guess.

Having this new PVR has made all the difference for me in terms of watching NFL games. I now just zip past all the commercials with one click, and can even fast forward from play to play if the commentators are getting too yappy (which they often do).

I watch the odd soccer game but regularly catch the highlights of a lot of matches. When it's world cup time I never miss a match. Like others have said I too have played both, and love to watch both. So yes it is possible for a N American to be a fan of both.

Great point Bryan.. no pun intended.

I've always thought about this too.. a big complaint against soccer is the low scoring. But like you said there's few actual scoring moments in football.. same with hockey and baseball, many games in both sports end with 2-3 score lines.

As for basketball, well.. let's expand the court size to 100 yards and then we'll see if we still have 100 point games.

Greatest player ever.

Morph

People who like sports for the scoring are the kind of people whose amps go up to 11.

People have been predicting the breakthrough of soccer in the US for decades. And after the success of the women's team and hosting a World Cup, where are we? Still hiring past their best mercenaries like David Beckham, a failed idea over 30 years ago, when we brought over Pele, Carlos Alberto, et al.

Outside of girls and kids, soccer is really nowhere, and American (male) players are in general vastly inferior to Europeans and South Americans. And you better hope that continues, because that graphic you posted shows exactly what will happen to soccer if it ever did gain any real traction in the US.

Sounds like you dislike soccer for the same reason other people like it. :p

Not the greatest of managers tho :)

Very true lol.

Morph

Such a dumb argument. I grew up watching both at various times. It's purely a question of personal taste, and also if you develope an affinity for a particular team in a particular sport, then you tend to enjoy that sport much more. If you don't care who wins, it's just not fun to watch.




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He was outstanding but Messi is well on his way to eclipsing everything Maradonna ever done. Messi is 24 years old, he still has 10-12 years left, he has already won so much. This kid is re-writing the record books. He is just an absolute pleasure to watch.

Soccer is painfully boring, just a bunch of guys kicking a ball back and fourth and nothing ever happens other then they randomly fall down pretending to be injured. The only reason it exists in the us is for paranoid mothers who won't let their delicate little boys play the sports they could get injured in. They should pipe that shit into prison tv's 24/7 and cut the repeat offenders in half. I find it comparable to dropping a chunk of steel into salt water and watching it rust. If there were 2 channels on tv, one had soccer, the other was the home shopping network my ass would be parked there watching women talk about how wonderful the bead collection they are trying to sell me is.

I think you are high. I've never in my life had anyone try to talk to me about a soccer game, I've never even in my life overheard other people discussing anything about soccer. I've never even seen it playing in a bar. It's about as popular as competitive knitting. If europe wants to have a sport the US would eat up, bring back fucking jousting, but the soccer twinks running around a field aimlessly chasing a ball.. worthless.

Can't agree with that. Xavi and Iniesta have a lot to do with Messi's play at Barca. With Argentina he's won nothing. not even a Copa America. in a great team that includes Sergio Aguero, Gonzalo Higuaín, Carlos Tevez, Di Maria... running with the ball at his feet he is the best but even in recent years when it comes to influencing a game I would put Zidane ahead and when it comes to pure creativity Ronaldinho.

I love to watch Messi but he has to do it at a world cup like Maradona did for him to overtake Maradona in my opinion. Maradona single handedly (no pun intended) took Argentina to victory in Mexico 86. He was out of this world with his level of play.

Messi could certainly do it. He does now finally seem to be bringing his club form to the Argentinian side. Maybe 2014 will be his world cup to do it.

Morph

For the rest of the World outside of America it's the number 1 sport. Not bad considering "nothing happens"... :2 cents:

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One year later he broke the other one.

a lot less knocks in soccer but a lot of broken bones, knees, ankles.

I can name 4 players from Arsenal alone that broke their leg in the past couple years.

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the only sport for me that is even somewhat watchable is hockey but i don't like watching any sports really or all the bs of cheerleading that goes along with it. its not your team. you did nothing that assisted a team in winning. i don't get that mentality.

That's what you get for watching the Lions.

Xavi and Iniesta are incredible, you are correct and that is the reason Spain are the incredible team they are, but you can't attribute that to how great Messi is. Ok maybe he isn't the best ever yet but he is 24 years old. He has 3, potentially 4 World Cups left in him, this kid will go down as the best player to ever play the game.

Ronaldhino was a great player but how long did he play at the very very top for? He went the way of many Brazilian players, made their money and lost their hunger to be the best.

Hardcore NFL fans get only an average of 11 minutes played in a game...now tell me if this is a sport.

Actual Play Time of Super Bowl XLIV

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Total of 12 mins 38 secs.

Real Football:

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A few things you and others fail to understand:

American Football is very different from Rugby. If you play American Football, at a pro or college level without pads, you would get your head cracked. You would probably die.

Pads are for protection, but also for hitting. To say it's for cowards only shows you know shit about it.

The reason why the sport stops and starts so much is because it is a "by play" sport. Understand this concept and you might understand the game.

5 years in Barca more with AC Milan won the WC, Copa America, Champions League, Liga, Seria..don't know why he is underrated in the UK.

Skills wise he is untouchable, even Barca fans agree:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f_9Tf...eature=related

If he does he probably will go down as the best, but next World Cup he'll already be 27 though, hasn't happened yet :upsidedow

John...even Chess is a "by play" game. ;-)

Please there are a ridiculous amount of pauses in soccer matches, too. Not to mention bullshit calls by corrupt referees. It's a sport that does not advance technologically (maybe that's why makes it so popular), where corruption is rampant, players throw themselves are the ground constantly to try to deceive the refs. There are no commercials but your favorite team always has to wear some bullshit brand on their shirt. So instead of Chelsea on the shirt your team looks like it's called Samsung.

It's a beautiful sport, I like watching some games, but it can be pretty boring too. Like someone else said, it really depends if you have a team to root for.... that changes everything.

:2 cents:

Anyone, including a rugby player with full pads, going against a pro linebacker will land on his ass.

True, and football is kind of like chess in a way.

He was great yeah but he had 6 or 7 years at the top of the game. Messi is in his 9th season with Barcelona. I rate Messi already better than Ronaldhino, far better infact!

+1

:thumbsup

It's all a matter of opinion. More disciplined all round player no doubt like I said in my original post I rate Ronaldinho the best ever only for pure skill, for the rest (in recent years) Zidane by a hair, until Messi wins something important that is :upsidedow





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