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LeRoy 11-02-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19291094)
Amazing how every program out there does 1:200 while every affiliate of those programs out there does about 1:2000.
Something must be wrong somewhere...

It's called an average. Some affiliates have review sites and they covert like members area traffic. And some affiliates send members area traffic too.

We have affiliates converting very well with members area traffic. Some in the low 20's and sending sales every day

Combine this with other affs converting 1:2000.

Zeiss 11-02-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19291094)
Amazing how every program out there does 1:200 while every affiliate of those programs out there does about 1:2000.
Something must be wrong somewhere...

Yes. Their traffic sucks cock in hell.. :mad::1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 11-03-2012 07:24 AM

Now the next question is: if your site is converting at 1:500 or better where/how do you get your traffic?

dgraves 11-03-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19292349)
Now the next question is: if your site is converting at 1:500 or better where/how do you get your traffic?

SEO
Type-Ins
Ad Spots
AdWords
Affiliates
Tubes
Social Networks

Struggle4Bucks 11-03-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19292349)
Now the next question is: if your site is converting at 1:500 or better where/how do you get your traffic?

-By far the largest amount of traffic: affiliates
-Type-in: More then 500 visitors per day come directly to the site.
(I guess they liked the content so much that it`s worth to remember my url.
Also... the percentage of people that come back after a period of time to sign up again
is high. When i realized that i knew i was on the right track regarding the content. That`s the biggest compliment for me!)
-Link-exchanges with sites that have similar content.
-SEO-traffic... not much, but the traffic that does come from it fits very well i think.
Not much but rather have a few seo-visitors that match then a lot on stupid searchterms that doesn`t fit the content of the site.

I don`t buy traffic... did it a few years ago... complete bullshit, complete useless. I`m in a niche of a niche... very specific traffic needed.

It`s too bad that a lot of affiliates here don`t want to try my epoch-affiliate-program because it`s epoch and not ccbill. They don`t want to have money sitting in an epoch-account. I have affiliates that reach the minimum pay out amount everytime. Of course it depends on the amount of traffic and the quality of it. But if you have both i would say: give it a try!

BigBossBrother 11-03-2012 03:14 PM

AmateurLapdancer.com fits for all :thumbsup
It converts better than 1:500
Traffic is over 1000 hits daily
Billers: Verotel and CCBill

Far-L 11-03-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19292349)
Now the next question is: if your site is converting at 1:500 or better where/how do you get your traffic?

Isn't that a question best asked the expert?


Paul Markham.

Struggle4Bucks 11-03-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBossBrother (Post 19292863)
AmateurLapdancer.com fits for all :thumbsup
It converts better than 1:500
Traffic is over 1000 hits daily
Billers: Verotel and CCBill

Do you wanna bet gay-traffic doe not fit your site:)

BigBossBrother 11-05-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19293024)
Do you wanna bet gay-traffic doe not fit your site:)

Yeah that's truth :1orglaugh but I answered for the first post of this thread :winkwink:

Dirty F 11-05-2012 07:14 AM

Well, after reading this thread in now know it's 2003 all over again.

Axel_Crak 11-05-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19295159)
Well, after reading this thread in now know it's 2003 all over again.

Ya Look-a-like :upsidedow

Kenny B! 11-05-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19291331)
StrugglingBabes.com

Oct: 1/341
Sept: 1/298
Aug: 1:325
Jul: 1:442
Jun: 1:402
May: 1:349
Apr: 1:295
March: 1:225
Feb: 1:695
Jan: 1:413

Only February sucked!

Love your site... just a note, your ratios would probably be even better if you linked http://strugglingbabes.com/ to http://www.strugglingbabes.com/ all I see is a ip without the www.

alf6300 11-05-2012 07:35 AM

Hey there
I agree that ratios by themselves are not the only KPI to rely on.
As a starting point, though, here's a conversions screenshot for our top sites last month (October).

http://i48.tinypic.com/2nqup82.png

There are no tricks, no hyper-targeted traffic (rather the opposite), no quirks of any other kind. Ratios above are just for affiliate traffic, frontpage to sale. Obviously, if we include SEO, typeins, etc, conversions are even better.

We are pretty much new kids on the block here, but we are hungry and (judging from what I hear in threads like this) we must be doing something right.

Our top priority in the next 12 months is to increase the traffic by at least 1 order of magnitude. To achieve this, we are ready to hear proposals.

If anyone is ready to do business, I am here to listen, and open to discuss any option. Hit me up and let's make some money together.

Struggle4Bucks 11-05-2012 11:30 AM

Sorry to hear some bigshots can`t do the 1:500...
Please don`t take a shit on small guys that do...

Well... actually... the only thing i said was that my average affiliate ratios are better then 1:500 (except februari)

Epochstats doesn`t lie

One of my affiliates posts all his ratios every month (of course you can sign up for my program via him...): Struggle4Bucks ratio example

Sorry... can`t make it look shitty... please don`t hate me for it:upsidedow

Struggle4Bucks 11-05-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 19295178)
Love your site... just a note, your ratios would probably be even better if you linked http://strugglingbabes.com/ to http://www.strugglingbabes.com/ all I see is a ip without the www.

Hmmm... again... why does that issue comes back?

Thanks for letting me know...

Thanks:thumbsup

Axel_Crak 11-05-2012 11:36 AM

Everything is possible and npbody will hate you :) ...maybe its just that for us , the way we do it, its not that easy to get these kind of ratios

I mean by that, buying huge amount of traffic (few millions of $$ per month) and do mass convertions..

Im pretty sure the ratios will look different if i send every day 1-5m hits per day on one product like we do now ;)

Also, you dont always know how your affiliates are sending traffic, and maybe they filtered a lot of countries ?

Like i said, id if push only USA, yes i can do mass volume and be under 1 : 50

Struggle4Bucks 11-05-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak (Post 19295674)
Everything is possible and npbody will hate you :) ...maybe its just that for us , the way we do it, its not that easy to get these kind of ratios

I mean by that, buying huge amount of traffic (few millions of $$ per month) and do mass convertions..

Im pretty sure the ratios will look different if i send every day 1-5m hits per day on one product like we do now ;)

Also, you dont always know how your affiliates are sending traffic, and maybe they filtered a lot of countries ?

Like i said, id if push only USA, yes i can do mass volume and be under 1 : 50

Ok I understand... that`s a lot of traffic:-) i don`t buy traffic and i don`t know where the affiliates get their traffic from... some do better then others... i think if i would buy traffic the ratios would drop instantly... Alexa says that almost 80% of my visitors come from the US. Analytics backs that up...

I started in 2009/2010... traffic growth was very slow... first exchanging links, etc... then getting some affiliates... i think all my traffic comes from niche related sites (same or similar niche). That`s good... I think my traffic amount is relatively low but the quality is good so most visitors are potential customers. The only thing i have to do is make the best content possible and make it look as nice as possible.

Robbie 11-05-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak (Post 19295674)
Like i said, id if push only USA, yes i can do mass volume and be under 1 : 50

I doubt that very seriously.

You do realize that everyone in the U.S. knows how to go find all your stuff for free on tubes and torrents right?

Maybe in 2000 you could have done 1:50 with U.S. traffic. But not now.

I think you guys have great sites and probably do a lot better than most programs...but not 1:50

Axel_Crak 11-05-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 19295748)
Ok I understand... that`s a lot of traffic:-) i don`t buy traffic and i don`t know where the affiliates get their traffic from... some do better then others... i think if i would buy traffic the ratios would drop instantly... Alexa says that almost 80% of my visitors come from the US. Analytics backs that up...

That exactly what im trying to explain vs Ratios in this topic,,, what kind of traffic is usem the volume etc,, will influence the ratio...

The average USA traffic will be 25-30% of total of all spot combined, so give me a spot with 80% us and i will have very good ratios
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19295779)
I doubt that very seriously.

You do realize that everyone in the U.S. knows how to go find all your stuff for free on tubes and torrents right?

Maybe in 2000 you could have done 1:50 with U.S. traffic. But not now.

I think you guys have great sites and probably do a lot better than most programs...but not 1:50

hehe, We are the best and we convert crazy :error

My mistake, I meant 1 : 500 , not 1 : 50 :upsidedow

That will ruin all the theory ive explained here !

Fucking myself 11-05-2012 01:04 PM

Average signup ratio on our site OurXXXLife.com, taken right from NATS, for all of 2012 is 1:352.

iwantchixx 11-05-2012 01:39 PM

Global YTD with all our Asian sites factored are 1:635 raw and 1:432 unique.

Check out our top 3 performing Asian-themed sites as of Nov 1st 2012:

TrikePatrol.com (New tools weekly)
RATIOS YTD: 1:449 raw / 1:337 unique
PIC FHGs: 163 - VID FHGs: 212
Hosted FLVs: 251 - PIC ZIPS: 261
http://asiacrush.com/tp-cap.jpg


FilipinaSexDiary.com (New tools weekly - special Geo-filtering conditions apply)
RATIOS YTD: 1:840 raw / 1:464 unique
PIC FHGs: 99 - VID FHGs: 113
Hosted FLVs: 103 - PIC ZIPS: 100
http://asiacrush.com/fsd-cap.jpg


TukTukPatrol.com (BRAND NEW SITE IN BETA)
RATIOS YTD: 1:346 raw / 1:292 unique (recently launched in beta)
http://asiacrush.com/ttp-cap.jpg


This is not just in-house traffic. These are numbers related to everything! In-house, affiliate, SEO, adword, TGP.. you name it!

If you need anything special in regards to promotional content, reach out to us directly via email support @ vdbucks.com

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Far-L 11-05-2012 02:46 PM

Homegrown Video marketing 101
 
Time to improve the filtering to get a better focus....

Who here is doing 1:500 (or 1:529 even... :winkwink:) with traffic that includes traffic sourced from either a major tube, like PH, RT, YP, XH, or any of the others, and/or broker traffic that is doing over 20,000 uniques per day. Go ahead and still include in the average all the high conversion traffic like SEO, trades, review sites, etc..


And just for shits and giggles...

Does anyone care to share any marketing tips or tricks? It might be well documented and obvious to some or not typically considered and a revelation to others, but the act of sharing it proves that you are not only confident enough in your own success to "share the secret", or secure at least in the knowledge that it would be a hard act to follow, but also generous enough to give back to those that once were in your same shoes wondering "how do I become successful too?"

So to put my money where my text is... We also use offline techniques to drive in qualified leads. For example, although people say "DVD is dead" we are still able to drive in web customers with solidly branded ads on DVD. Even print ads in magazines can be productive, and I am told satellite radio as well although we haven't personally tested that yet. The point is you can still find web customers off the web too. Seems obvious but many people lose sight of this because their focus is primarily web oriented.

Robbie 11-05-2012 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak (Post 19295851)
My mistake, I meant 1 : 500 , not 1 : 50 :upsidedow

That will ruin all the theory ive explained here !

Yeah, I was thinking you had gone insane. lol

Zeiss 11-05-2012 03:10 PM

1:50 (or even better) is possible. Depends what you sell... :1orglaugh

jreg81 11-05-2012 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 19295941)
This is not just in-house traffic. These are numbers related to everything! In-house, affiliate, SEO, adword, TGP.. you name it!


Forgot our latest "non-asian" addition:winkwink:

....which is selling ridiculously so far:


Toticos.com (Filmed in the Dominican Republic, fits black/latina, interracial, gonzo niches)
RATIOS YTD: 1:168 raw / 1:137 unique NO BULLSHIT!
FHGs: 26 / Hosted Vids: 18 / PIC ZIPS: 13

http://www.vdbucks.com/hosted/toticos/toticos_tour.jpg


Seriously----if you're in Asian or Black/Latina/Ethnic and your not one of our affiliates, you're truly missing out on some of the most original and best-converting sites available today.

Check us out at VD BUCKS and get signed up!

iwantchixx 11-05-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 19296245)
Forgot our latest "non-asian" addition:winkwink:

....which is selling ridiculously so far:


Toticos.com (Filmed in the Dominican Republic, fits black/latina, interracial, gonzo niches)
RATIOS YTD: 1:168 raw / 1:137 unique NO BULLSHIT!
FHGs: 26 / Hosted Vids: 18 / PIC ZIPS: 13

http://www.vdbucks.com/hosted/toticos/toticos_tour.jpg


Seriously----if you're in Asian or Black/Latina/Ethnic and your not one of our affiliates, you're truly missing out on some of the most original and best-converting sites available today.

Check us out at VD BUCKS and get signed up!

True! Yes!

Still blown away by this. Haven't seen these kinds of numbers since 2002 heh

glamourmodels 11-05-2012 05:01 PM

I don't have a paysite, it's an affiliate site, and not getting 1,000 hits a day but my conversion ratio last month was 1:6 with a 12 month average of 1:19. It's for sale btw :-)

With screenshots:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1087947

Dirty F 11-05-2012 08:07 PM

Ok let me ask it this way. Is there any program out there that does worse than 1:500?

Seriously, this thread is the most stupid/hilarious thread i've seen in a long time.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 08:09 PM

I can guarantee you that once i start sending decent, clicked traffic to 9 out of 10 programs listed here who all do 1:300 that ratio suddenly drops to 1:2000 or worse.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 08:12 PM

This turned into a ridiculous spam fest full of bullshit right after the first post.
And the sad part is tons of people will fall for it.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 19296245)
Forgot our latest "non-asian" addition:winkwink:

....which is selling ridiculously so far:


Toticos.com (Filmed in the Dominican Republic, fits black/latina, interracial, gonzo niches)
RATIOS YTD: 1:168 raw / 1:137 unique NO BULLSHIT!
FHGs: 26 / Hosted Vids: 18 / PIC ZIPS: 13

http://www.vdbucks.com/hosted/toticos/toticos_tour.jpg


Seriously----if you're in Asian or Black/Latina/Ethnic and your not one of our affiliates, you're truly missing out on some of the most original and best-converting sites available today.

Check us out at VD BUCKS and get signed up!

No bullshit! Well, i right away believe you!! Sounds legit!
Lets make a deal. I'll send you 10000 clicked hits in the right niche and you pay me for 1:200.
Can we do that? This should be a no brainer for you.

Axel_Crak 11-05-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19296659)
This turned into a ridiculous spam fest full of bullshit right after the first post.
And the sad part is tons of people will fall for it.

No no, its just that you just miss Marty Macfly Ride in his Delorian, were all back in the future, 2004 golden years

MishaOLS 11-05-2012 09:43 PM

Honestly I don't remember going worse than 1/500
Mostly we are going better then 1/200 in last weeks.
And with almost no affiliate sales, so good chance for everybody really.

this is for openlovesite.com
http://openlovesite.com/marketing-to...vert_ratio.jpg

jreg81 11-05-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19296663)
No bullshit! Well, i right away believe you!! Sounds legit!
Lets make a deal. I'll send you 10000 clicked hits in the right niche and you pay me for 1:200.
Can we do that? This should be a no brainer for you.

No dirtyf, I'm lying. I made it up. Our numbers in NATS don't actually show these ratios, we're just over-hyping our lame sites on this obscure little gfy thread with the desperate hope that we can fool someone (you?) enough to have the priviledge of receiving their golden traffic.

There's a reason we dont post on here much day-to-day. There are people who focus most of their time and energy on their program and their good unique sites that sell and there are people who focus most of their time and energy sifting through gfy posts to slag and snark on.

When I do stop in here occasionally, like on this thread, I always have to shake my head and chuckle when the latter types chime in with their all-knowing authoritativeness.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreg81 (Post 19296813)
No dirtyf, I'm lying. I made it up. Our numbers in NATS don't actually show these ratios, we're just over-hyping our lame sites on this obscure little gfy thread with the desperate hope that we can fool someone (you?) enough to have the priviledge of receiving their golden traffic.

There's a reason we dont post on here much day-to-day. There are people who focus most of their time and energy on their program and their good unique sites that sell and there are people who focus most of their time and energy sifting through gfy posts to slag and snark on.

When I do stop in here occasionally, like on this thread, I always have to shake my head and chuckle when the latter types chime in with their all-knowing authoritativeness.

That's great! So we have a deal?

iwantchixx 11-05-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19296648)
Ok let me ask it this way. Is there any program out there that does worse than 1:500?

Seriously, this thread is the most stupid/hilarious thread i've seen in a long time.

Sure, we have a few that do. That's part of the game. Some are wicked, some are just good.

The poster DID ask for paysites that convert at 1:500 or better. So people responded with their sites that do.

But about your statement about going from 1:300 to 1:2000.. unfortunately.. that does happen. I used to promote a site years ago that did well for me.. very well.. best month was 1:32 worst was 1:200 when they started shaving (it was proven that they did, and subsequently put out of business) but others who have tried it on my recommendations have done TERRIBLE....just happens that way.

I challenge and invite any serious webmasters to give us a try. If you have decent Asian niche traffic ( heck, even homemade style "real" amateur will do decent on our FilipinaSexDiary) you will make money. Our sites are not over-exposed. We are under-utilized and still very fresh.

TrikePatrol is a proven site.. always does well. Nobody else does it like we do. FilipinaSexDiary is under a year old and the content is real. TukTuk is so new, it's not even open to public yet but we are willing to open up to select affiliates who qualify and can show they are serious about promotions. Want to take a test spin?

iwantchixx 11-05-2012 11:14 PM

A deal of paying at 1:200 might be ripping you off.. I mean.. what if you do better? Can we keep the rest? Come on man.. some people are actually honest about their programs. Geez, what's it goina take next to get a serious reaction to good ratios? Letting people in via remote desktop to view us sifting through stats? lol

Put your traffic where your mouth is and prove our terribly over-hyped ratios. Send 10,000 targeted hits from good sources and if you do worse than 1:500, not only will we pay you the same way we pay everyone else for the sales you generate, like clockwork, I will personally hold a sign stating "I am an idiot" in a pink skirt.

Dirty F 11-05-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 19296852)
A deal of paying at 1:200 might be ripping you off.. I mean.. what if you do better? Can we keep the rest? Come on man.. some people are actually honest about their programs. Geez, what's it goina take next to get a serious reaction to good ratios? Letting people in via remote desktop to view us sifting through stats? lol

Put your traffic where your mouth is and prove our terribly over-hyped ratios. Send 10,000 targeted hits from good sources and if you do worse than 1:500, not only will we pay you the same way we pay everyone else for the sales you generate, like clockwork, I will personally hold a sign stating "I am an idiot" in a pink skirt.

What? No 1:200 deal? Why not?

iwantchixx 11-06-2012 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19296874)
What? No 1:200 deal? Why not?

Are you worried your traffic won't hold up to the challenge? I can't ever see us making any such deal with ya, that would be ridiculous on the off-chance your traffic does bad. You'll make what your traffic is worth. Give it a try, we have posted 100% honest numbers as I'm sure many other programs have done the same (not all, but many).

It's not financially sound for anyone to lie really. If the ratios were actually worse, we'd stand to lose a lot more than money. We'd lose our integrity, future business and just saturate to non-profitability if we lied constantly to get a bunch of affiliates.

That being said, I do at the end of the day, see you're point. For all you know.. we could be bullshitting and I'm sure there are many that do bullshit. We, however, are not. If our #'s were bad, we'd be busy like mutherfuckers fixing it.

You should see how much we panic and go into kick-butt mode on just bounce rates. I've seen our entire team go without sleep to correct the silliest of shit. So if ratios went down the tubes.. I guarantee you it would not last long before it was fixed.

Bottom line: Look at our content. It should speak for itself. Have you actually visited and sampled our sites? There are NO other paysites out there that offer what we offer. Period. Put your traffic where your mouth is. Seriously. I want to see you succeed monetarily and make you eat crow for not believing in our awesomeness :)

Do you have any Asian/BLack/Interracial/Gonzo traffic? Lets see it.

jreg81 11-06-2012 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 19296852)
Put your traffic where your mouth is.

Exactly.

We've done our job; Created unique and original ethnically niched sites from different corners of the globe that have been proven to sell with the right traffic from good webmasters.

It's any prospective affiliate's job to send their traffic (or not). After all, if you didn't do that, what exactly would you do? And if and when you do, we'll pay you for the sales (and rebills) you generate. Always have, always will.

We have several hundred VD Bucks affiliates who actually send us good traffic and sales on a regular basis..........they don't just talk about it on message forums.


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