Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19295293)

No one knows the winner until the game is played.

The new plant was great timing for us. The company that was selling is a very large multi-billion dollar organization. Because they were committed to selling the plant we got a great deal on it.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19295268)

Minte,

I don't think you are overestimating the uncertainty with Obama, but you are clearly underestimating the uncertainty with Romney. No matter how you slice it they are both Fs and whether one is a 45 and the other is a 55 out of 100 on economics, neither will fix the problems we face or put much of a dent in them by 2016 - especially with an absurdly partisan congress.

The only real edge in the election is Obama is much more favorable on social issues... On financial matters they are both likely to be failures.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19295352)

You are missing my point here. You are saying that businesses won't invest because Obama is in office, while at the same time you are expanding. The concept of a business owner saying "It's a bad time to expand because Obama is in office" is pure bullshit.

Putting Romney in office with his 22% failure rate and 37% approval rate when he left office is not going to stimulate businesses.

Why don't you just tell us the truth - you stand to benefit if a business man like Romney takes office.

Originally Posted by HelmutKohl (Post 19295407)

And after seeing what Bush/Ashcroft did to many of adult webmasters, why anybody here would vote for an ultra-conservative religious candidate - just to end up in jail later? :helpme

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19295332)

The Japanese have a saying, "Fix the problem, not the blame." Find out what's fucked up and fix it. Nobody gets blamed.

We're always after who fucked up. Their way is better.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19295311)

Fortunately, it's small businesses that fuel the economy and employee the most people. I agree that the graft at the top is not going to ever go away.

And you use the word *if* with Romney. With Obama it's not a question. He's already given the answer.

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19295476)

What I have said numerous times is that businesses haven't expanded to the level of cash that is on hand. And that is because of the attitude Washington currently has towards business.

Do I stand to benefit under a Romney administration? Of course. A large resounding YES.
Keep in mind. If I am able to benefit so will the people that we currently employ and those people that we will hire.

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19295489)

What did bush do?

Do you really think the last 4 years in adult has been good?

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19295544)

So you stand to benefit while the middle class gets fucked in the ass. Again.

You sit there and say "I am the one creating jobs" but at the same time the people that work for you are working harder for less.

I have a friend of mine who has worked for the same company for fifteen years. For the past ten years her raises have failed to match the increase in cost of her health insurance. Each year she's making less and less.

Your driving around in exotic sport cars while the people who work for you nearly lost their houses. You aren't the solution, you are part of the problem. You want to tax the middle class more and lower your taxes so you can what - afford another exotic car or another exotic vacation while the guy who sweeps your floor just lost his house?

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19294018)

My business has enough cash on hand to double the amount of equipment and employees. I won't invest a thing for at least a year after this election if Obama is reelected. I have heard from him all I need to hear.

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19295564)

No one that works in our organization has lost their home or suffered much at all during this downturn. Every year, we have given raises and bonuses. And we have fired people too. People that have problems getting to work on time. People that tell managers to GFY,people who have not mastered the skills to do even simple work.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19295593)

If impressing a few teenage webmasters on GFY is your thing, go ahead, but your non stop drivel about what you have and how important it must be yours to keep shows what a lost soul you are. I would be embarrassed if you were my friend.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19295593)

God you must have the smallest cock on GFY.

There is ego, then there is EGO, and then there is Hopelessly Insecure people with Massive Egos that are Dead Inside and that is the category you fall within.

If impressing a few teenage webmasters on GFY is your thing, go ahead, but your non stop drivel about what you have and how important it must be yours to keep shows what a lost soul you are. I would be embarrassed if you were my friend.

I have seen your type for most of my life as I grew up in "old money" and I can smell the gauche nouveau riche (and poser wanabes) a mile away. You reek.

If your assets dwindle, so will your self worth and all of your friends as well - just like a coke head.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19295593)

There is ego, then there is EGO, and then there is Hopelessly Insecure people with Massive Egos that are Dead Inside and that is the category you fall within.

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19295688)

Ah ha! So your ignorance of the real world is based on your own small scope of reality based on your friends.

Thank you.

:pimp

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19295714)

You feel better now? I remember you from the PornCity days and don't recall you being so bitter. If your idea of discussion is immediately going into the attack mode, you should simply put me on ignore.

There are plenty of people here at GFY that aren't 15 year old webmasters that appreciate debating with the other side. If they didn't..the thread would quickly fade to page 2.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19295260)

And what makes you think I don't own a business? I don't discuss my mainstream businesses here; I have twenty-one people on staff at two different companies at two different locations.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19295828)

I am not bitter at all.

I have chosen to avoid most of these types of "discussions" as you call it, but have put up with years and years of your self inflated, narrow minded, self absorbed egotistical barrages that show no compassion or responsibility to others or the world in general and are just a way of you showing off irresponsible and juvenile toys.

I actually felt bad for you even with your delusions of grandeur but enough is enough.

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 19296155)

Originally Posted by stevecos (Post 19296204)

Romney will win and we all no that there are really 57 states:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 19294435)

So, tell me - are you intentionally lying?

You dont sound like a fool, you know that the romney-ryan tax plan has been analyzed to death by experts all over the country and the world, and everyone says it raises taxes. It's just deceptive to claim that it doesn't because the tax increase is called the removal of middle class and small business deductions for mortgage interest and health insurance.

People will still have to pay thousands more in taxes every year. AND, to top it off, it will instantly depress housing prices by another 10-15 percent, which is an additional hidden tax.

See, this is why you will lose - you think the voters respond to threats, and are too stupid to see that a tax increase is a tax increase because it's called a removal of deductions.

The question then is, are you serious? Do you really not know these things, and are therefore a fool (or intentionally ignorant for self-benefit)? Or do you know these things, and are intentionally trying to cover up the planned romney tax increase because you think it will benefit you, or hurt you less than other people?

And, lets say romney is lying about his tax plan, and he really doesn't raise taxes (despite the fact that every business analysis I have read for months says no matter what after the election taxes are going up) - what then? We are still stuck with 30 years of deficit spending and debt.

We borrowed that money, we have to pay it back. It's childish to keep saying, "I'm republican, I don't want to pay back the money I borrowed and I dont think I should have to pay taxes to pay my share.".

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19296163)

Who the FUCK are you talking about?

None of the insults you hurled stick to Minte at all. I fucking hate Republicans and I'd be honored to sit down for a beer with him.

Originally Posted by geedub (Post 19296164)

Maybe he means ynot has 20 other employees

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19296240)

look.. bill8.. didn't you see what he wrote? you superficially know nothing, and trying to use dirty things like reason and logic only digs your ignorance hole here

you gotta be a big "claimed" business man to actually have a workable opinion in a thread entirely seeded by non-big "claimed" business men

sorry.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19296272)

I was a very active Republican myself...now independent. Please don't hate me :winkwink:

I just want him to look in the mirror and maybe wake up.

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19296332)

You want..

I look in the mirror and am happy. You make a lot of bullshit claims you have absolutely no clue about. If you'd like to come to Wisconsin and meet all these people that I fuck over every day let me know. The plane ticket is on me. What you will find is a group of people that are treated with respect on every level. People that I have worked with for over 20 years. We have hundreds of applications on file from people waiting to join our team.

If you think it's bullshit..take me up on my offer. I look forward to watching you eat crow.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19295828)

I am not bitter at all.

I have chosen to avoid most of these types of "discussions" as you call it, but have put up with years and years of your self inflated, narrow minded, self absorbed egotistical barrages that show no compassion or responsibility to others or the world in general and are just a way of you showing off irresponsible and juvenile toys.

I actually felt bad for you even with your delusions of grandeur but enough is enough.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19296393)

a) "More than 20 years" not "over"

b) You may treat your employees and friends well (and that could be for selfish reasons) but that was not in question.

c) I have no desire to ever go again to Wisconsin. May return some summer to go fishing and camping for a few days and that's about it.

d) Walmart has hundreds of applications. Means nothing.

e) If you lost everything material, what is your worth?

Real simple. When no one is looking, do you do what is best for you, or for the whole society including the weakest links in the chain?

Tone down your flaunting. You look like an idiot.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19296523)

2 truckloads of thin mints would never make it out of my driveway.
I'm charitable, but not with thin mints.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19293823)

Way too much FoxNews for you.

The Republicans have no interest in meeting Obama in the middle.

The Republican plan after taking the house in 2010 was to block everything and compromise on nothing. In other words, a stalemate with no regard to the damage that would do to the country. Their concept was that if nothing got done in 2011 and 2012, nobody would notice the inaction of Congress and their guy could win the presidency after everyone blamed Obama. And no, that isn't some conspiracy theory bullshit. It was actually their plan.


"GOP says compromise not on the agenda if they retake the House"
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-on-the-agenda

"John Boehner: 'We will not compromise'"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44311.html

"House Republicans Vow 'No Compromise'"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...-no-compromise

"GOP: No Compromise If We Retake the House"
http://redgreenandblue.org/2010/10/2...ake-the-house/



And let's not forget the debt ceiling crisis where Republicans blocked it until the 11th hour, causing the US to lose its AAA credit rating. That action by Republicans caused every American who has gotten a loan since then to pay more in interest.

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19296523)

2 truckloads of thin mints would never make it out of my driveway.
I'm charitable, but not with thin mints.

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19296393)

Real simple. When no one is looking, do you do what is best for you, or for the whole society including the weakest links in the chain?

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19296557)

Seriously, the main ingredient after mint must be crack.