I know right?

Yep, with the exception of 3rd world countries the US is 2nd in gun deaths per capita, South Africa, the country with the most liberal gun laws is first.

they have strict DUI laws. some states you do it once and you lose your license for up to a year. no one is saying do away with guns, just alter the law to make it tough and have more restrictions.

Guns are here to stay.

Yup, and so are mass shootings.

Meanwhile gun manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank.

merry christmas from the NRA

Every teacher in the school could have been armed... We bitch about teachers enough as it is - Do you really want armed teachers around your kids eight hours a day?

You trust teachers that much?

Along with the NRA, who is nothing more than a marketing and lobbying front for the gun manufacturers.

And here we go..... You're a fucking idiot. When was the last time someone purposely killed 27 people with a car?

Why the fuck do people need assault weapons?

Wow, you really didn't see the sarcasm in his post?

and there were no mass shootings at schools either. people have changed it seems, so do we continue to allow it to happen or do something about it? if gun control isn't the answer, and I will say its a poor one that doesn't address the root cause, but what can we do to stop these?

You still don't understand i'm being sarcastic?

ban guns that will solve the problem. :1orglaugh blame the guns! not the people using them! people drown every year ban pools as well their killing people!

stupid argument, joe public doesn't need automatic weapons

Local news just said "We are going through student numbers, and an entire classroom is unaccounted for".

I have a kid in school right now, this is a little bit upsetting for me. I must have missed it.

Didn't somebody in this thread already make a joke about the pool analogy?

It's like arguing with children.

With that logic how about we just give everyone nuclear bombs and rocket launchers?

This just made my stomach churn :mad::mad::mad:

sucks so much :(

I would imagine it is. This is why I'm baffled that people still continue to defend their "freedom" to carry guns, simply because it's was written a piece of paper 200 years ago.

saying a kindergarden class.. fucking hell man awful :(

This has the makings to be one of the worst shootings ever. Hopefully it will be a game changer for gun control (as sad as that may sound).

Slavery was cool 200 years ago too, so why change

why would anyone shoot a school for kids up to grade 4?

says who? Second Amendment says its my right to have any firearm. anyhoo im going to make this my last post in here. not really matter exchanging on a adult forum. carry on

as a parent this is very troubling. i wish everyone affected the best

guns suck

My god...
The stupidity is so predictable...

There will always be massacres regardless of gun laws or the use of guns.

http://listverse.com/2008/01/01/top-...ool-massacres/

US Army and terrorists groups they are supporting, training and arming are killing kids worldwide every day.

There can't be any sane reason. So the answer has to be the person who did this has to be insane.

"A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday, state media reported, the latest in a series of attacks on schoolchildren in the country."

You think guns are the problem? People are the problem. If everyone had guns, these people would be stopped a lot sooner. An armed citizen is a safer citizen.

owning slaves was in the consitution...so who is going to own you brassmonkey?

All the old chestnuts are coming out :1orglaugh

Comparing the world's leading nation to Mexico where a near-total collapse of government authority and corruption makes any law irrelevant. by your logic we should also scrape land property laws as they don't work in Zimbabwe.

March 13, 1996 : Dunblane massacre. Unemployed former shopkeeper and Scout leader Thomas Hamilton walked into Dunblane Primary School armed with two 9 mm pistols and two .357 Magnum revolvers. He killed sixteen small children and a teacher. The subsequent police investigation revealed that Hamilton had loaded the magazines for his Browning with an alternating combination of fully metal jacketed and hollow point ammunition. This event led to the banning of handguns in the UK.

People with weapons are the problem, the better the weapon the bigger the problem :2 cents:

people are the problem. and the more people who own guns, the more nuts own guns as well..as they are people. the majority of which are not even recognized as mentally ill.

This is such common sense but the pro-gun crowd is so brainwashed in their ideology that it'll never sink in for most of them.

How many of the 22 kids died? 0. If this guy had a gun, how many kids would be dead?

they are saying 30 have been killed :(

And none of them died, friggen jaggoff.

http://dawn.com/2012/12/14/knife-wie...dren-in-china/

Shooter 24 years old, mother worked at school and one of the victims.

If only these sick fucks would take their own lives without hurting anyone else.

Congrats, you're an idiot. Welcome to the pro gun club, here's your rifle.

I find it hard to believe most of them even believe it themselves, they are just protective of it because they like the feeling of power and security they get from having guns close by. An emotional response hiding behind ideology.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

That's the thing. It's the society we live in now. More violent crazies than ever. I'm fairly indifferent to gun laws because quite frankly, people who want something have a knack for getting it whether it's illegal or not. The takeaway from the war on drugs to me is that despite people getting caught and going to jail all the fucking time for having/using drugs, they still do it - more now than before. There will be less guns, and sure there will be maybe some fewer crazy people getting them, but with criminals always having the will and the way to get guns, don't you think crime by actual career criminals may go up while the minimal amount of Joe Blow going insane crime would go down? Shit, go ahead and rob a house - guns are illegal so they probably won't have one. Or hey, how about store robbings? Store owner can't have a gun, so some easy money right there.

This is all conjecture though and I'm well aware that may NOT happen if guns are illegal here, but I don't think anyone really knows. We keep comparing countries with more strict gun laws with lower crime, but they are not the US and don't have our culture. It's our culture that is fucking us most. These shootings happen here most of all IMO because this is a culture that is producing more and more crazy people as time goes on and we're simply fortunate that such a tiny percentage of them have been getting guns and doing this kind of shit.

Minor details the gun nuts don't care about.

these were little kids, you think they should have each had a gun? even if arming people in a school wasn't a stupid idea, who would be armed? the teacher right?

I have a daughter in kindergarten, and another starting next year, parents, teachers, volunteers, support workers, and numerous other people walk in and out everyday, there is no kindergarten metal detector, so this guy could walk in past the office and walk right into the classroom. So lets say Teachers were all armed, well if they were, this guy would certainly know that and so would the rest of us. when he walks in the teacher is not going to immediately notice he walked in over the sound of 20 5 year olds, drop what he is doing, un-holster his pistol and pop the dude in the head, at the most he would have said "can I help you". Bang, the dude shoots the teacher, so how much good did the gun do? all it did was give this nut job a second gun so he could shoot more people.

at the root of this, I 100% agree with you, people are the problem, parents have been failing seriously for decades, raising mental midgets that have no idea how to live in a normal society, but you can't ban people, you can't put them in jail till they actually do something wrong, and if that something is shooting 27 people, then you are too late. You can however make the sale and distribution of automatic weapons that have no place in society illegal, you can make possessing an automatic weapon akin to attempted murder, a crime serious enough to actually deter people from breaking it.

I don't think peoples right to bear arms should be taken away, I just think the definition of that right which many of you live by is ridiculous. I am pretty sure when that document was drafted 1) there was no Meijer to buy steaks and chicken breasts at, 2) AK's, AR's m16's and uzi's didn't exist. 3) please send me a link to the story where someone shot 22 kids with a muzzle loader.

is it this guy?

his friends list must be getting lit up by now im sure
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