click the link i gave you - it's not that much of an effort

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...loped-country/

LOL. He probably didn't know that. But I'm surprised after purchasing the gun he didn't want and getting the training he didn't believe in, that didn't come up.:thumbsup

I don't have a burning desire to carry a firearm with me 24/7 so I honestly have no idea where I can carry or not. My firearm goes from my house to the gun shop or to the range and back again.

I just don't live in a world where I fear being shot at the mall. The odds of me confronting a gunman in my house or out in public are slim to none, while the odds of me shooting myself or a member of my family by accident is much greater.

On average, there are 600 - 700 accidental gun deaths a year, vs what - three or four mass shootings per year?

You feel the need to protect yourself, but the odds are you'll shoot yourself or a fiend by accident more than anything else.

What do you fear that made you buy a gun? They are built to kill others, right? Why do you take the risk of killing your family?

Nice avoidance. You used to live in AZ, I know those signs are visible there.

what kind of fucked up world do you have to live in where you think giving handguns to teachers of 6 year old kids is a good idea to help prevent gun massacres rather than limiting their availability in wider society.

The only thing that stops gun rampages is a gun. Unfortunately it is usually the mass murderer that decides to kill himself, since the law abiding citizens are not allowed to be armed where these things occur. We are a country built by men with guns. We fight fire with fire. We did until recently anyway. Not sure what country you live in or what your issues are, but unless I live there, my opinion is worthless isn't it?

My preference is to have armed guards at all schools. Protect our children like banks protect their money. If we won't do that allow teachers to carry. Just the fact that they can will deter these nutcases. Google gun free zone and see if there is a pattern of where these events occur.

"After firing an estimated 20-60 shots, the AR-15 briefly jammed, but Roberts managed to get it working again. During that time, Nick Meli, a concealed carry permit holder, drew his Glock 22, and took aim at Roberts but did not fire since there was an innocent person behind Roberts. Meli said Roberts saw him.[3] Roberts then ran into a Macy's store across from the food court, where he committed suicide."

How come every time a cop or someone else shows up w/a gun they kill themselves?

Yeah I see the difference, you cant stop bat shit insane and got lucky that one used a knife instead of things that can't be stopped under any circumstance like pipe bombs (aka grenades) or molitov's.

Do you think if guns are banned nutty motherfuckers are going to stop being insane?

No but they can do alot less damage.

I am sort of like a boy scout, prepared for everything. I don't believe the world is going to end, but you need to be prepared for local emergencies. This was re-enforced by the propane train fire we had here in town where most of the town was required to evacuate with only a few minutes warning.

When the economy started to collapse I was wondering just how bad it would get. If my house is the only house in two miles that has clean water and food and thirty people want to get in, well, I'm prepared.

My family's lie is not at risk. The firearms are stored in an "out of the way place" in my house and are under lock and key.

For the second time, not once have I seen such signs. Not once. Not even in Arizona.

That's down right scary.

I took a look at my kid's teachers and there is no way I would trust any of them with a firearm on a daily basis with my kid in the class.

The funny thing is people treating rochard like he doesnt know what he is talking about.he is probably one of the few here who actually has been under live fire. It seems like guys who have been shot at have a much more moderate view on these type of things.

Seems to me like this person had enough wisdom to understand he could not engage the shooter with an assault rifle in a firefight surrounded by innocent civilians when all he had was a hand gun.


The shooter killed himself. Period.

The guy with the handgun brought it to a close without shooting one round. Period. I know it doesn't fit your agenda, but it demonstrates my point perfectly. I know it hurts.

I know a couple primary school teachers, female and they are not the type to shoot a gun or even hold one without shaking or crying.

Also remember some of my male teachers from school, they are not all the most stable of people.

I hope when Rochard was under live fire he didn't shoot his friends or family. He is prepared. Keeps a gun. But thinks they are a bad idea. It really makes sense. Anti gunners want to take your guns but keep theirs. He didn't know he couldn't carry a concealed weapon in his state. He is moderate alright!

When you do the math by population America is still 5-20 higher death rates than those countries but Americans are brainwashed. They are so brainwashed that they think anyone who want to get rid of guns are the ones that are brainwashed.

it's per 100,000 people - so the number of total population doesnt count

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A bunch of people drowned last week .... didn't think of throwing them water...:warning

on a lighter note - just found this on FB

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...56670194_n.jpg

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You can tell they are gun experts. They have a revolver listed as an automatic weapon. Nice. :)

Great analogy. When they send the cops to where shots are fired, they should stop carrying weapons now that you have pointed out the insanity of it all. :(

Some read to consider ... or not
http://madamericanclub.blogspot.com/...carry-gun.html

But anyway:

http://www.circleofhope.net/Jesus/fi...n-violence.jpg

We don't need to make it harder for people to buy guns; we need to make it harder for people to breed. Stupid people are reproducing in droves and the world's loaded with piss-poor parenting. Until we fix those issues the violence won't end. Guns don't kill people - morons with shitty upbringings do.

I agree, but probably should be a combined impact.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...lWT1qfkt17.gif

Is Vendzilla dead or what ????

Gun threads and not a post ... about how he goes to the range with his daughter thaty is on the SS Reagan ...

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Teachers with guns really isn't a good idea. If they're having a breakdown they'll shoot the kids.

Could they not rebrand it as Freedom Cheese or something?

Cops with guns really isn't a good idea. If they're having a breakdown they'll shoot anyone near them.

Well Guess what these FEMALES confronted the Shooter and were executed. They also placed their bodies in front of the children to protect them and Died.
I NOW honestly believe that is the Principal had a weapon she would of ended it or caused the shooter to kill himself sooner than when he heard police sirens.

Those kids in China could of been easily killed just as well.
I think it takes a lot more to put yourself in the line of fire than to shoot someone...

When you run out of ideas that make sense posting a picture of Hitler is a great idea :disgust

Switzerland?

Meanwhile in England/Wales:

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
and
http://murderpedia.org/male.K/k/keith-alexander.htm

I thank Thomas Jefferson who put the 2nd amendment in the constitution so I can have my handgun for muggers on the street, my shotgun to take down an intruder in my home and my AR-15 to take out the ones trying to take my guns......

THE ONLY REASON THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT TAKE ALL OF OUR RIGHTS AWAY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE THREAT OF RETALIATION, TAKE AWAY THAT RIGHT AND WE ARE DEFENSELESS.


Thomas Jefferson "the only reason that citizens in this new nation should have the right to bare arms, that in worse case scenario rise up against tyranny in government"

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For the guy in Switzerland - isn't it the case that when a combat rifle is issued to the citizen militia, the ammunition is delivered in a sealed metal can (tin for you UK-ers) which can't be opened except in time of war, on orders, and that there's pretty serious punishment for fooling around with that ammo or rifle? Just asking.

I agree with the other recent posters. I really think that the framers of the Bill of Rights were among the most brilliant statesmen that any nation has been fortunate to possess, that they knew history well, but they knew human nature even better. Far better than anyone in our national government in many decades. That's why I think we all should be quite afraid to fuck with any part of the Bill of Rights. They all fit together intricately to frame a government fit for free people, a government under the control of the people. The main purpose of the Second Amendment is not self defense. It's not about hunting or target shooting. It's mainly about keeping the government on its toes, keeping the government just a wee bit apprehensive about imposing too much tyranny on its citizens. I have many brother attorneys who don't understand this very well, and while they can and will keep fighting courageously for freedom of expression, they are embarrassed by the right to possess arms. And in fact, they are hostile to those of us who believe in an armed citizenry. I call them cafeteria constitutionalists. You can't pick and chose. Either you support and will uphold and defend the whole Bill of Rights, or you just plain don't get the foundation of our country and the touchstone of our liberty. It's for that reason that I've agreed to become a founding member of the Second Amendment Lawyers' Association, and I hope to take a far more vigorous role in defending that right in court.

http://media.washtimes.com/media/ima...ea367bbcb50bd7

Assault Weapons is word created by media to scare the simpletons.

blah-blah-blah

Im worried if they ban guns I wont be able to workout my arms at the gym anymore. Like if i get to 17inches on my arms will those be considered illegal guns? Im at 16inches now and a little worried :1orglaugh