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tony286 12-17-2012 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19374910)
I own several. Always have always will.

I've not said much on this whole school thing, but I have to tell you, there are many, many more of these shootings coming.

Not because guns are going to do them. Because of the way America now raises their children. Mentally ill children. And WE make them that way.

These kids these days are coddled and praised and hand held over every little issue. You lose at baseball game and get tenth place, you get a trophy. You suck at math, someone holds your hand and gives you a cookie and tells you it's ok. You don't want to go to work, you don't have too.

My parents beat my fucking ass when I did things wrong. You know what I learned values from it. When I lost a wrestling match, my parents told me to practice harder and sacrifice things for it. Put more time in. No one rewarded me for losing.

This society is 100% fucked when it comes to raising kids these days. Gone are the days of disciplining kids. You beat a kid these days and you will go to prison. Now they take them to the shrink and pump them full of pharmaceuticals. Then when they short circuit and blow the fuck up no one can understand why?

Welcome to the United States of Entitlement.

I see it every day, and it is going to get worse folks.

Nutbag kids kill people, not guns.

What's broken is parenting and people's respect for one another, not the countries gun laws.
Its not entitlement, you actually got more in the 60's than you do now. Free college, strong jobs, pensions, real benefits. The problem now is both parents have to work to just get by so instead of dealing with a problem child. They give them drugs, giving children brain chemistry altering drugs should be criminal. This I believe is the out come of all those years of giving those kids drugs.

PR_Phil 12-17-2012 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 19374893)
BTW - Since the whack-job that killed those kids had Aspergers, instead of the guns, why don't we ban anyone with that? Makes about as much sense...
this is why people think you guys are nut jobs, you think it makes just as much sense to kill off the half of your population that doesn't understand the impact of their actions, as it does to attempt to limit their ability to acquire a firearm.

Lots of high functioning people like this guy have an inability to understand the consequences of their actions.
Lots of sociopaths have an inability to feel remorse for their actions.
Lots of Nut jobs don't give a shit about what they do.
Lots of parenting is sooo bad that kids kill other kids before they are old enough to understand what they are doing.
Lots of people are abused until they snap and go off on someone.

Many many many people are capable of something like this at some point in their life due to unfortunate sets of circumstances, and your obsession with the 2nd amendment causes you to think Genocide of all these people is just as sensible a solution as Gun Law Reform?

maybe you should also hang the parents of anyone stupid enough to produce less than ideal offspring and redistribute their firearms amongst the "normal child bearing" folks at the NRA.

Minte 12-17-2012 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19374660)
maybe there needs to be a iq test to own a gun. there have been several incidents this year alone in the US where family members were shot and killed accidentally with guns when they were thought to be an intruder or an animal (wtf).
There should be IQ testing for many things. Like voting for instance. :winkwink:

Shotsie 12-17-2012 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19375072)
There should be IQ testing for many things. Like voting for instance. :winkwink:
Be careful what you wish for.:winkwink:

CyberHustler 12-17-2012 11:45 AM

slapass 12-17-2012 01:01 PM
Funny as all of this bad parenting has reduced violent death In the USA.

Most of the gun owners in this thread are using racism as the major reason to owna gun. They point tot the fact that the USA is not like Europe in that we have different people here. You are living in fear even though the USA is the safest it has been in years.

slapass 12-17-2012 01:34 PM
I think I finally saw the light. Most Americans with guns have the feeling, that if they were unarmed the inner city folk would boil out, steal their shit and rape their women. I think this is a function of Americans watching too much of their own programming on TV etc.

Minte is in Wisconsin and he owns guns to protect his family. Not singling you out as tons of guys wrote the same thing. Also it is not preotection from the guy next door, it is the faceless "meth head". I think this will continue to pass as the generation that lived with segregation dies off.

femdomdestiny 12-17-2012 01:40 PM
As I've stated somewhere here: They all live in constant fear and paranoia what is , I guess, normal when you have so many armed people around.

Tom_PM 12-17-2012 01:44 PM
TV land doesn't know how to make a good drama that doesn't involve someone whipping out a gun every few minutes it seems. Check your local listings for desensitizing.

GrantMercury 12-17-2012 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19373563)
Guns are made to shoot bullets. Nothing more, nothing less. What you shoot at is up to you, should you choose to ever pull the trigger. It could be argued that some bullets are made to better harm the object they are hitting, but no one ever argues about the bullets. Guns simply turn bullets into lethal projectiles. But I could kill you just the same with a bow and arrow, a slingshot and a rock, a hammer, a sword, a butcher knife, a broken bottle, a brick, or my hands. It doesn't matter what something was designed for, all that matters is how it is used.
It does matter what something is designed for. Other than mass killing, what other uses are there for a high-powered semiautomatic rifle?

Nobody can kill a roomful of people with a bow & arrow, slingshot, hammer, sword, butcher knife, broken bottle, brick or bare hands.

You know why you never hear about the "good" things that happen with semiautomatic rifles? Cuz there aren't any. Those weapons are obtained by freaks - not hunters or people wanting personal protection.

Best-In-BC 12-17-2012 02:12 PM
Guns dont kill people, people do

DWB 12-17-2012 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19375356)
It does matter what something is designed for. Other than mass killing, what other uses are there for a high-powered semiautomatic rifle?
Such a weapon has two uses:

1) To shoot a lot of bullets as fast as possible.

2) To be collected, sold, and traded.


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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19375356)
Nobody can kill a roomful of people with a bow & arrow, slingshot, hammer, sword, butcher knife, broken bottle, brick or bare hands.
You don't have to kill a room full of people. You just have to kill a few of them. Or quietly kill a lot of them over time. A room full just makes more news.


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