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xholly 12-17-2012 07:16 AM

well yeah if she published a photo of the buy thats pretty dumb

Jel 12-17-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19374458)
No, it is not logic it is simply a self righteous judgement call from an outsider Amelia who has a very limited understanding of the situation and has never walked in the other ladies shoes.

All the talk here about mental health and how something needs to be done about it and then you have someone write about their experience with her own son who is unpredictable, violent and getting bigger and beyond her control. She is desperate, scared of her kid and asks for help and describes her situation and the lack of help available to her in the current system.

Of course Amelia is a perfect parent and knows its not the mental health of the child but the parenting skills of the mother in dealing with a special needs child who threatens to kill her. Some kids are just fucking crazy and some otherwise good parents need help rather than judgement, some kids even kill and much worse. For example there was some shooting last friday I heard about...

Saved me some typing :thumbsup

Joshua G 12-17-2012 07:47 AM

i think its inaccurate that the writer lumps herself in with the parents of other mass shooters. She has no idea of the facts surrounding nancy lanza. there has been a lot of attacking her with suppositions that she should have seen this coming. that she is to blame because she owned an arsenal & a ticking child. this same assumption happened to the columbine parents.

its not fair. nobody has the power to read minds. these men who blow their fuses & go rogue on the public are not sharing their feelings. they keep quiet, make a plan, & follow through. no laws have stopped them. columbine happened while the 94 assault weapons ban was in effect.

these shooters are not spastic nuts that are threatening to harm people, like that kid in this article. the real threats keep their mouths shut.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-17-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 19374578)
nobody has the power to read minds.

My pineal gland manages nicely. :2 cents:

Phoenix 12-17-2012 08:00 AM

The kid who killed my father has Aspergers, his parents cried and cried during the trial that no one ever helped them. That they needed help with him growing up and they never got it. Maybe they are right, maybe the healthcare system needs to do more to combat mental illness.

Maybe a lot of things. I think it is a little too early to feel sorry for a piece of garbage who shot up a school full of kids, and the mother that spawned him. The worst part for the parents who lost their kids is still to come. Right now they have family, news, the President and most importantly SHOCK protecting them from dealing with it head on. Except of course at night when they go to bed. No their biggest sorrows are still months away, when they are alone and trying to cope.

Relentless 12-17-2012 08:13 AM

Good luck 'disciplining' someone who is mentally ill, especially a child who is schizophrenic...

When you discipline someone you are using positive or negative reinforcement to show them that a behavior is going to either get them in trouble or earn them a reward. Mentally I'll people can't process that information. Saying 'clean your room or no electronics for a week' to a ten year old having a schizophrenic episode is as useful as saying 'your room is on fire, get a banana and all the shoes you can find.' The hard part of dealing with someone who is crazy is the fact that they are crazy. If they responded in a sane way to risks and rewards there would be no problem... Because they would no longer be crazy. Step one is to get them back into reality, which is accomplished via drugs, time and mostly luck.

Taking a self righteous approach to advising this woman is about as helpful as laying out a five year plan for her mentally ill offspring. Good luck with that.

_Richard_ 12-17-2012 09:03 AM

a story where a child wants attention.

must be a mass murderer

talk about child abuse

CT-Content 12-17-2012 10:08 AM

I like it MaDalton!
Perhaps you can bang a couple of goats in Prague since ya got 2 transsexuals licking ya in your avatar!

The United States people take care of the United States!
Perhaps you should stick to your own shit in the Czech Republic!

Appreciate your concern but it not wanted or needed!
Next time mind your own fucking business!



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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19373914)


Bladewire 12-17-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 19374219)
The woman who wrote that article is a horror show.

I don't say this lightly but,

I agree.

I just poured over her blog, http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com and then held my breath and took a dive into her twitter account http://twitter.com/anarchistmom and WOW!

For someone with four kids, one of which is "special needs", she has time for two hour yoga classes, complains about having to "actually talk to co-workers" because email is down, then on November 2nd she posts " Kids out of school means my tax dollars are not at work, and neither am I". WTF?

Even worse her blog is, pause a moment, all about her. Her being the daughter of a marine. Her being a college ethics teacher, her dealing with an older teen son, and most recently, her being "Adam Lanzas mother".

She has very serious issues.

Why do I say that?

Look at her first post on her mommy blog when she started it in 2008:

The D Word
Who wants to start a blog with the D-word? But here I am. The topic of my first sermon is DIVORCE.

The story goes a little something like this. Last year I woke up and found myself living in a McMansion in one of those well appointed "lifestyle communities" replete with waterfalls and acres of precisely trimmed Kentucky bluegrass and 2.7 luxury SUVs per capita.

And I realized that my daydreams all involved a)my own death; or b)federal prison.

I had four beautiful children. A fluffy college degree in Classics (omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est, etc.). My husband was a handsome, successful attorney. I taught Sunday School. I served on a local school board. I was, in short, a soccer mom.

So I did what any reasonably bright person would do under the circumstances. I went stark raving mad.

Insanity is great fun. I highly recommend it. Unfortunately, dealing with the fallout from the nuclear blast that was my attempt to regain consciousness has proven somewhat more difficult than I expected. Especially for my kids.

FULL POST HERE

seeric 12-17-2012 10:27 AM

I've not said much on this whole school thing, but I have to tell you, there are many, many more of these shootings coming.

Not because guns are going to do them. Because of the way America now raises their children. Mentally ill children. And WE make them that way.

These kids these days are coddled and praised and hand held over every little issue. You lose at baseball game and get tenth place, you get a trophy. You suck at math, someone holds your hand and gives you a cookie and tells you it's ok. You don't want to go to work, you don't have too.

My parents beat my fucking ass when I did things wrong. You know what I learned values from it. When I lost a wrestling match, my parents told me to practice harder and sacrifice things for it. Put more time in. No one rewarded me for losing.

This society is 100% fucked when it comes to raising kids these days. Gone are the days of disciplining kids. You beat a kid these days and you will go to prison. Now they take them to the shrink and pump them full of pharmaceuticals. Then when they short circuit and blow the fuck up no one can understand why?

Welcome to the United States of Entitlement.

I see it every day, and it is going to get worse folks.

Nutbag kids kill people, not guns.

BlackCrayon 12-17-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT-Content (Post 19374845)
I like it MaDalton!
Perhaps you can bang a couple of goats in Prague since ya got 2 transsexuals licking ya in your avatar!

The United States people take care of the United States!
Perhaps you should stick to your own shit in the Czech Republic!

Appreciate your concern but it not wanted or needed!
Next time mind your own fucking business!

wow, can you get any more hypocritical? how many countries has the US gotten involved in?

DTK 12-17-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19374923)
wow, can you get any more hypocritical? how many countries has the US gotten involved in?

Trying to point things like this out to a shit-for-brains like that....lost cause.

@ ct-content, once again :321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY

CT-Content 12-17-2012 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19374923)
wow, can you get any more hypocritical? how many countries has the US gotten involved in?

To many countries to list. It's what we do and all we do. Recall the last time the US wasn't involved in some sort of conflict or Humanitarian effort that didn't result into hostility?

I agree! - My point is if you are not from the United States shut your yap concerning US business.
Notice how we don't give 2 fucks about you? - Return the favor, alright!

BlackCrayon 12-17-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT-Content (Post 19375051)
To many countries to list. It's what we do and all we do. Recall the last time the US wasn't involved in some sort of conflict or Humanitarian effort that didn't result into hostility?

I agree! - My point is if you are not from the United States shut your yap concerning US business.
Notice how we don't give 2 fucks about you? - Return the favor, alright!

Until the US stops sticking its nose in every other countries business, you can expect citizens of other countries to voice their opinions about what goes on in the US.

- Jesus Christ - 12-17-2012 11:50 AM

This aspergers and ADD bullshit is just a scapegoat like demonic possession and witchcraft.

I love public tragedy, It reminds me how fucking stupid everyone is.

Relentless 12-17-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 19374899)
I've not said much on this whole school thing, but I have to tell you, there are many, many more of these shootings coming. Not because guns are going to do them. Because of the way America now raises their children. Mentally ill children. And WE make them that way. These kids these days are coddled and praised and hand held over every little issue. You lose at baseball game and get tenth place, you get a trophy. You suck at math, someone holds your hand and gives you a cookie and tells you it's ok. You don't want to go to work, you don't have too. My parents beat my fucking ass when I did things wrong. You know what I learned values from it. When I lost a wrestling match, my parents told me to practice harder and sacrifice things for it. Put more time in. No one rewarded me for losing. This society is 100% fucked when it comes to raising kids these days. Gone are the days of disciplining kids. You beat a kid these days and you will go to prison. Now they take them to the shrink and pump them full of pharmaceuticals. Then when they short circuit and blow the fuck up no one can understand why? Welcome to the United States of Entitlement. I see it every day, and it is going to get worse folks. Nutbag kids kill people, not guns.

All true.

You forgot to mention the high percentage of kids now being warehoused in 'day care' and 'raised' by incompetent minimum wage caretakers. Families financially unable to have either parent stay home are now having both adults at work 5+ days per week while their kids go to daycare at two or three months of age and become institutionalized toddlers who are praised for being lethargic and 'easy to manage' or derided for being creative, outspoken or energetic. There is no substitute for having one or both parents present and actively programming their child during the first few years of life. Handing your kid over to an orderly at a day care who you would never have considered raising kids with is a recipe for disaster.

DTK 12-17-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19375091)
This aspergers and ADD bullshit is just a scapegoat like demonic possession and witchcraft.

You're completely wrong. They are real conditions. If you bothered to look into them, you'd see that.

Bryan G 12-17-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19375091)
This aspergers and ADD bullshit is just a scapegoat like demonic possession and witchcraft.

I love public tragedy, It reminds me how fucking stupid everyone is.

You're a doctor?

AmeliaG 12-17-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19374614)
Good luck 'disciplining' someone who is mentally ill, especially a child who is schizophrenic...

When you discipline someone you are using positive or negative reinforcement to show them that a behavior is going to either get them in trouble or earn them a reward. Mentally I'll people can't process that information. Saying 'clean your room or no electronics for a week' to a ten year old having a schizophrenic episode is as useful as saying 'your room is on fire, get a banana and all the shoes you can find.' The hard part of dealing with someone who is crazy is the fact that they are crazy. If they responded in a sane way to risks and rewards there would be no problem... Because they would no longer be crazy. Step one is to get them back into reality, which is accomplished via drugs, time and mostly luck.

Taking a self righteous approach to advising this woman is about as helpful as laying out a five year plan for her mentally ill offspring. Good luck with that.


If that woman was the mother of a schizophrenic, I'd agree with you.

Tjeezers 12-17-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT-Content (Post 19373887)
How is this any of your business besides you being a busy body!
If you lived in the United States your post would matter.
Gotta love these fucking foreigners!

And what defines you as a US citizen? Probably your disgruntle feelings for foreigners?

TheStout 12-17-2012 03:06 PM

http://sarahkendzior.com/2012/12/16/...read-her-blog/

Some interesting points I thought

Tjeezers 12-17-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19375091)
This aspergers and ADD bullshit is just a scapegoat like demonic possession and witchcraft.

Social media and internet have given the people a wider understanding of the world and suddenly we see how fucked up it is, while history learns us it was always like this. In Africa a 8 year old waves with a gun and kills with his friends complete villages while their adult supervising commander instructs them. Of course that is not news and accepted cause Africa is some third world country. Nothing new here. The Devil just moves around the world and no one is safe for this evil, the smart ones who let the birds fly over their head not having them build a nest in their hairs are the ones who consider giving in to evil is a scapegoat. History tells us this, and the future is nothing different

AmeliaG 12-17-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 19374853)
I don't say this lightly but,

I agree.

I just poured over her blog, http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com and then held my breath and took a dive into her twitter account http://twitter.com/anarchistmom and WOW!

For someone with four kids, one of which is "special needs", she has time for two hour yoga classes, complains about having to "actually talk to co-workers" because email is down, then on November 2nd she posts " Kids out of school means my tax dollars are not at work, and neither am I". WTF?

Even worse her blog is, pause a moment, all about her. Her being the daughter of a marine. Her being a college ethics teacher, her dealing with an older teen son, and most recently, her being "Adam Lanzas mother".

She has very serious issues.

Why do I say that?

Look at her first post on her mommy blog when she started it in 2008:

The D Word
Who wants to start a blog with the D-word? But here I am. The topic of my first sermon is DIVORCE.

The story goes a little something like this. Last year I woke up and found myself living in a McMansion in one of those well appointed "lifestyle communities" replete with waterfalls and acres of precisely trimmed Kentucky bluegrass and 2.7 luxury SUVs per capita.

And I realized that my daydreams all involved a)my own death; or b)federal prison.

I had four beautiful children. A fluffy college degree in Classics (omnia Gallia in tres partes divisa est, etc.). My husband was a handsome, successful attorney. I taught Sunday School. I served on a local school board. I was, in short, a soccer mom.

So I did what any reasonably bright person would do under the circumstances. I went stark raving mad.

Insanity is great fun. I highly recommend it. Unfortunately, dealing with the fallout from the nuclear blast that was my attempt to regain consciousness has proven somewhat more difficult than I expected. Especially for my kids.

FULL POST HERE


Wow, that woman is even worse than I thought from just what she was putting out there in the wake of the tragedy in Connecticut. Her poor kids.

I think it is odd (and kinda creepy) how many people look at a case like this one or the Newtown shooter and superimpose their own parenting or conflicts with their kids on it or something, and decide that it would be unreasonable for anyone to pass judgment on a woman who is seeking public judgment against her own child.


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