You're exactly the reason guns should be regulated. You make Johnnyclips seem like a genius you senile old fuck.

The 2nd Amendment was written for a number of reasons... In fact, the government expected it's armed citizens to protect the government by suppressing insurrection and repelling invasion. It was also meant for self defense, but this was in a time when law enforcement barely existed and was usually hours away. These items are no longer issues - we have law enforcement and we have a massive military force that insures we will never be invaded.

I have an assault rifle - An AR15. For the love of god, why does anyone need this? To hunt rabbits?

quit making things up, never said anything about rent a cops. Rent a cops are usually limited on size of ammo and a 38 won't always put down someone.

I think it's pretty bad that we as a nation have to even talk about putting protection at our schools. the government just gets bigger, taxes go up because the government needs to waste more money on things that don't work. I mean you think the Pope is safe in that funny car of his? A 50 BMG would go right thru that. That's what that round was made for.
the world is messed up, making it baby proof is NOT going to make it better

Wait, so you have an AR15, but you think no one else should be able to?

I hear a lot of opinion, but no substance, try again when you're ready.

BTW, moron, my guns are either registered or handed down, hence they are regulated, where did I say they shouldn't be regulated? Senility would be where you imagine things that aren't there right? Like you thinking I'm for not regulating guns. That would be irresponsible.

"That?s right, but it isn?t like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris?s gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan ? a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris."

Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...daniel-foster#

That's it?

Everytime I log on to this board I hear from someone how smart they are. And anyone that doesn't agree with them is an idiot.

Why haven't any of you geniuses done anything with that superior intellect.

From the same article as mentioned above;

"At Newtown, Lanza was delayed from entering the school?s main entrance, and had to shoot his way in through a security window. His tactics were far less sophisticated than Harris? and Klebold?s. It?s not implausible to think, afforded the time to respond by Lanza?s delay at the front door, an armed officer could have put him down before he began killing in earnest. Not a guarantee, but far from implausible."

Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...daniel-foster#

Who is calling themselves geniuses? You won't find me calling anyone an idiot if they don't agree with me. I can't speak for everyone but its typically people for the status quo who get the most upset. I am just running my business and come here to break up the work day.

A difference in opinion and solutions doesn't mean superior intellect. You are attaching that to it. You have made numerous comments in the past that its too 'blue collar' here and basically infer that those who aren't as successful as yourself couldn't or shouldn't have good ideas and contributions. Thats what the video was for, to show you how silly that is.

Bingo it wasn't to rise up. It was to protect the government.

Then why bother jumping in to this. I made the comment to newnick who did call me and anyone else who doesn't agree with him an idiot.
And the fact is, almost everytime I log in here it's the same thing. Self proclaimed geniuses that have done nothing but talk shit on a BBS. Not terribly impressive.

I don't know. Its really a waste of time for everyone involved.

I don't agree that those who want changes have to be involved in the process in order to be able to have such an opinion. You mock them with your constant posting of paying for plane tickets to collect guns. Yet you take issue with newnick doing the exact same thing?

No, wrong, you do know what is considered a militia now and when the constitution was drafted are two different things right? The Militia is the people


A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)

What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ I Annals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])

"Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

Yup cause the world works like it did back in 1788

that's the Militia part - the United States was born of revolution against tyranny, it was a brand new country held together by a piece of paper, in theory an amazing idea, but no guarantee it would work - they wanted to make sure the citizens could fight back against a government that went rogue.

Your wrong it was to protect the government because they had no standing army

Of course I will mock them. Too many people that don't live or pay taxes in the US have grand opinions about what and how we need to do things. They have no idea what they are talking about and maybe was here one time for a vacation. And always they are disrespectful about it because they are safely tucked away behind a keyboard.

Here is the difference. In the decade that I have been posting here, I have never said anything to anyone that I wouldn't say to their face.

wrong, US army and US navy was formed in 1775, try again.

Just like your article says, having an armed guard present isn't a guarantee of anything. Your talking about a huge amount of territory and a lot of people to protect - three armed guards isn't going to be enough. They had armed guards at Columbine and it didn't stop them.

There is no one solution. I'm not against armed guards at school. But it's a measure to stop the crime as it's happening instead of trying to prevent the crime in the first place. We need to be preventive - We need to help those are mentally ill and help those who are borderline mentally ill, and we need to prevent firearms from getting into their hands.

Your wrong. We might have had an army, but in the event of attack it would take days or weeks before the proper people in the government knew about it and even longer for them to get word to the Army to do something about it.

The people would be expected to protect and defend themselves for weeks until the US military was able to respond. The citizens were expected to "repel invasions".

Wow, someone sounds bitter....

It did not stop them it slowed the killing down. Do you not understand this???

NOTHING besides Magic would "STOP" every killing. A Time machine to go back before guns were invented.

Geezzz -- and NOT ONE thing you mention will "STOP THEM"

But we shouldn't be talking about stopping a killer after he has started shooting. We need to prevent the shooter from ever getting a firearm.

If there was a law in place that prevented this woman from having an assault rifle and multiple handguns in the first place - a simple law saying it is illegal to have firearms in a household where someone who has a diminished mental ability lives - would have prevented him from gaining access to firearms that day.

It's simple:
- Better healthcare for the mentally ill
- Better security at schools
- Restrictions on firearms aimed at preventing the mentally ill from getting hand guns and banning assault rifles.

It blows my fucking mind that his mother knew her child had problems, knew her child was a loner, yet saw nothing wrong with training him how to use an assault rifle or letting him lock himself up in the basement so he could play Call Of Duty all day long.

A simple law preventing his mother from having access to fire arms after the school assigned a head shrink to her kid could have prevented this.

my reply was to Tony saying we didn't have a standing army, we had a Army, Navy and Marine Corp, you should know that!

Yes, Militia was part of the defense of the country, but saying it took weeks till the government knew about troop movements? They had dispatch riders, you might have heard of a silver smith that was one, Paul Revere?

And yes Richard, we have discussed this before, In hate that we blew millions of tax payer dollars on a danish electric car that an average person can never afford and a Italian company can without any help and sell it for around $16k. The people that spent the stimulus wasted it!

Also I hate burst Vend's Obama hating bubble, that loan was given during Bush not Obama.
Fisker received a $528.7 million conditional loan in September 2009

you sound like a nationalist nazi. get over it. there are people from countries all over the world here. why is this an american forum? because its owned by americans? americans who do business in europe, canada, asia...don't be so foolish.

hopefully you don't have a gun :2 cents:

american's tend to have a habit of thinking they know whats best for the rest of the world but when the rest of the world tries to say anything to them about whats going on in their country, its all bullshit that no one but americans could possibly understand. do you not see the hypocrisy in that? regardless, i try to be as respectful as possible but people like Jesus H Christ are hard to tolerate.

whatever jesus. from your previous posts its obvious how racist you are so its no surprise that you hate everyone who isn't american, though not including american blacks or american jews because we all know you hate them too. i'm sure there are more i left out. your fervent nationalism has made you blind to any kind of common sense.

The Obama administration was in charge when the loan was approved and $10 million from the stimulus was used for administrative expenses?

Do a fact check before you tell me I'm wrong.


base price of a Fisker Karma is $96K, Fiat built one for $16k. Burst my bubble? LOL
I'll say it again, responsible government would be building cars the middle class could afford, the Italians figured that out!!!

here is the difference, i not only don't care if people criticize or offer opinions about what goes on in canada, i welcome it. if we can't learn from each other then what good are we as people? (here is where you rant on that no one cares about what goes on in canada. that may be but its not the point)

Lolololol

sorry baby cant blame barry http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/22/b...-doe-for-karm/


your boy georgie gave out a shitload of money
Earlier this year(they are talking about 2009), the DOE gave conditional loan commitments to Ford ($5.9 billion), Nissan ($1.6 billion) and Tesla Motors ($465 million). The money comes from the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing (ATVM) Loan program. All the details are available in the press releases below the fold.

Americans tend to have a habit of thinking they know what's best for America. Most Americans have never left America and the ones I know really don't care what happens elsewhere.

Here we have people from all over the planet telling us what is best for Americans. And most of those people have never been to America. Most of them are kids on top of that. Kids who have a lot of growing up to do.

I agree, you are not one of the typical smart mouth kids that pop in with a quick insult then don't come back to the conversation. Go back and read this thread from the beginning. You will see the people I am talking about.

yeah, one of my grandfathers was a nazi - and the other was a socialist

and the british bombed the shit out of my fathers family in the fire storm in Hamburg

but now what?

i got over it but you do indeed sound like the neonazis who always shout things like "german jobs only for german people" blablabla...

and your "american forum" thing is so incredibly funny that i dont even know where to start :1orglaugh

Erm. Iraq. Pretty sure there has been some outside foren influence on that country/part of the world

If one can't take criticism on them selves f from someone else they really shouldn't impose it on someone else. Just my 2 cents

Why are you telling him? He wasn't President Jesus H.Christ.
Do you think that everyone in America is thrilled about all the police work we do around the world. Frankly, I would love to see all of our troops home. Close down every single base around the globe. It's nothing but a huge waste of money. Building nations... it's overated. Let them starve.

The current president has an email...Tell him.

you shouldn't start drinking that early - or at least stop posting then :winkwink:

Dude, why do I have to keep correcting you, it's embarrassing

Nissan? June 2009
http://green.autoblog.com/2009/06/23...o-build-evs-b/
Ford? June 2009
http://green.autoblog.com/2009/06/23...vmp-funds-for/
Tesla? June 2009
http://green.autoblog.com/2009/06/23...el-s-ev-power/

All these loans, gifts or what ever, were awarded while Obama was in office, you know, he started fucking up shit in January 2009.
And again, didn't care for Bush much.

So yeah, I can blame BARRY! Guy that handed out the checks was appointed by Barry

Has nothing to do wih him. It was just an opportunity to point out a state of mind, point of view or whatever you want to call it.

The last few weeks a lot on gfy and eerywhere else have argued over symptoms of the larger issues. Rather then medicating the symptoms why don't we "try" to cure the problems. Or fuck it lets bicker amongst outselves and solve nothing?