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tony286 01-17-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19429753)
A message board is just another way of communicating. I wouldn't do business with many here. If you text message me ,call me or snail mail me an insulting message then it's fairly clear you are not the kind of person I would waste my time or money with.

There is a reason that most of the people who are and have been successful in the adult businesses don't come across as assholes online with fake personalities.

If you were sitting across from me at a desk, you would find I would talk to you in person exactly like I type here at GFY. Kane, Relentless to name a few are the same. I don't agree with either of them all the time, but I know that if I were to be asked to invest with them on a project I would. I do believe that they are the same in person as they are online.

Rochard didnt insult anyone. He disagreed. The man probably forgot more about guns than most here know.

Minte 01-17-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19429768)
Rochard didnt insult anyone. He disagreed. The man probably forgot more about guns than most here know.

My comment wasn't directed at Rochard. It's a blanket statement about everyone that is a self proclaimed internet genius that thinks it's fine to be insulting and abrasive and be forgiven for it when it comes time to make money.

Minte 01-17-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19429217)
Don't confuse me participating in political threads (as you often do yourself) with me being smitten with him. That is just as bad if I were to say "hey Minte, you bash Obama in every thread... you must be racist." While I do think some people dislike him purely because of his race, I've never thought that of you. Should I start thinking that?

You also missed the wink. You're one of the people I actually like going back and forth with.

I've already figured out that if he could end world hunger and prevent every disease by raising your taxes 1.5% you'd come out against it because it's his idea. ;) <-- notice the wink.

Absolutely I'm racist with the exeception of my minority friends, business associates and employees. I forgot my military years. There were a number of minority NCO's and Officers that I would've followed into combat.

I'll make a promise, if he does end world hunger and prevent every disease from happening I will give him a standing ovation. Until then, he's just another arrogant educator with a lot of lofty opinions and no experience at anything beyond being a community organizer and a good reader.

Rochard 01-17-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19429594)

Everything is a VARIANT.

You said it.

Rochard 01-17-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19429686)
That isn't the point, but that is where the media has placed the blame and now assault rifles are the new boogie man. Everyone is arguing over what type of gun should be legal when that is the least of their worries. And based on the new executive actions, it is not the worry of the White House either.

Because you're a Marine you know more than others posting here that the type of weapon is of no real consequence when it is in the hands of a killer. Sure, some shoot faster than others and may be preferred in combat for obvious reasons, but in the real world you could kill me just as dead with a single shot from a pistol. There are not different levels of dead based on the weapon used. All this talk about what weapons people should or should not have is nothing more than a distraction from the real issues at hand, which is why are people becoming more violent, are psychotropic drugs involved, is the media playing a roll and creating copy cats, and what can we do about it? HOW they kill is totally irrelevant.

Any weapon can kill, but if I am going into combat I don't want a handgun. I want an assault rifle.

I the assault rifle the new boogie man? Perhaps. I'll never forget when I discovered that anyone could buy an AR15. I always thought that was regulated to the military and law enforcement. I grew up with rifles and shotguns; We never gave any thought to assault rifles.

kyro 01-17-2013 11:01 AM

it is true a lot more people get killed from hands guns then assault weapons, people are irresponsible with guns all the time and in many cases kids find loaded weapons and they shoot themself and die. too many irresponsible people with guns, too many people die. all guns should be banned.

Mr Pheer 01-17-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19429694)
You give it up possible business opportunities over debates on a mean nothing message board?

Are you kidding me? Yes, I did exactly that. Been doing this for 17 years, not going to change now. I do things my way, not how someone else thinks I should do my business.

crockett 01-17-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 19429030)
In the first image, in order from the top:
M16
M16A2
M4
M16A4

All are assault rifles.


In the second image:
All are AR15.

Why is it so hard to understand that just because the look the same, they are not the same?

Because they aren't that different. I've seen the arguments that .. Oh it's not an assault rifle which is bull shit. It's the same core gun it's just some might be slightly different far as add on or selections of fire.

You know just as well as I do that one doesn't need a 3 round burst fire option or a fully automatic to go on a shooting rampage. The only then you need is ability to hold as much ammo as you can and in most cases single fire semi auto is the best choice because you don't waste a lot of ammo.

Anyone that honestly tries to say a semi auto single fire is not an assault rifle is full of shit. It might not be a military surplus with selective fire but it's good enough.

We fought WW2 with the M1 Grand, a semi auto single fire long rife with a much smaller clip than any of those pictured. :2 cents:

Killswitch 01-17-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 19429391)
#edited# - nevermind, goodbye troll.

Killswitch ignore feature engaged.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

tony286 01-17-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 19430273)
Are you kidding me? Yes, I did exactly that. Been doing this for 17 years, not going to change now. I do things my way, not how someone else thinks I should do my business.

I was just asking a question.

Deej 01-17-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19428944)

easy to tell... by the average person... no. ANyone thats been around either. Absolutely.

JimmyTheGeek 01-17-2013 08:50 PM

http://livelypro.com/basil.png
Basil Walker speaks on Gun Control

I think we all just need to reflect on the word of Basil Walker(.com). The constitution does NOT say that nutcakes can't have guns.

Mr Pheer 01-17-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19430405)
Because they aren't that different. I've seen the arguments that .. Oh it's not an assault rifle which is bull shit. It's the same core gun it's just some might be slightly different far as add on or selections of fire.

You know just as well as I do that one doesn't need a 3 round burst fire option or a fully automatic to go on a shooting rampage. The only then you need is ability to hold as much ammo as you can and in most cases single fire semi auto is the best choice because you don't waste a lot of ammo.

Anyone that honestly tries to say a semi auto single fire is not an assault rifle is full of shit. It might not be a military surplus with selective fire but it's good enough.

We fought WW2 with the M1 Grand, a semi auto single fire long rife with a much smaller clip than any of those pictured. :2 cents:

It amazes me how people in this industry dont get the concept of a legal definition.

crockett 01-18-2013 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 19430995)
It amazes me how people in this industry dont get the concept of a legal definition.

The difference in legal definition in this industry doesn't result in the loss of lives..

AdultPornMasta 01-18-2013 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19429118)
Why do you not understand that most of the parts are exactly the fucking same?

It's like having a Ford Mustang and changing the wheels and trying to call it something else.

No the parts are NOT "exactly" the same!

The fire control group of the M-16 is entirely different than that of the AR-15, the M-16 receiver has an additional hole for the auto sear, the inside of the AR-15 receiver is narrower than that of an M-16, specifically to prevent the installation of the auto sear and modification of such AR-15 receivers by any other than a licensed manufacturer is highly illegal and subject to severe penalties.

The M-16 bolt group is different than that of an AR-15 although it can be used on an AR-15 but such use will not permit or cause fully automatic fire.

Although the double-hooked M-16 hammer and the M-16 Safe/Fire/Full Auto selector can be installed in an AR-15 receiver, neither of these parts individually or in combination will cause or permit fully automatic fire without additional machining operations on the receiver to permit the installation of the auto sear as has been previously stated. ATF may also consider the installation of such parts into an AR-15 receiver to be the attempted manufacture of an unregistered machine gun and there are very severe penalties involved.

It's like the difference between a 1954 and a 1955 Corvette. The '54 is a six popper and nothing off the line, whereas the '55, which looks exactly like the '54 is a hot rod from Hell with its high performance V-8 engine.

1954 Corvette:

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a.../1954/539e.jpg

1955 Corvette:

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a.../1955/8ba9.jpg

You may now go fuck yourself!

:2 cents:

DWB 01-18-2013 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19429908)
Any weapon can kill, but if I am going into combat I don't want a handgun. I want an assault rifle.

Hence the obvious case for owning one even if it is just to protect your home. You want to know your ass is covered with a weapon that is going to get the job done. If it's good enough for a Marine, it should be good enough for the people the Marines defend. They just need to be properly trained and responsible with them.

That said, I've personally never had more than a shotgun for home protection. But I can see the case for people wanting an assault rifle for home protection if they have experience with guns. If the military wants them to go into combat, then they are clearly an excellent choice of weapon.

tony286 01-18-2013 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19431258)
Hence the obvious case for owning one even if it is just to protect your home. You want to know your ass is covered with a weapon that is going to get the job done. If it's good enough for a Marine, it should be good enough for the people the Marines defend. They just need to be properly trained and responsible with them.

That said, I've personally never had more than a shotgun for home protection. But I can see the case for people wanting an assault rifle for home protection if they have experience with guns. If the military wants them to go into combat, then they are clearly an excellent choice of weapon.

You are a smart guy. Alot of this isnt about home protection, its about the great revolution fantasy alot of these people have.
I think they should ban none of it, but the regulations are all too fucking loose for something so powerful.

Minte 01-18-2013 09:03 AM

At the end of the thread it appears that no one thinks that some better controls over a specific group of weapons is a bad thing.

As long as that's all the farther the feds take it.

Mr Pheer 01-18-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19431246)
The difference in legal definition in this industry doesn't result in the loss of lives..

Regardless of what industry applies, a legal definition is a legal definition, is it not?

It's amusing to see how people seem to disregard it because it isnt convenient to them. Especially the media... and in this thread.


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