Lack of intelligent and effective promotion on the part of affiliates who are scared shitless of both Google and violating the TOS of the sponsors who have things set so tight that putting up a yard sign would be about as good as what the sponsors allow for promotion techniques.

:2 cents:

Man, that's such a good point. It's crazy how much society's changed in the last twenty or thirty years alone. Wow.

Oh, crap!

Any 13-year old can get a debit card with fake info in any number of ways and if you didn't know that, you know it now.

Even GreenDot can be faked out if the kid uses Daddy's info and has the card sent to another address, which GD and many others will do.

Not to mention the use of "gift cards" which function as credit cards up to their limit and which cards have no info, so the adolescent perp can plug in any info he/she desires.

Try again!

:2 cents:

Tube sites.

Bingo, its the main reason, with tubes on top, everything else is fear mongering :D

I admit there will always be those industrious few kids who will do exactly what you say and go to whatever extreme they have to and get inside a Member's Area. Password-sharing alone would skyrocket.

But again, you gotta try SOMEthing. And the lack of outrage over how EASY and abundant the access to porn is just amazes me.

I blame the The Starr Report back in 1998, when that graphic porn novel was released on this fledgling thing called the "world wide web". Nothing was ever the same after that, the floodgates were OPEN man! Viagra commercials at fucking 10:00 am! "If you have erectile dysfunction..." NO motherfucker! I've got no-caffiene-yet dysfunction and don't want to think about limp (or hard) COCKS at the moment.

Really, I'm left speechless at the lack of outrage by "parents".

I thought nobody can pirate your content and doesn't?

Anyway, if you're using a third party DMCA service you'll quickly discover that there is not a single site out there that is 100% DMCA compliant. What you do with that information is an entirely different thing.

Nope. I said they can not download my protected stream. I also said I had lots of older scenes that were downloaded before I implemented that. I also said that they can screen record (though I have their IP address and username on the vid so it does discourage that to a great extent).
And I also explained (over and over and over) that I do give a small resolution/low bit rate version that they CAN download (it's the version on the mobile site anyway that can't be streamed or protected)

Also I am one of the first clients of Remove Your Content and am very, very aware of who does and doesn't respond to DMCA

I keep mine down to a dull roar. What do you do for Stand Ahead's stuff?

too many stupid people on gfy is the reason

This ....

"Hey check out my new site! Same as every other site out there!" X 100

I wonder if this thread will produce a "what can be done" list

A lot of big programs are behind these "big" tube sites. That isn't going to happen. You guys keep spreading this propaganda that tube sites are the end of the world and the reason for lower sales, but to be honest, have you ever found a HD quality full length video on a tube site? Neither have I and they just don't exist.

File lockers are the biggest issue - that's where the money is going. These guys pay what... $15 a month or more and download Terabytes of full length movies at full cable speed. I know in my area, that can mean up to 100Mb/sec. Anything released within 30 days is easily cataloged and ready for download via forums.

I might want to put on my tin foil hat for a second and think that maybe a program might have their own file locker service running with their own forum posting links to their own content, which hey, a movie here or there being downloaded at 70K-150K/sec. no big deal - would take a downloader 1-2 hours to download a full length HD quality movie, but hey, still getting $15-$30 per month to download unlimited where someone can download it in 10 minutes.

Kind of similar to the old "password sharing" sites of old - when webmasters would "leak" a L/P that gave access for 15 minutes and then lock out. Enough to maybe get a picture set or two, but not enough to get a full length video.

If your going to win the war against porn piracy, go where the money is.... file lockers. :2 cents:

Well....there seems to be no concensus on what's wrong.

From my point of view...people do not want to pay for porn when it's already free. It's NOT bottled water and the free porn works just as good for jacking off (which is the only thing porn is actually used for) as buying a membership.

Now the other people on here seem to think it's because websites just aren't "good" enough.
I would say that Naughty America is a perfect example of why they are wrong. NA shoots some of the best content in the business, and they have NEVER "banged" cards or did anything "shady".
But their stuff is pirated everywhere and their latest scenes are available for free within minutes of release.
Can't make a sale to them to save my soul anymore.

But...let's pretend that facts don't exist and that these people are correct.

Here's all you gotta do:
Shoot some really good porn. Put it on your really good site. And when it's pirated and available for free everywhere, people will just be "nice" and pay for it anyway because they don't mind paying for it and feeling like a chump.

:)
Now everything will be rainbows and unicorns!

I agree Robbie that big programs and companies like Naughty America (and others) are fucked like $2 whores prison-style when it comes to piracy, tubes, free, etc.

As you know, with CM, being in a "niche" offers a wee bit of protection against out-and-out FAILURE because not every tube site will post a CM video, or you would DMCA them, etc. But for huge companies that pay for mass amounts of content being poduced they are indeed FUCKED.

As far as being an affiliate for Naughty America, guess what? You're fucked, too. It's a shame, I am not rooting for NA's demise or anything like that, just pointing out the bigger you are, the more your brand is known, the more you will get hurt by piracy.

This does mean, however, that smaller programs, and niches, can survive better and a little longer in such an environment. You and I Robbie, tho very differant companies, are proof of this. But the future? Fuck all if I know. LOL

Yep. Read the comments on many tube videos and a ton of them are along the lines of "where can I get the full version of this??" and sadly the answer is usually a file locker link, torrents or Usenet.

The thing is though that shows that the demand is there and tubes clips alone are not satisfying for a huge number of surfers.