I know you're just here to troll as always, it's your job to do that so nothing wrong with it, unfortunately for you I'm not biting :)

Try using a different nick on someone who's less familiar with your techniques :2 cents:

any challenge to your ideas is a troll?? me expressing my thoughts is trolling??

seriously if you cant handle being challenged and my points are to difficult for you to combat then just admit it. Or do you expect everyone just to enter your threads with a thumbs up and lols everytime and agree with you or they are some sort of troll eh?

These people first find something to believe in and then start looking for stuff that confirms their believe. It's the typical truther MO. They are idiots.

you edited, anyway ive only ever had this same one nick and many people know me from the days of hahahahahahaha and insidewebmastering after that. multiple nicks isnt my style. Seriously i expected better from you.

lol, n e t p o n d is blocked!

man he can't even answer me, it's too hard for him to have his ideas challenged so he resorts to calling me a fake nick lol.

He's just trolling. He has several fake nicks himself.

Says WarChild/Dirty F :1orglaugh

All of these are quickly explained by something called common sense. We've beat this subject to death here on GFY.

In short....

Yes, the building got crushed into dust. That's what happens when billions and billions of tons of concrete and steel falls a thousand feet.

Yes, with billions and billions of tons of concrete and steel crushing little things like desks and chairs would be expected. However, It's not true that there were "no desks and chairs" undamaged. Clearly someone hasn't watched all of the video footage.

Engines melted but door handles were okay? Well, sometimes that happens in a fire. The front of the car could be destroyed but not the back?

Building number seven didn't "have a fire on one floor". The entire building was moved off of it's foundation when the other two towers fell. The fire raged out of control for like ten hours at the same time. Use common sense here.

The hole in the Pentagon you talk about wasn't at the point of impact, but was IN ANOTHER FUCKING RING - hundreds of yards away from the point of impact.

And ID was found blocks away? Don't be stupid. I saw live massive clouds of debris covering entire blocks.

Misc plane parts found on the scene that shouldn't have been there? Never heard of this. If true, this could be anything. It could have been parts in boxes the plane was carrying in cargo or god knows what.

The plane in PA crashed head first in to the ground. The plane accidents we are used to seeing is when they glide into the ground. This one went head first into the ground at speed. The plane did in fact leave wreckage.

And then one of my favorites... Military exercises.... They have military exercises EVERY MOTHER FUCKING DAY. What do you think our military does every day when we are not at war? Paint rocks? (We did that a lot in the Marines really.)

Sheep.

I always wonder what else these idiots expect. I never got an answer for that though.

2 hour movie made with the most amazing CGI work ever done. Followed by a TV Mini series then the regular series.

for a non voter you sure have a lot of opinions about the government...

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fucking idiot

you pretty much make the wrong conclusions 99.9% of the time.

Isn't that typical of conspiracy looneys?

david icke & alex jones have made absolutely millions from the conspiracy sheep. Heck, I think david icke even has a political following going on.

There may, "just may" be an agenda going on here. How about that for a conspiracy?

The sheep think these guys don't make any money :1orglaugh

If it had collapsed due to fire the collapse would have looked rather different :2 cents:

haha david icke forum even has a tarot etc section on there;
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51

How do they make this stuff up?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thank you, I enjoyed that. Watched the entire video. :thumbsup

These guys are no different than Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter or other political pundits. They know exactly what to say and how to say it to fire up their fan base and get them to spend their money on their products.

pretty sure you just described the World Trade Center bombing of 1993

I wonder if the very same people who believe the government's official story also believe in other mystical wonders, like religion for example.

The government doesn't lie, and a magic man in the sky created life as we know it.

The puzzle pieces don't match up, the science doesn't work, but what the hell, I'll believe it anyway!

Who's calling who the "sheep" in this scenario?

I love this one. Building 7 fell for no reason, right? Sure thing.

WTC 7 was hit by debris when the North Tower fell. Don't be fooled by people saying that WTC 7 was blocks away. It wasn't blocks away; It was across the street from the WTC complex. The only thing between the towers and WTC 7 was WTC 6, which was only ninety feet tall - and WTC 6 was destroyed too (although partially standing the day after after). So debris from the North Tower hits WTC 7, hitting the south face of the building, as well as removing chunks from the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof.

Fire fighters had problems getting into the building after the north tower fell; The entrances were blocked - buried with debris.

So you have a building that was hit with tons of falling debris, that pretty much just went through an earthquake, and now it's on fire for eight or ten hours.

The question shouldn't be "how did it fall" but instead the question should be "how come it didn't fall sooner?".

Meanwhile, back in a science based reality...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

I so not watching another fifteen minutes of bullshit.

Outstanding, some group of architects and engineers made a slick looking video. Great for them. So you really mean to tell me out of the tens of millions of architects and the tens of millions of engineers in the USA... Only a handful believe that WTC 7 falling was anything other than it was? Only a very small percentage of architects and engineers believe this nonsense - shouldn't that tell you something?

this is crazy, wtc7 fell for no apparent reason

Actually at the time of that video it was over 1500 engineers. Shouldn't that tell you something?

Was just wondering, when questioning something that is more then obvious makes you some sorta conspiracy nut job. It almost feels like having the race card pulled on you because you even talked about someone other then a white person.

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https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...XmDVPddCNmFINP

Yeah that's........right across the street. smfh

Buildings fell a block over huh? Or what you witnessed with your own eyes, is they dropped straight down at free fall speed?

I've seen you continually spilling your anti-conspiracy dribble thread after thread. I've never seen anyone support the government the way you do. Idk if your getting paid to spread your nonsense, but no-one that's not getting paid for it will do the continual thread promotion of your pro-government assault on this forum.

Lets take this one - It confuses me the most, how does it show a conspiracy? - Even if it was a conspiracy where do you think they went?

There must be an explanation one way or the other, the explanation doesn't change whatever you believe.

lol - The plot thickens - Rochard is a CIA mole put on GFY to spread misinformation :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh.....

You don't have to be pro government to think that all these conspiracy theories are fucking nuts....

Well, that changes everything. 1500 engineers? That's huge. That's like what - one hundredth of one percent... of the all the engineers in Delaware?

Then define "engineers". Technically I am an Engineer; I have a college degree in Electrical Engineering. Doesn't mean I know jack fucking shit about how buildings fall after earthquakes and being slammed with hundreds of millions of tons of debris. I have a friend of mine who is a construction engineer; Her official job position is "dirt supervisor". No kidding. Her only job to cruise up and down large construction sites and ensure that no dirt is being removed from the work site.

But it's also architects too; My godson's father is an architect and he's so utter fucking stupid that he didn't notice the oil in his car was low and it seized up his engine.

Engineers and architects are stupid people too. And fifteen hundred of them doesn't sound impressive at all.

WTC7 being a controlled demo is a no brainer fact. It was basically admitted to at the time, and after that a few times

it was an insurance scam, like the great san francisco 'fire' that coincidentally happened right after a non-insurable earthquake

Rochard, got time to defend the governments side of The Tuskegee syphilis experiment ?

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The government never lies to us...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=YZBO0fJPg3Y

Really. So it was nothing more than an insurance scam. They killed thousands, sent us to war, and caused billions of dollars in damage just to collect insurance on WTC7.

Sure thing.

You seem to think that I don't believe the government can do wrong. They can, and have. The Tuskegee syphilis experiment is a great example of this. There was another one where the military was doing experiments on US Service men by giving them drugs.

But every single argument of the 9/11 conspiracy theory can be quickly shot down. I've read all of the books, everything from the 9/11 Commission Report to "Debunking 9/11 Debunking". I find it all highly entertaining.

WTC 7 collapsed because it was slammed with millions of tons of concrete and steel, it suffered an earthquake (twice, when each tower fell), and was on fire for hours. How is that difficult to understand?

Lies.

You say I "support the government" yet I think the Secret Service killed Kennedy. Maybe it's just a matter of calling it how I see it?

Clearly the lack of chairs and desks proves it's a conspiracy. I mean, if it was really two planes crashing into towers.... Chairs and desks would still be in one piece, right?

I also love the "molten metal" argument. You say molten metal? Really? I saw it too. No idea what it was. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that the fucking tower was on fire? God only knows what that was....

almost positive that whole war and billions of dollars was based on the loss of the first two towers?

The story at the time was that WTC7 was 'too damaged' and had to be taken down

for example, it took a big plane full of fuel to take down one of the main buildings.. what took down WTC7? if it was damaged by buildings, it would have fallen over

I find thw whole you either believe was 100% an inside job or you implicitly trust the government in every way really strange.

I used to own a tshirt with the words FUCK BUSH in massive letters across the front that I would walk around in, I am not American and think Bush is a war criminal

Has everyone forgotten that despit desperate attempts to tie Iraq and Saddam to 911 it was not possible and many intelligence people have come forward and said they were pressured to find such evidence. Has everyone forgotten that the reason for the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with 911 and was all about supposed hidden weapons of mass destruction? It is the lie of Iraq having these weapons and mobile production facilities that was put to the world as the reason and was found to be a lie. Hard evidence backs up the fact that it was a lie.

The bush administration went to war based on a lie, that is the fucking war crime and why he should be in jail... for fuck sake why orchestrate 911 for the reason of going to the middle east if they cant even tie Iraq to the event??

all this 911 stuff has done is made people forget this fact and buried the bush administrations war crime and lies that resulted in the deaths of thousands. Thats what I find sad.

Not sure how the war was sold in the US but from here it was pretty obvious.

But who profited the most? Who was behind it? Couldn't they have done a lot less damage and had the same results? Did they really plan this out with four planes and explosives all over the place? If the White House was the fourth target, why didn't they discover explosives there?

How many fucking times do I have to explain this?

No fucking planes hit the Bay Bridge and it fell in 1989 because of an earthquake.

WTC 7 was hit by debris that damaged, combined with an earthquake, and then was on fire for eight to ten hours. It wasn't the only other building to fall; WTC 6 was nearly completely destroyed as well. The only difference is the fall of WTC 7 was caught on video.

you forgot to mention 4 blackboxes that evaporated into thin air...because that happens as well everyday....NOT

You forgot all the pentagon videos ( one of the most video taped buildings in the world) that were gathered from all the surrounding areas so we will never see what hit it...

oh and 8 different multi-ton fuselages also evaporated... because that happened in every plane crash in the history of mankind...NOT


you guys will believe just about anything you are fed...and I understand..I use to feel the same way..then I woke up and started to question things that were uncomfortable to me... but once you get past the "uncomfortable stage" a lot of shit falls into place.


Nothing happens on accident.. your life is being guided into a particular way and you don't even know it..

it's called Thermite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

I give the kooks on this board an opportunity to discuss a real conspiracy and not one of them responds to me :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What the fuck is wrong with you! You goddamn imbecile!

He didn't even get that far. He just copies random shit he finds on conspiracy sites.