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Dirty F 02-25-2013 06:04 AM

Oh, and you idiots are the one with silly claims. So YOU are the one who has to show proof of some kind of conspiracy with the government involved.
In 11 years not one person has been able to.
What does that tell you? Think about it, real hard.

scarlettcontent 02-25-2013 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19498961)

at 5 mins on the video sums it all up

John-ACWM 02-25-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19493600)
http://hereticalnotions.com/wp-conte...11/07/polt.jpg

Chandelier monster did it. :winkwink:

:1orglaugh

Dirty F 02-25-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 19498993)
at 5 mins on the video sums it all up

You conspiracy looners are fucking sad, you know that right?

xholly 02-25-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19494104)
You haven't been looking though have you :helpme

Well I have, I actually became fascinated by 911 for a time and I probably know more of the 911 conspiracies and their conception of proof then most of the conspiracy guys themselves. Simply put there is none, just the same tired easily debunked arguments (If YOU care to actually look) from desperate to be special people engaged in a circle jerkoff with each other.

Pretty sure you don't care enough to look however, from what ive seen you call those who challenge you a troll and put them on ignore like I remember you did with scottybuzz, obviously the actions of a true truthseeker.

mikesouth 02-25-2013 09:59 AM

Gulf of Tonkin ring a bell?

wehateporn 02-25-2013 10:07 AM

You are ScottyBuzz and about 200 other nicks :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19499357)
Well I have, I actually became fascinated by 911 for a time and I probably know more of the 911 conspiracies and their conception of proof then most of the conspiracy guys themselves. Simply put there is none, just the same tired easily debunked arguments (If YOU care to actually look) from desperate to be special people engaged in a circle jerkoff with each other.

Pretty sure you don't care enough to look however, from what ive seen you call those who challenge you a troll and put them on ignore like I remember you did with scottybuzz, obviously the actions of a true truthseeker.


xholly 02-25-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19499362)
Gulf of Tonkin ring a bell?

Yes it does, if you are making the point of an example where a government lie was used to escalate war against a foreign nation then fine. Another example is the desperate attempt to tie Iraq to 911 and provide proof of WMDs in Iraq after 911 to the point of having colin Powell lie and present false information to the UN security council to convince the world of the need to invade Iraq. This is where the crime of the administration rests.

If you think about this it really says a lot, if the goal was to invade Iraq and use 911 as the pretext for invasion why not have Iraqis piloting the planes and why not actually just find some fucking wmds in iraq. why have Saudis (US allies) doing the dirty work. For such an elaborate and incredibly risky plan of killing 3000 of their own countrymen it's amazing they didn't think of managing the simple task ff tying Iraq to the event beforehand.

xholly 02-25-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499380)
You are ScottyBuzz and about 200 other nicks :2 cents:

lol of course I am numnuts.

how old were you when you made the choice to leap head first into the moron abyss?

xholly 02-25-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499380)
You are ScottyBuzz and about 200 other nicks :2 cents:

searching for the truth as you always are what videos or text have you read or watched to try to debunk your theories?? any at all?? Real truth seekers do all they can to challenge themselves, its part of the scientific method ya know.

wehateporn 02-25-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19499414)
searching for the truth as you always are what videos or text have you read or watched to try to debunk your theories?? any at all?? Real truth seekers do all they can to challenge themselves, its part of the scientific method ya know.

I know you're just here to troll as always, it's your job to do that so nothing wrong with it, unfortunately for you I'm not biting :)

Try using a different nick on someone who's less familiar with your techniques :2 cents:

xholly 02-25-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499418)
I know you're just here to troll as always, it's your job to do that so nothing wrong with it, unfortunately for you I'm not biting :)

any challenge to your ideas is a troll?? me expressing my thoughts is trolling??

seriously if you cant handle being challenged and my points are to difficult for you to combat then just admit it. Or do you expect everyone just to enter your threads with a thumbs up and lols everytime and agree with you or they are some sort of troll eh?

Dirty F 02-25-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19499414)
searching for the truth as you always are what videos or text have you read or watched to try to debunk your theories?? any at all?? Real truth seekers do all they can to challenge themselves, its part of the scientific method ya know.

These people first find something to believe in and then start looking for stuff that confirms their believe. It's the typical truther MO. They are idiots.

xholly 02-25-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499418)
I know you're just here to troll as always, it's your job to do that so nothing wrong with it, unfortunately for you I'm not biting :)

Try using a different nick on someone who's less familiar with your techniques :2 cents:

you edited, anyway ive only ever had this same one nick and many people know me from the days of hahahahahahaha and insidewebmastering after that. multiple nicks isnt my style. Seriously i expected better from you.

xholly 02-25-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19499430)
you edited, anyway ive only ever had this same one nick and many people know me from the days of hahahahahahaha and insidewebmastering after that. multiple nicks isnt my style. Seriously i expected better from you.

lol, n e t p o n d is blocked!

xholly 02-25-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19499425)
These people first find something to believe in and then start looking for stuff that confirms there believe. It's the typical truther MO. They are idiots.

man he can't even answer me, it's too hard for him to have his ideas challenged so he resorts to calling me a fake nick lol.

Dirty F 02-25-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19499437)
man he can't even answer me, it's too hard for him to have his ideas challenged so he resorts to calling me a fake nick lol.

He's just trolling. He has several fake nicks himself.

wehateporn 02-25-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19499445)
He's just trolling. He has several fake nicks himself.

Says WarChild/Dirty F :1orglaugh

Rochard 02-25-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChad (Post 19498471)
If your too blind to realize it, it's not even worth talking about. The events that happened that day were driven by a technology unknown to the public. Here's a few points to argue or question without wasting to much of my time with you.

1. Structures of towers complete disintegrated into a fine dust and fell at a free fall rate.
2. Not one desk chair or computer was found anywhere.
3. Engine blocks in cars on the streets were completely melted and vanished, yet plastic door handles remained.
4. Building #7 3 to 4 blocks over burned slightly on one floor, then mysteriously free falls with a crimp in the center.
5. Hole in Pentagon was roughly 16 feet in diameter with no damage what so ever where the 2 6 TON engines would of broke the walls on either side.
6. Funniest of them all. ID found blocks away from one of the terrorist flying the plane.
7. Misc plane parts on pentagon lawn were identified as not even being from the orginal plane.
8. Flight in Pennsylvania had ZERO wreckage.. NOTHING vanished into thin air, just a crator.
9. Day of 911, they just happen to be having a military "exercise" of planes hitting the twin towers and have all our military planes hundreds of miles away.

#6 is the one that really got me thinking about the whole thing... How does a passport in someones pocket, fly out of his pocket through a crashed plane into a burning building and end up blocks away for someone to just pick it up and identify it. I mean come on man. Not to mention, the twin towers and building 7 are the only buildings in HISTORY to fall from a fire. Buildings have burned 8 - 10 floors for over 20 hours and never fell. The way the towers were built, the floors would have collapsed onto the next floor, it wouldn't have been an 8 second free fall.

All of these are quickly explained by something called common sense. We've beat this subject to death here on GFY.

In short....

Yes, the building got crushed into dust. That's what happens when billions and billions of tons of concrete and steel falls a thousand feet.

Yes, with billions and billions of tons of concrete and steel crushing little things like desks and chairs would be expected. However, It's not true that there were "no desks and chairs" undamaged. Clearly someone hasn't watched all of the video footage.

Engines melted but door handles were okay? Well, sometimes that happens in a fire. The front of the car could be destroyed but not the back?

Building number seven didn't "have a fire on one floor". The entire building was moved off of it's foundation when the other two towers fell. The fire raged out of control for like ten hours at the same time. Use common sense here.

The hole in the Pentagon you talk about wasn't at the point of impact, but was IN ANOTHER FUCKING RING - hundreds of yards away from the point of impact.

And ID was found blocks away? Don't be stupid. I saw live massive clouds of debris covering entire blocks.

Misc plane parts found on the scene that shouldn't have been there? Never heard of this. If true, this could be anything. It could have been parts in boxes the plane was carrying in cargo or god knows what.

The plane in PA crashed head first in to the ground. The plane accidents we are used to seeing is when they glide into the ground. This one went head first into the ground at speed. The plane did in fact leave wreckage.

And then one of my favorites... Military exercises.... They have military exercises EVERY MOTHER FUCKING DAY. What do you think our military does every day when we are not at war? Paint rocks? (We did that a lot in the Marines really.)

Sheep.

Dirty F 02-25-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19499495)
All of these are quickly explained by something called common sense. We've beat this subject to death here on GFY.

In short....

Yes, the building got crushed into dust. That's what happens when billions and billions of tons of concrete and steel falls a thousand feet.

I always wonder what else these idiots expect. I never got an answer for that though.

pornguy 02-25-2013 11:11 AM

2 hour movie made with the most amazing CGI work ever done. Followed by a TV Mini series then the regular series.

PR_Glen 02-25-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 19493912)
There would be 0 repercussions just like every war since ww2, pay attention , Im not even American and its well known knowledge that your government has lie every time since ww2 out side of 9/11 so far to engage in war.

for a non voter you sure have a lot of opinions about the government...

scottybuzz 02-25-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499463)
Says WarChild/Dirty F :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fucking idiot

you pretty much make the wrong conclusions 99.9% of the time.

Dirty F 02-25-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19499521)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fucking idiot

you pretty much make the wrong conclusions 99.9% of the time.

Isn't that typical of conspiracy looneys?

scottybuzz 02-25-2013 11:27 AM

david icke & alex jones have made absolutely millions from the conspiracy sheep. Heck, I think david icke even has a political following going on.

There may, "just may" be an agenda going on here. How about that for a conspiracy?

Dirty F 02-25-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19499533)
david icke & alex jones have made absolutely millions from the conspiracy sheep. Heck, I think david icke even has a political following going on.

There may, "just may" be an agenda going on here. How about that for a conspiracy?

The sheep think these guys don't make any money :1orglaugh

wehateporn 02-25-2013 11:33 AM

If it had collapsed due to fire the collapse would have looked rather different :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19499495)

Building number seven didn't "have a fire on one floor". The entire building was moved off of it's foundation when the other two towers fell. The fire raged out of control for like ten hours at the same time. Use common sense here.


wehateporn 02-25-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19499510)
for a non voter you sure have a lot of opinions about the government...


scottybuzz 02-25-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19499540)
The sheep think these guys don't make any money :1orglaugh

haha david icke forum even has a tarot etc section on there;
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=51

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The Number Eleven

?If ten is the number which marks the perfection of Divine order, then eleven is an addition to it, subversive of and undoing that order. If twelve is the number which marks the perfection of Divine government, then eleven falls short of it. So that whether we regard it as being 10 + 1, or 12 - 1, it is the number which marks, disorder, disorganization, imperfection, and disintegration.? It is the elventh hour.
11 falls between the harmony of 10 and the order of 12. Disharmony, chaos.

The Two 9/11?s and the Two 3/11?s

9/11/1973 - Salvador Allende was deposed in a coup orchestrated in large part by Henry Kissinger.
9/11/2001 - The World Trade Center Attacks. Henry Kissinger is appointed head of 9/11 commission by George W. Bush, but finally resigns due to a reluctance to reveal his client list.
911 days after the WTC Attacks on
3/11/2004 - The Atocha train bombings take place in Madrid, killing 191, wounding thousands and changing the outcome of the Spanish elections, held three days later.
3/11/2011 - Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami kill close to 20,000 in Japan, countless damage, and the beginning the ongoing Fukushima nuclear incident.

Four incidents occuring on the eleventh day, connnected by a 911 day signature. Two are left for one final day.

The logical sequece isf 9/3/1, two 9?s, two 3?s, and now two 1?s followed by 11. 11/11/11

The Significance of November 11

"the eleventh (hour) of the eleventh (day) of the eleventh (month)" of 1918 the Armistice was signed ending WWI. The Great War brought then end of Czarist, Orthodox Russia and the birth of the Soviet Union. It ended the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the German Empire and laid the way for the Third Riech and WWII.

The contreversial undergound classic, Cactus Land, predicted the Arab Spring and the NATO War on Libya, and it also predicts calamity around the number ?1111? The author has decided to give it away, stating, ?it needs to be read, this vision, given to me, I want to give to those who seek? You can downloand the book here for free at this link Cactus Land
How do they make this stuff up?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

StinkyPink 02-25-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19494202)

Thank you, I enjoyed that. Watched the entire video. :thumbsup

kane 02-25-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19499533)
david icke & alex jones have made absolutely millions from the conspiracy sheep. Heck, I think david icke even has a political following going on.

There may, "just may" be an agenda going on here. How about that for a conspiracy?

These guys are no different than Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter or other political pundits. They know exactly what to say and how to say it to fire up their fan base and get them to spend their money on their products.

_Richard_ 02-25-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19494424)
Exactly - They could have used a fake suitcase nuke carried by a fake terrorist who was caught just in time - Die Hard style.

The 'nuke' and the terrorist could have been tied to any country. It would have been an excuse to go after whoever and whatever they wanted.

That's just one of a dozen scenarios I can think of just sitting here that would have done the same job but with much less damage and less risk of being discovered.

If I can think of them then I am damn sure that a bunch of war mongers in the Pentagon could have.

Its too messy to have been a conspiracy.....

pretty sure you just described the World Trade Center bombing of 1993

BFT3K 02-25-2013 01:37 PM

I wonder if the very same people who believe the government's official story also believe in other mystical wonders, like religion for example.

The government doesn't lie, and a magic man in the sky created life as we know it.

The puzzle pieces don't match up, the science doesn't work, but what the hell, I'll believe it anyway!

Who's calling who the "sheep" in this scenario?

Rochard 02-25-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19499556)
If it had collapsed due to fire the collapse would have looked rather different :2 cents:

I love this one. Building 7 fell for no reason, right? Sure thing.

WTC 7 was hit by debris when the North Tower fell. Don't be fooled by people saying that WTC 7 was blocks away. It wasn't blocks away; It was across the street from the WTC complex. The only thing between the towers and WTC 7 was WTC 6, which was only ninety feet tall - and WTC 6 was destroyed too (although partially standing the day after after). So debris from the North Tower hits WTC 7, hitting the south face of the building, as well as removing chunks from the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof.

Fire fighters had problems getting into the building after the north tower fell; The entrances were blocked - buried with debris.

So you have a building that was hit with tons of falling debris, that pretty much just went through an earthquake, and now it's on fire for eight or ten hours.

The question shouldn't be "how did it fall" but instead the question should be "how come it didn't fall sooner?".

BFT3K 02-25-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19499956)
I love this one. Building 7 fell for no reason, right? Sure thing.

WTC 7 was hit by debris when the North Tower fell. Don't be fooled by people saying that WTC 7 was blocks away. It wasn't blocks away; It was across the street from the WTC complex. The only thing between the towers and WTC 7 was WTC 6, which was only ninety feet tall - and WTC 6 was destroyed too (although partially standing the day after after). So debris from the North Tower hits WTC 7, hitting the south face of the building, as well as removing chunks from the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof.

Fire fighters had problems getting into the building after the north tower fell; The entrances were blocked - buried with debris.

So you have a building that was hit with tons of falling debris, that pretty much just went through an earthquake, and now it's on fire for eight or ten hours.

The question shouldn't be "how did it fall" but instead the question should be "how come it didn't fall sooner?".

Meanwhile, back in a science based reality...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

Rochard 02-25-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19499996)
Meanwhile, back in a science based reality...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

I so not watching another fifteen minutes of bullshit.

Outstanding, some group of architects and engineers made a slick looking video. Great for them. So you really mean to tell me out of the tens of millions of architects and the tens of millions of engineers in the USA... Only a handful believe that WTC 7 falling was anything other than it was? Only a very small percentage of architects and engineers believe this nonsense - shouldn't that tell you something?

scarlettcontent 02-25-2013 04:23 PM

this is crazy, wtc7 fell for no apparent reason

BigChad 02-25-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19500072)
Only a very small percentage of architects and engineers believe this nonsense - shouldn't that tell you something?

Actually at the time of that video it was over 1500 engineers. Shouldn't that tell you something?

Was just wondering, when questioning something that is more then obvious makes you some sorta conspiracy nut job. It almost feels like having the race card pulled on you because you even talked about someone other then a white person.

BigChad 02-25-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19499996)
Meanwhile, back in a science based reality...

:thumbsup:thumbsup

BigChad 02-25-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19499956)
It wasn't blocks away; It was across the street from the WTC complex.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...XmDVPddCNmFINP

Yeah that's........right across the street. smfh

Buildings fell a block over huh? Or what you witnessed with your own eyes, is they dropped straight down at free fall speed?


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