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tony286 03-19-2013 06:49 PM

At Panera, they should put up a sign that says your mother doesnt work here pick up after yourself. It amazes me that people leave a fucking mess, when there are trash cans all over the place.

bigluv 03-19-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19536048)
Based on the service I currently get in some places, that is just fine.

I would so love to go to a bar where we push a button and the drink is made and
we pay a machine because I'm sick of the smart-ass bartender type that talks shit to
you if you order a drink he doesn't want to make and is just a prick in general.

I have never seen a professional other then bartending where being a jackass prick was
a basic trait of the worker.

Stop ordering shirley temple's, you'll be fine.

bigluv 03-19-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 19536189)
The crazy thing about this would be that the restaurant would build the cost of the employee's wages into the menu and the " tip" just becomes mandatory. Either way you pay. Now that waitress that fills your drink is in less of a hurry because she could care less what your dining experience was, so long as you don't complain

This is idiotic. There's many industries that manage perfectly good service without the whole tipping angle involved at all.

Waiting is a shit job and the sooner it's always paid like one the better.

brassmonkey 03-19-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19536207)
All that will happen then is the prices on the menu will go up. Either way, they win, you lose. If you don't want to tip your server, stay home and cook for yourself and deal with the mess you leave. People who don't tip are shit birds.

i do most of my cooking thank god. fuck those ass holes. if my friends cood my food id break them off sum paper tho

ErectMedia 03-19-2013 06:57 PM

I'd rather have them go topless than tipless as I prefer full serve and have no problem tipping 25-50% on a regular basis.

One time I was at the grocery store and decided to try the self checkout lane at like 11-12 p.m. when the store was dead. 3 cashiers sitting on a bench talking watching me self checkout. Felt like saying get up bitch and do this shit. You can keep the manual labor if I wanted that I wouldn't be going out to eat. :2 cents:

blackmonsters 03-19-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 19536298)
Stop ordering shirley temple's, you'll be fine.

I order whiskey and soda, that's it.
But it pricks me to see the bartender "prick out" on the other customers.

:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 03-19-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19536358)
I order whiskey and soda, that's it.
But it pricks me to see the bartender "prick out" on the other customers.

:1orglaugh

holla at me dogg link shit

kane 03-19-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 19536081)
If you're going to be a server anywhere, that's the place to do it. All of your customers are lined up like an assembly line, you bring shit out to them essentially on a schedule, you have an extremely limited menu, and you probably have 25 "tables" at a time. It can't get much easier than that for a server. Plus you get a huge fucking section of people all to yourself. And you repeat this several times a night.

Not to mention that half your section will likely be drunk or feeling good and many of them are on vacation so they are more likely to tip higher.

The piece I read was actually an interview with one of the knights from there and he was talking about how most of the waitresses make more money than the knights. He said the ones that do the best are the ones that yell at the customers and really get into the role of being a bar wench from the medieval era.

Lykos 03-20-2013 06:05 AM

I love Red Lobster but no tip sucks...

Barefootsies 03-20-2013 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19536297)
At Panera, they should put up a sign that says your mother doesnt work here pick up after yourself.


PR_Glen 03-20-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 19536189)
The crazy thing about this would be that the restaurant would build the cost of the employee's wages into the menu and the " tip" just becomes mandatory. Either way you pay. Now that waitress that fills your drink is in less of a hurry because she could care less what your dining experience was, so long as you don't complain

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19536207)
All that will happen then is the prices on the menu will go up. Either way, they win, you lose. If you don't want to tip your server, stay home and cook for yourself and deal with the mess you leave. People who don't tip are shit birds.

thank you!


I don't know what kind of shit holes the rest of you want to eat in but if I have to wait in a line to pay and don't get full service I'm going somewhere else.. may as well be burger king if i have to do that..


oh.. 50 people who probably shouldn't be eating out! ;)

Penny24Seven 03-20-2013 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19535999)
Waiters in the US make crazy amounts of money in tips and still cry all day long how they have to survive on tips.

once again franck knows the USA haha where did you get this watching TV? I know a lot of hot ass waitresses and they make good money but also but their buts if they wanna do it too. If they wanna take on 6 tables and still make everyone happy they have to have a lot of things besides looks to get it done. I would not want that job.

Barefootsies 03-20-2013 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19535999)
Waiters in the US make crazy amounts of money in tips and still cry all day long how they have to survive on tips.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19536078)


TheSquealer 03-20-2013 07:39 AM

Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.

tony286 03-20-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19537176)
Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.

When they do a good job and get stiffed then what?

Tom_PM 03-20-2013 07:50 AM

Society would not collapse if the system was repaired/changed. Just look at some of these stories. A guy gives a tip and sees the waitress took more money on a receipt doesn't bug you? Another guy has a waiter take almost as much as the food costs and that's not a problem? The phrase "mandatory tip" exists and it's no biggie? By reading this you agree to pay me $10 via paypal. If more than 6 of you read it, it's $20.

TheSquealer 03-20-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19537197)
When they do a good job and get stiffed then what?

When you get struck by lightening... then what?

RebelR 03-20-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 19536301)
This is idiotic. There's many industries that manage perfectly good service without the whole tipping angle involved at all.

Waiting is a shit job and the sooner it's always paid like one the better.

Its true there are many other industries that do have great service without the tipping angle, but many of them are paid well to do it. But there are many industries that show really poorly as far as service is concerned. Not sure where you are from, but I would argue that service in the U.S for some reason is really above par. Especially in restaurants, so much so that I think they take it a bit too far. Compared with the few cities I've visited in Europe where service was apathetic at best. Here in Canada its somewhat similar to the U.S, but a step down (our wages are higher so the tip % tends to be a little lower)

It does take a certain type of person to be in that type of job. They eat a lot of shit some days and still have to maintain that smile, and generally they are doing it for an hour at a time, not just the quick 2 minute interaction.


I actually like tipping for good service. If I go to my local coffee shop and the person remembers how I like my coffee, they should be rewarded for it. They don't have to remember, but it shows that bit extra.

TheSquealer 03-20-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19537201)
Society would not collapse if the system was repaired/changed. Just look at some of these stories. A guy gives a tip and sees the waitress took more money on a receipt doesn't bug you? Another guy has a waiter take almost as much as the food costs and that's not a problem? The phrase "mandatory tip" exists and it's no biggie? By reading this you agree to pay me $10 via paypal. If more than 6 of you read it, it's $20.

Apparently, it will. It seems people can't choose to be or not be wait staff in a crap restaurant where they won't make any money at all. Also, it appears that consumers can't vote for what they want with their Dollars in a capitalist nation. What to do... what to do. How do we create this perfect Utopia where everyone just wakes up and gets everything they need handed to them while doing the absolute bare minimum and never having to try???

Tom_PM 03-20-2013 08:05 AM

When people pull out of dining out entirely because they've been burnt on tips then the scale could be tipping the other way, pun intended. :2 cents:

Barefootsies 03-20-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19537176)
Sigh... another discussion between those who feel they're entitled to be paid no matter how they perform and those who feel they should be paid based on their performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19537211)
Apparently, it will. It seems people can't choose to be or not be wait staff in a crap restaurant where they won't make any money at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19537211)
it appears that consumers can't vote for what they want with their Dollars in a capitalist nation. What to do... what to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19537211)
How do we create this perfect Utopia where everyone just wakes up and gets everything they need handed to them while doing the absolute bare minimum and never having to try???


sojproductions 03-20-2013 08:43 AM

good service = tip, bad service = no tip, that's the way it should be world wide, end of. If someone sucks at their job why the fuck should they be rewarded, I don't expect it from my clients so why should I accept it myself. Employers should pay their staff appropriately, they are the real winners... $2 per hour, wtf?!?!


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