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baddog 03-23-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19542901)
To tell you the truth i thought JFK and baddog were the same person when i first came here.

You would not believe the number of people that mix us up in real life. It has gotten to the point that if someone starts talking to me that I don't recognize; I presume they think I am him. I don't see the resemblance myself.


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Captain Kawaii 03-24-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia (Post 19542807)
#75 FBI Agents unplugging spammers servers :thumbsup

Thank you, FBI Agents. Spammer must be a fan of this thread. Almost stopped now.

Captain Kawaii 03-24-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19542940)
Thank you, FBI Agents. Spammer must be a fan of this thread. Almost stopped now.

LOL. I spoke too soon.

Probably spoofs from a VPN server but partial list

streev.com
datingsologirlz.com
myexbf.com
sillypornsluts.com
teentubespass.com

if these are your domains and you are not sending child porn and beast links you may wish to sort out who is fucking with you.

AdultKing 03-24-2013 03:46 AM

The matter at hand has a certain currency and should be treated seriously.

In regard to Motherless, please report illegal content first to the CyberTip Line

http://www.missingkids.com/CybertipLine

Do not assume someone else has made a report, everyone who sees this activity should report the information

and then follow up with a call to the FBI Office at Kew Gardens NY, they will take the required information and may ask for copies of the emails.

Federal Bureau Of Investigation
8002 Kew Gardens Rd, Kew Gardens
Call 718.286.7100

They have several cyber and high tech crime units handling various matters that may be relevant in this case.

"To stay in front of current and emerging trends, we gather and share information and intelligence with public and private sector partners worldwide."

rowan 03-24-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19542984)
The matter at hand has a certain currency and should be treated seriously.

Problem is that this appears to be a joe job whose sole intention is to generate heat for otherwise legal sites. None of the multiple URLs I've seen linked in the spam suggest the site contained any CP or zoo content.

If this is someone's idea of a cool way to generate some extra traffic then it's a pretty fucked up one.

AdultKing 03-24-2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 19542999)
Problem is that this appears to be a joe job whose sole intention is to generate heat for otherwise legal sites. None of the multiple URLs I've seen linked in the spam suggest the site contained any CP or zoo content.

Correct, however the Motherless connection has some currency and I was referencing what should happen in relation to questionable content found on Motherless.

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If this is someone's idea of a cool way to generate some extra traffic then it's a pretty fucked up one.
Agreed. No shortage of very dumb people in the traffic business.

TheSquealer 03-24-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 19542999)
Problem is that this appears to be a joe job whose sole intention is to generate heat for otherwise legal sites. None of the multiple URLs I've seen linked in the spam suggest the site contained any CP or zoo content.

If this is someone's idea of a cool way to generate some extra traffic then it's a pretty fucked up one.

Uhmm... I would say thats the exact point. "Plausible deniability". This is someones retarded traffic generation scheme. The "Download CP" and those phrases are simply to get the highest % possible to open the emails and highest % possible to click the links to sites.

I went through almost every email i received. My impression was that someone was trying to generate traffic to a few crap CJ sites by blasting out a huge number of seemingly unrelated emails. Some of the emails had malformed affiliate links to crakrevenue, to streamate and to other sites. Some of them were about unrelated things like buying watches.

Seriously you guys... if someone wanted to attack someone specific, wouldn't it make a great deal of sense to just do it? If you wanted to hurt streamate or crakrevenue or anyone, uhmm... wouldn't you just blast those sites in conjunction with the offending terms/content? Why mask it with a ton of random email about credit cards, other sites, fake affiliate links, rolex's etc? You'd just do it and move on. The only reason to mask everything is to hide your intent and cover your tracks.

So, i'm thinking "funny, someone is trying to hide their tracks by mixing up all these emails... this suggests there must be an intention to generate traffic to something and cover the tracks or at least make it confusing and deflect a lot of the heat"

Then... guess what?!!??! This thread is created and ONE person. ONE. Just ONE. One single person called "adultTRAFFIC" is here saying a few basic things over and over "its not a big deal",.... "No reason to report it to anyone",.... "nothing to see here",.... "nothing illegal in the emails"... etc etc. Saying all these things even though it would seem to be self evident why everyone see's "CP" and so on and understands the need to make everyone aware whats going on, to check their accounts, to track them down, shut them down etc. It should be pretty obvious why no one wants to be associated with that and why it bears investigating at least... yet he wants you to stop asking questions, stop telling people, stop talking about it and just move on. Interesting. We do what we are motivated to do. Why is he so motivated to tell you to forget about it and move on?

Here's a simple fact of human behavior. We do what we are motivated to do. So people say "wow, i'm getting tons of emails telling me to download CP, bestiality movies, credit card numbers etc" and then a guy shows up acting like a lunatic (one person mind you, not 3, not 5, not 10) and is excessively hostile and attacking everyone involved you have to ask "whats in it for him"... "why is he so motivated to 1) convince people its not a big deal and 2) convince people theres no reason to tell sponsors and ad networks and 3) convince people there's nothing to report to anyone". He then goes further and wants you to believe HE has absolutely nothing to gain or lose by you reporting or not reporting which certainly contradicts his intensely emotional response and attempts to influence everyones behavior to believe its no big deal and to not report it to anyone. That doesn't add up.

When I look at the situation, it seems pretty obvious that he either knows who's doing it or is involved. Otherwise, as he's stated there is no motivation whatsoever to care at all. His behavior however, quite clearly indicates the exact opposite is true. He seems to have some inordinately strong opinions on it and opinions that everyone should do nothing about it.

Captain Kawaii 03-24-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19543114)
Uhmm... I would say thats the exact point. "Plausible deniability". This is someones retarded traffic generation scheme. The "Download CP" and those phrases are simply to get the highest % possible to open the emails and highest % possible to click the links to sites.

I went through almost every email i received. My impression was that someone was trying to generate traffic to a few crap CJ sites by blasting out a huge number of seemingly unrelated emails. Some of the emails had malformed affiliate links to crakrevenue, to streamate and to other sites. Some of them were about unrelated things like buying watches.

Seriously you guys... if someone wanted to attack someone specific, wouldn't it make a great deal of sense to just do it? If you wanted to hurt streamate or crakrevenue or anyone, uhmm... wouldn't you just blast those sites in conjunction with the offending terms/content? Why mask it with a ton of random email about credit cards, other sites, fake affiliate links, rolex's etc? You'd just do it and move on. The only reason to mask everything is to hide your intent and cover your tracks.

So, i'm thinking "funny, someone is trying to hide their tracks by mixing up all these emails... this suggests there must be an intention to generate traffic to something and cover the tracks or at least make it confusing and deflect a lot of the heat"

Then... guess what?!!??! This thread is created and ONE person. ONE. Just ONE. One single person called "adultTRAFFIC" is here saying a few basic things over and over "its not a big deal",.... "No reason to report it to anyone",.... "nothing to see here",.... "nothing illegal in the emails"... etc etc. Saying all these things even though it would seem to be self evident why everyone see's "CP" and so on and understands the need to make everyone aware whats going on, to check their accounts, to track them down, shut them down etc. It should be pretty obvious why no one wants to be associated with that and why it bears investigating at least... yet he wants you to stop asking questions, stop telling people, stop talking about it and just move on. Interesting. We do what we are motivated to do. Why is he so motivated to tell you to forget about it and move on?

Here's a simple fact of human behavior. We do what we are motivated to do. So people say "wow, i'm getting tons of emails telling me to download CP, bestiality movies, credit card numbers etc" and then a guy shows up acting like a lunatic (one person mind you, not 3, not 5, not 10) and is excessively hostile and attacking everyone involved you have to ask "whats in it for him"... "why is he so motivated to 1) convince people its not a big deal and 2) convince people theres no reason to tell sponsors and ad networks and 3) convince people there's nothing to report to anyone". He then goes further and wants you to believe HE has absolutely nothing to gain or lose by you reporting or not reporting which certainly contradicts his intensely emotional response and attempts to influence everyones behavior to believe its no big deal and to not report it to anyone. That doesn't add up.

When I look at the situation, it seems pretty obvious that he either knows who's doing it or is involved. Otherwise, as he's stated there is no motivation whatsoever to care at all. His behavior however, quite clearly indicates the exact opposite is true. He seems to have some inordinately strong opinions on it and opinions that everyone should do nothing about it.

I think that sums it up, Squealer. He is sending links now to some blogs with the 12 yo reference now.

I'm going to call the 718 number on Monday and also report to the missing kids line. Especially the e-mail address. Thanks for that info, AK.

Motherless is still a cesspool and should be gone. The dipshit sending the links can expect to have a spotlight turned on him on Monday. No matter whats in the links I think what he does not get is that US gov does not take kindly to promoting the concept of CP in any way shape or form.
If he is in the US I hope they do a number on him. If he is not I am told FBI will deal with it via local authorities. I've asked him to stop and he refuses.
Enjoy the results.

Captain Kawaii 03-24-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19542897)
Thank you for showing how clueless you truly are. He has never said I have stolen his clients because I have not. I think it is time for you to ban yourself.

Hopefully he'll get his GED in jail.

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19543353)
I think that sums it up, Squealer. He is sending links now to some blogs with the 12 yo reference now.

I'm going to call the 718 number on Monday and also report to the missing kids line. Especially the e-mail address. Thanks for that info, AK.

Motherless is still a cesspool and should be gone. The dipshit sending the links can expect to have a spotlight turned on him on Monday. No matter whats in the links I think what he does not get is that US gov does not take kindly to promoting the concept of CP in any way shape or form.
If he is in the US I hope they do a number on him. If he is not I am told FBI will deal with it via local authorities. I've asked him to stop and he refuses.
Enjoy the results.

You asked who to stop? Stop what? Somehow I dont think whoever is doing this will stop because you asked them on a forum. But if you think you can make it stop them please do so. Good luck!

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19542897)
Thank you for showing how clueless you truly are. He has never said I have stolen his clients because I have not. I think it is time for you to ban yourself.

Originally Posted by JFK View Post
I will confirm the above, I used to have Baddog shooting for me for years. Got him in places where he never could of gotten without my help. He treated people with courtesy and respect and he was liked.

When he went on his own, I had voiced my dissaproval of the move to him. Up to this point we have been friends for years.

Now the dilema, do I stop being friends with him over this, or not ? Ignore him completely, like I do with others ?

I decided to have friendship take presedence over business and put aside my feelings on the matter.

At first I was told he was'nt competing for the same clientel, that his motives for doing this was different them mine, as it evolved up to now, things have changed.

However, we are still friends and I still dont approve. But we still sit down for drinks here and there and shoot the shit.

Adulttraffic, I appreciate the loyalty, Thank You! I did'nt think my post would cause a Tempest in a Tea Pot. I generally do not to post in his industry picture threads, in others I do from time to time.

So let me explain what you did wrong here..
JFK: I will confirm the above, I used to have Baddog shooting for me for years.
So.. you are effectively an employee.
JFK: When he went on his own, I had voiced my dissaproval of the move to him. Up to this point we have been friends for years.
You decided you could copy his ideas and benefit from them.
JFK: At first I was told he was'nt competing for the same clientel, that his motives for doing this was different them mine, as it evolved up to now, things have changed.
Looks like not only did you steal his ideas and his clients too!
Why is this so difficult for you to understand Baddog? I called you a thief because that's exactly what you did. You not only took his entire business concept but took his clients as well.

baddog 03-24-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543548)
So let me explain what you did wrong here..
JFK: I will confirm the above, I used to have Baddog shooting for me for years.
So.. you are effectively an employee.

And this is where your problem starts. You do not know shit, deal with it. What makes someone an employee and how would that apply to me?

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543570)
And this is where your problem starts. You do not know shit, deal with it. What makes someone an employee and how would that apply to me?

aaaw.. did i hurt your feelings baddog? I'm glad you never worked for me! And after being exposed I'm sure their are many others who would have the same opinion.
He said you took pictures for HIM, not the other way around. Spin it anyway you like but you are still working for him and dosent matter in what capacity.
You stole his entire business concept.. dosent matter if it was 10 years ago or 1 month.

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 19542999)
Problem is that this appears to be a joe job whose sole intention is to generate heat for otherwise legal sites. None of the multiple URLs I've seen linked in the spam suggest the site contained any CP or zoo content.

If this is someone's idea of a cool way to generate some extra traffic then it's a pretty fucked up one.

Is this true? Can their actually be someone left on this forum with more then 1/2 a brain left?
My god.. it is true! You are exactly correct! Why in hell would anyone want to draw that kind of heat because they want some traffic?
Thank you for your post, even though it was clearly "obvious"
And the rest of you retards, go call the fbi and cia while your at it. I wish you well in your silly crusade against fighting something you clearly have no clue about.

baddog 03-24-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543612)
aaaw.. did i hurt your feelings baddog? I'm glad you never worked for me! And after being exposed I'm sure their are many others who would have the same opinion.
He said you took pictures for HIM, not the other way around. Spin it anyway you like but you are still working for him and dosent matter in what capacity.
You stole his entire business concept.. dosent matter if it was 10 years ago or 1 month.

Here is the problem; you do not know what you are talking about, at all. You know one side of part of a story; that hardly puts you in the position of knowing WTF you are talking about.

I have never been even close to being an employee; there is only one logo that can go on any phot. To suggest that because I pick up sponsors he doesn't is stealing from him is inane. Were you aware that some companies have the audacity to advertise via multiple outlets?

Phoenix 03-24-2013 06:47 PM

i have no clue who would send such bullshit.
it has been going on for days....annoying as fuck.

Captain Kawaii 03-24-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19543767)
i have no clue who would send such bullshit.
it has been going on for days....annoying as fuck.

Its probably the guy trying to change the subject/focus of thread. Thats what people seem to think. Its 5 years for each time they send to someone under 18 right?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-24-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19542693)

3) My bizarre attitude. I like to show that GFY is nothing more then a bunch of whining idiots that have no clue. Did I prove this wrong? I think not.

http://www.crakrevenue.com/images/trophy.jpg

Congrats! You proved to me that you have a bizarre attitude, and that you are a whining idiot with no clue! :thumbsup

:stoned

ADG

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19543781)
http://www.crakrevenue.com/images/trophy.jpg

Congrats! You proved to me that you have a bizarre attitude, and that you are a whining idiot with no clue! :thumbsup

:stoned

ADG

Really? is that the best you can come up with?

TheSquealer 03-24-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19543781)
http://www.crakrevenue.com/images/trophy.jpg

Congrats! You proved to me that you have a bizarre attitude, and that you are a whining idiot with no clue! :thumbsup

:stoned

ADG

Please don't bother him, as he's now fully engrossed in a little misdirection by attacking baddog for something completely unrelated to anything in this thread. He really needs to focus.

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543764)
Here is the problem; you do not know what you are talking about, at all. You know one side of part of a story; that hardly puts you in the position of knowing WTF you are talking about.

I have never been even close to being an employee; there is only one logo that can go on any phot. To suggest that because I pick up sponsors he doesn't is stealing from him is inane. Were you aware that some companies have the audacity to advertise via multiple outlets?

OK.. you were NEVER an employee of his. So tell me this.. Is it still ok for you to fuck your friend and start up the same exact business as him? and then stab him in the back further by going after his clients? I'm not making anything up. JFK posted exactly what happened and how he felt about it. Another question.. When you go have a drink with your old friend do you think about how you could put another knife into his back?

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 07:40 PM

But your both still friends now.. so nothing you did to fuck him in the past matter's anymore. I get it.. thats how you excuse your past behavior towards your friends. I'm glad your no friend of mine!

Supz 03-24-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543842)
OK.. you were NEVER an employee of his. So tell me this.. Is it still ok for you to fuck your friend and start up the same exact business as him? and then stab him in the back further by going after his clients? I'm not making anything up. JFK posted exactly what happened and how he felt about it. Another question.. When you go have a drink with your old friend do you think about how you could put another knife into his back?

Tell this bullshit to Bill Gates. Steve Jobs didnt cry about it, he went and made his mark anyway. Business is business. Friendship is friendship. There is competition in every business. If you knew someone on this board, and told them how good you were doing with your Teen Tube site, would you not be friends with them in they started one as well?

baddog 03-24-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543842)
OK.. you were NEVER an employee of his. So tell me this.. Is it still ok for you to fuck your friend and start up the same exact business as him? and then stab him in the back further by going after his clients? I'm not making anything up. JFK posted exactly what happened and how he felt about it. Another question.. When you go have a drink with your old friend do you think about how you could put another knife into his back?

Dude, all you are doing is showing that you know very little. Have you ever heard that there are three sides to every story? You have heard a small portion of one side; nothing more. :2 cents:

baddog 03-24-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19543862)
Tell this bullshit to Bill Gates. Steve Jobs didnt cry about it, he went and made his mark anyway. Business is business. Friendship is friendship. There is competition in every business. If you knew someone on this board, and told them how good you were doing with your Teen Tube site, would you not be friends with them in they started one as well?

:thumbsup

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19543862)
Tell this bullshit to Bill Gates. Steve Jobs didnt cry about it, he went and made his mark anyway. Business is business. Friendship is friendship. There is competition in every business. If you knew someone on this board, and told them how good you were doing with your Teen Tube site, would you not be friends with them in they started one as well?

Tell what to who? I dont really give a fuck either way. Just pointing out the facts is all.

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543872)
:thumbsup

Whatever makes you sleep well at night baddog. As I said before, glad your no friend of mine. And just because you can steal an idea dont make it right.

baddog 03-24-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543874)
Tell what to who? I dont really give a fuck either way. Just pointing out the facts is all.

:1orglaugh No you are not. :2 cents:

baddog 03-24-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543876)
Whatever makes you sleep well at night baddog. As I said before, glad your no friend of mine. And just because you can steal an idea dont make it right.

There are no worries about my attempting to strike a friendship with you and did Lightspeed steal an idea from Cybererotica? Did Lykos steal an idea from Paul Markham?

BAKO 03-24-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19542501)
Report what stupid? Please take the time and fucking read the entire post before you make yourself look even more idiotic.
And also.. pushing what boundaries? Just because you may not like said content dosent make it illegal. Christ you guys are sooo fucking stupid.

Save your breath the guy is a dumb ass

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19543887)
Save your breath the guy is a dumb ass

Holy shit! Another post with a clue. No surprise hes from adultcentro, a great company that actually creates their own ideas and capitalizes on them! pun intended towards baddog
I'm just having fun, I like to kick around the gfy idiots in my spare time.

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543883)
There are no worries about my attempting to strike a friendship with you and did Lightspeed steal an idea from Cybererotica? Did Lykos steal an idea from Paul Markham?

Nope... but it dosent make it right :winkwink:

baddog 03-24-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19543897)
Nope... but it dosent make it right :winkwink:

As Sleazy used to say; "Idiot."

adulttraffic 03-24-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543899)
As Sleazy used to say; "Idiot."

You really hurt my feelings now... :(

adulttraffic 03-25-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19543899)
As Sleazy used to say; "Idiot."

What happened to my ban? I'm still waiting

adulttraffic 03-25-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19542707)
I'm telling you, i believe you. You got super pissed off at and upset at the idea of people taking action to stop it, because you have nothing to do with it whatsoever and you really just want to "educate" uninformed webmasters.

I get it.

You're a really mean educator who's driven by a selfless interest is to impart knowledge.

I wish you the best of luck.

You tell me you believe me, then you say you want to call the fbi and cia. So.. Please tell all whats the outcome of your said phone calls?

adulttraffic 03-25-2013 04:55 PM

And Baddog, you have no business posting in my threads. I proved your no fucking friend of anyone here. Stop pretending anyone likes you and go away you old fart.

adulttraffic 03-25-2013 05:06 PM

And baddog.. you want to know why I fucking troll you like this? Its like this... JFK who was fucking nothing in this industry (to the best of my knowledge) comes up with a fucking brilliant idea. Lets travel to all the adult conventions, build a website around it and try and market all the affiliate programs for links in the images he takes. You.. the looser you are befriend him and start taking pictures for him. Then you decide you can go on your own and steal every fucking idea this guy has come up with. All this while supposedly being his fucking friend. Dude.. I have been in this fucking business since 1998. Your not fooling me one bit. You are nothing but a fucking back stabbing troll yourself. And for the record.. JFK as NEVER asked me to say anything. Nor have I even spoke to JFK in any way or form.
Sooo.. As I said many times before. If baddog is your friend watch out for the knife in your back.

TheSquealer 03-25-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adulttraffic (Post 19545794)
You tell me you believe me, then you say you want to call the fbi and cia. So.. Please tell all whats the outcome of your said phone calls?

I was being sarcastic. I thought it was obvious, but I can see why you wouldn't pick up on that.

Why would i call anyone?

I created some filters and forwarded emails to ad networks, crak etc to people i knew personally so they'd be aware of the situation. They can investigate and make some determinations and do what they want with that information, if anything at all.

Other than that, i could care less.

It was just fascinating to me that you were so upset and adamant that no one do anything, no one report anything, that nothing was illegal and so on... because I understand that people only really do what they are motivated to do. So if you were motivated to do those things and make those arguments in conjunction with being extremely upset and making vicious attacks (for no reason according to you), then it suggests something is up with you.

As was once said. The innocent deny. Liars explain. You've done a great deal of explaining.

EddyTheDog 03-25-2013 05:12 PM

Ignore AdultTraffic - He is doing the same now in another thread - He is a troll, a good troll, but still just a troll...

Do not feed the troll!!!


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