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Elli 04-17-2013 05:13 PM

I couldn't help but notice the front page of CNN during the news releases of the bombs in Boston. One headline read "42 dead in Iraq blasts." And that happens every day over there, with not much sympathy from this side of the water. I shudder to think if that level of homegrown violence could ever come to Canada.

TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 19583318)
I couldn't help but notice the front page of CNN during the news releases of the bombs in Boston. One headline read "42 dead in Iraq blasts." And that happens every day over there, with not much sympathy from this side of the water. I shudder to think if that level of homegrown violence could ever come to Canada.

Yup......

TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19583317)
it's no different than what the legal system did/planned to do to aron swartz, co-founder of reddit, they threw the book at that kid- 35 years in jail and $1m in fines they were seeking, for his d/l docs from mit that were in the public domain to begin with. that's not justice, that's punitive and vindictive and just plain wrong. end result, the kid freaked out and committed suicide.

They basically killed him, yep :(

_Richard_ 04-17-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19583317)
it's no different than what the legal system did/planned to do to aron swartz, co-founder of reddit, they threw the book at that kid- 35 years in jail and $1m in fines they were seeking, for his d/l docs from mit that were in the public domain to begin with. that's not justice, that's punitive and vindictive and just plain wrong. end result, the kid freaked out and committed suicide.

and woke up 100s of 1000s of people; then and as the story comes out more and more

theking 04-17-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19583253)
Violence does not and never will solve problems

Pigshit.

dyna mo 04-17-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19583451)
Pigshit.

see, this is exactly right. ww2 is textbook proof. bosnia another.

bhutocracy 04-17-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19583200)
Whatever points that guy is trying to make they are totally ruined by his annoying delivery.

Jesus, I thought it was just me.. I lasted about 20 seconds. Given I know the general thrust of what he was going to say there was no point subjecting myself to it. Basically it's dog bites man, brown people getting killed far away is expected (even if it's non due processed drone double taps.)

TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 19583460)
Jesus, I thought it was just me.. I lasted about 20 seconds. Given I know the general thrust of what he was going to say there was no point subjecting myself to it.

Again, attacking the messenger and how it's delivered is pretty pathetic :2 cents:

I thought it was brilliantly delivered and spot on

dyna mo 04-17-2013 07:54 PM

standards.

theking 04-17-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19583462)
Again, attacking the messenger and how it's delivered is pretty pathetic :2 cents:

I thought it was brilliantly delivered and spot on

Of course you would think that...because you are stupid and your mind is a sick and unstable.

sarettah 04-17-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19583462)
I thought it was brilliantly delivered and spot on

Yeah, but you think a lot of weird thoughts :2 cents:

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TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 07:56 PM

What did he say that was false?

dyna mo 04-17-2013 07:57 PM

i already explained how he was confused.

TheFootMan5 04-17-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19583478)
i already explained how he was confused.

What did he say that isn't the truth?

dyna mo 04-17-2013 08:00 PM

yeah, no, i don't get into things with you.

clickhappy 04-17-2013 10:14 PM

This guy is a twat. His body language and voice inflections are so fucking annoying and he uses Saran wrap as his background lol. He talks bad about America and American's yet he lives here and loves it, he puts ads on his YouTube so he can make money from the same big corporations he says are brainwashing us and uses his American-big-corporation-made Apple computer to put it all out there.
He says we live in bubbles, and HE lives in a bubble of thinking he's smarter and superior to everyone else because we care about a terrorist attack that happened on our front door.

Of course its a tragedy. Some guy(s) put bombs filled with shrapnel, nails etc to go off into crowds at the moment when they are at their peak. A few people died and a few dozen more people now have no legs. Of course its a big deal because if we dont find them they'll do it again.

AND at the same time some politicians received mail with Ricin in them. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/missi...2#.UW-BwKK-o2c

What does this guy want us to do...nothing? A terrorist attack on our front door and we chastise people for talking about it like him?
We should lay down and so nothing because someone in Korea is in a prison camp or someone in Iraq got killed? I dont live there, I live HERE.

He's living in an ivory tower with a "superiority complex", I'll bet $1,000 he would never give this speech in front of any of the victims.

just a punk 04-17-2013 11:58 PM

The guy is speaking overemotionally to my opinion (I don't know, maybe it's normal to the modern US media) but in general he's totally right. A 1.4 million of Iraqi people have died because of the US invasion (do you remember those "scary" 3D "photos" of Saddam's WMDs presented by Colin Powell?) for no reason. The US soldiers were killing Iraqis just for fun. So why don't you cry about them? They also were people from blood and flesh just like you. They have loved, dreamed and living their lives. But nobody cares about them. Oh, I forgot... they just were not Americans.

Supz 04-18-2013 12:06 AM


TheFootMan5 04-18-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19583644)
This guy is a twat. His body language and voice inflections are so fucking annoying and he uses Saran wrap as his background lol. He talks bad about America and American's yet he lives here and loves it, he puts ads on his YouTube so he can make money from the same big corporations he says are brainwashing us and uses his American-big-corporation-made Apple computer to put it all out there.
He says we live in bubbles, and HE lives in a bubble of thinking he's smarter and superior to everyone else because we care about a terrorist attack that happened on our front door.

Of course its a tragedy. Some guy(s) put bombs filled with shrapnel, nails etc to go off into crowds at the moment when they are at their peak. A few people died and a few dozen more people now have no legs. Of course its a big deal because if we dont find them they'll do it again.

AND at the same time some politicians received mail with Ricin in them. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/missi...2#.UW-BwKK-o2c

What does this guy want us to do...nothing? A terrorist attack on our front door and we chastise people for talking about it like him?
We should lay down and so nothing because someone in Korea is in a prison camp or someone in Iraq got killed? I dont live there, I live HERE.

He's living in an ivory tower with a "superiority complex", I'll bet $1,000 he would never give this speech in front of any of the victims.

Again, you're missing the points severely here

TheFootMan5 04-18-2013 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19583726)
The guy is speaking overemotionally to my opinion (I don't know, maybe it's normal to the modern US media) but in general he's totally right. A 1.4 million of Iraqi people have died because of the US invasion (do you remember those "scary" 3D "photos" of Saddam's WMDs presented by Colin Powell?) for no reason. The US soldiers were killing Iraqis just for fun. So why don't you cry about them? They also were people from blood and flesh just like you. They have loved, dreamed and living their lives. But nobody cares about them. Oh, I forgot... they just were not Americans.

Yup :2 cents:

Then the media and government tells you to be "sad" and "remorseful" and then all the lemmings get on twitter and facebook saying how their hearts go out to Boston. Pathetic.

dyna mo 04-18-2013 12:47 AM

i think it's super that americans are held to such high standards.

i mean, we all obviously understand human limits and how it's impossible for any 1 human to care for 9 billion people the same way she cares for her children, family and neighbors.

but not for americans, based on replies in this thread, people don't just look to us for leadership and how to do things, they EXPECT us to and when we don't perform at super human levels, we are to blame.


americans all need to act like individual super powers at all times.

Jel 04-18-2013 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19583767)
i think it's super that americans are held to such high standards.

i mean, we all obviously understand human limits and how it's impossible for any 1 human to care for 9 billion people the same way she cares for her children, family and neighbors.

but not for americans, based on replies in this thread, people don't just look to us for leadership and how to do things, they EXPECT us to and when we don't perform at super human levels, we are to blame.


americans all need to act like individual super powers at all times.

lol. It does make me laugh how people don't get that you can think both things (overseas deaths) and US deaths are sad. If you stub your toe and it hurts, you don'r think "oh but wait my neighbour is in a wheelchair with cerebral palsy, so I'll ignore the pain I have right now". One action/event/occurence does not cancel out another - the other thing still happened, and if it's painful physically or emotionally, it's still fucking painful.

What these cunts like johnnyclips fail to understand is, well, pretty much everything rational really (wait for the new 'ad hominem' catchphrase while he calls me a sheep and a lemming), but especially the fact that 2 things can be bad at the same time. It isn't a race or a contest or about what's 'worse', or 'bigger'.

I can just imagine these cunts going up to a rape victim and going "hey! you! STFU already, someone was murdered last night and actually died - your problem isn't a problem at all! you fucking lemming!" because that's about how fucking retarded this whole attempt at making a point is.

Jel 04-18-2013 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFootMan5 (Post 19583735)
Yup :2 cents:

Then the media and government tells you to be "sad" and "remorseful" and then all the lemmings get on twitter and facebook saying how their hearts go out to Boston. Pathetic.

You think people need to be TOLD to feel sadness to actually feel it? It's not something you can tell people to feel, you thick cunt :1orglaugh

Is this why you keep telling people they should feel sad about the other atrocities, both real and imagined to be caused by Govt's - because you think if you TELL us to be sad, we will be? Irrespective of what you or I believe when it comes to truthers, or points about what is or isn't bad, the fact alone that you believe people are sad because they are told to be, rather than an actual physiological reaction, says all you should be paying attention to about your sanity and reasoning. Take a step back, zoom out, and look at the nonsense you are spouting. Then with your uber intelligence, work out what a fuckwit you are, and adjust accordingly.

BlackCrayon 04-18-2013 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583867)
the fact alone that you believe people are sad because they are told to be, rather than an actual physiological reaction, says all you should be paying attention to about your sanity and reasoning. Take a step back, zoom out, and look at the nonsense you are spouting. Then with your uber intelligence, work out what a fuckwit you are, and adjust accordingly.

i don't think johnny is capable of feeling normal human emotions. he probably thinks emotions are programmed into people. i am starting to think he is the one who is 'brainwashed'. he always has the same mantra he posts over and over again like its drilled into his head 'this is obvious mind control, brainwashing'. who is he trying to convince? us or himself?



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Originally Posted by Jel
I can just imagine these cunts going up to a rape victim and going "hey! you! STFU already, someone was murdered last night and actually died - your problem isn't a problem at all! you fucking lemming!" because that's about how fucking retarded this whole attempt at making a point is.

exactly!

pimpmaster9000 04-18-2013 03:52 AM

ah the famous american double standard...

when something happens to america, many many many movies are made about it and many many tears are "force shed"...

lets face it: pearl harbor and 9/11 are pussy ass events compared to the 1000-s upon 1000-s of bombs the USA unloads on other countries...

we will be hearing the 9/11 whine for the next 20-30 years minimum: "oh our egos got wounded"

iraqbodycount.org has the civilian victims at 120.000 and thats just one US corporate government "liberation"

not to mention that the people of iraq have their futures literally kidnapped by your mickey mouse politics...

makes you look like pussies when you complain about 3 dead...

Dirty F 04-18-2013 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19583644)
This guy is a twat. His body language and voice inflections are so fucking annoying and he uses Saran wrap as his background lol. He talks bad about America and American's yet he lives here and loves it, he puts ads on his YouTube so he can make money from the same big corporations he says are brainwashing us and uses his American-big-corporation-made Apple computer to put it all out there.
He says we live in bubbles, and HE lives in a bubble of thinking he's smarter and superior to everyone else because we care about a terrorist attack that happened on our front door.

Of course its a tragedy. Some guy(s) put bombs filled with shrapnel, nails etc to go off into crowds at the moment when they are at their peak. A few people died and a few dozen more people now have no legs. Of course its a big deal because if we dont find them they'll do it again.

AND at the same time some politicians received mail with Ricin in them. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/missi...2#.UW-BwKK-o2c

What does this guy want us to do...nothing? A terrorist attack on our front door and we chastise people for talking about it like him?
We should lay down and so nothing because someone in Korea is in a prison camp or someone in Iraq got killed? I dont live there, I live HERE.

He's living in an ivory tower with a "superiority complex", I'll bet $1,000 he would never give this speech in front of any of the victims.


http://philstivus.com/wp-content/upl...aran_wrap1.jpg

Jel 04-18-2013 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19583894)
ah the famous american double standard...

when something happens to america, many many many movies are made about it and many many tears are "force shed"...

lets face it: pearl harbor and 9/11 are pussy ass events compared to the 1000-s upon 1000-s of bombs the USA unloads on other countries...

we will be hearing the 9/11 whine for the next 20-30 years minimum: "oh our egos got wounded"

iraqbodycount.org has the civilian victims at 120.000 and thats just one US corporate government "liberation"

not to mention that the people of iraq have their futures literally kidnapped by your mickey mouse politics...

makes you look like pussies when you complain about 3 dead...

They aren't trying to compare - like I said previously, 1 'worse' event does not make an existing event nothing. By that logic, only 1 event in the entire history of humankind is 'bad', and all the 'lesser' events/occurences can be dismissed as nothing. It's a cunt's argument.

Jel 04-18-2013 04:01 AM

how many of you twats arguing that because a worse thing has happened this means fuck all have ever felt frustrated or sad at ANY thing, ever, in your life? I'd have a wild guess and say ALL of you, but by your logic, because there was someone else in a worse situation at some point ever, your frustration/anger/disappointment/sadness counts for NOTHING?

Have you any idea how retarded that logic is?

pimpmaster9000 04-18-2013 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583898)
They aren't trying to compare - like I said previously, 1 'worse' event does not make an existing event nothing. By that logic, only 1 event in the entire history of humankind is 'bad', and all the 'lesser' events/occurences can be dismissed as nothing. It's a cunt's argument.

its not about the comparison so much as it is about the whine...other countries do not whine so much..."ground zero" i mean come on LOL...its not like the world stopped turning and aliens came and visited from outer space for you to call it "ground zero"...you did much much worse upon others and you did not call the place you bombmed "ground x" or whatever...you over-do the whine as a nation...makes you look like pussies...


9/11 was terrible for the people who died and their families...I am not trying to belittle their grief...they suffered terribly just like the victims of the US army any place else but the difference is the got better marketing...

there is a huge double standard in the USA where 3000 american lives is worth years of whine and "ground zero" but 100.000 non american lives do not even get a "ground x" or whatever...

its a cunts argument to not point out the double standard....

Jel 04-18-2013 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19583920)
its not about the comparison so much as it is about the whine...other countries do not whine so much..."ground zero" i mean come on LOL...its not like the world stopped turning and aliens came and visited from outer space for you to call it "ground zero"...you did much much worse upon others and you did not call the place you bombmed "ground x" or whatever...you over-do the whine as a nation...makes you look like pussies...


9/11 was terrible for the people who died and their families...I am not trying to belittle their grief...they suffered terribly just like the victims of the US army any place else but the difference is the got better marketing...

there is a huge double standard in the USA where 3000 american lives is worth years of whine and "ground zero" but 100.000 non american lives do not even get a "ground x" or whatever...

its a cunts argument to not point out the double standard....

#1 I'm from the UK so there's no 'you' about it

#2 those people grieving, or sad, or whatever else they are aren't the ones who decided to bomb other countries - it's like saying if my dad was a serial killer I shouldn't feel sad for victims of serial killers

#3 So basically you're whining like a pissant because the 'marketing' in their own country is 'better'? Are you upset when your sports team loses? Do you give a fuck if another sports team loses? Do you cry if the other losing sports teams' coverage in their local area is 'better marketed'?

Your whole rant is because in America, Americans are saddened that Americans died, and that American media 'marketed' the events in America 'better' than they 'market' events elsewhere? And then tell people on GFY that you're lumping them all in one basket because of that? Holy shit. You're obviously a very intelligent person, but wtf... that makes no sense.

'Better marketing' being the issue - holy fucking shit :1orglaugh Newsflash - if someone else's kid gets murdered I'd be sad. If my own kid got murdered I'd be making a big issue of it for the rest of my life. That's human nature, and to declare someone, or a group of people, as somehow bad because of it, is fucking stupid.

pimpmaster9000 04-18-2013 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583935)
#2 those people grieving, or sad, or whatever else they are aren't the ones who decided to bomb other countries - it's like saying if my dad was a serial killer I shouldn't feel sad for victims of serial killers

where did I say their grief was not real?

no blame on them at all...I would do the same...

its the rest of the country and their double standard that is the problem

americans whine about 9/11 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much and you know it...

we were just beginning to hear the end of pearl harbor :1orglaugh


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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583935)
#3 So basically you're whining like a pissant because the 'marketing' in their own country is 'better'? Are you upset when your sports team loses? Do you give a fuck if another sports team loses? Do you cry if the other losing sports teams' coverage in their local area is 'better marketed'?

no I am just pointing out the double standard...its ridiculous and makes americans look like whiny pussies...If I was american Id tell other americans to shut the fuck up about pussy ass 9/11...

I would not tell this to any family members of the victims...this is completely different...


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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583935)
Your whole rant is because in America, Americans are saddened that Americans died, and that American media 'marketed' the events in America 'better' than they 'market' events elsewhere? And then tell people on GFY that you're lumping them all in one basket because of that? Holy shit. You're obviously a very intelligent person, but wtf... that makes no sense.

yes I have a problem with "history according to america"...its bullshit...everything that happens to the USA is overinflated to fuck and everything the US does to others is downplayed...

makes no sense to keep quiet about it...

dyna mo 04-18-2013 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583898)
They aren't trying to compare - like I said previously, 1 'worse' event does not make an existing event nothing. By that logic, only 1 event in the entire history of humankind is 'bad', and all the 'lesser' events/occurences can be dismissed as nothing. It's a cunt's argument.

excellent way to lay it out coherently and logically. nice. :thumbsup

Jel 04-18-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19583957)
where did I say their grief was not real?

no blame on them at all...I would do the same...

its the rest of the country and their double standard that is the problem

americans whine about 9/11 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much and you know it...

we were just beginning to hear the end of pearl harbor :1orglaugh




no I am just pointing out the double standard...its ridiculous and makes americans look like whiny pussies...If I was american Id tell other americans to shut the fuck up about pussy ass 9/11...

I would not tell this to any family members of the victims...this is completely different...




yes I have a problem with "history according to america"...its bullshit...everything that happens to the USA is overinflated to fuck and everything the US does to others is downplayed...

makes no sense to keep quiet about it...

So it's ok for you to be upset about what affects you, or things YOU feel sad about, like the thousands of bombs, and for you to show that sadness, but not for them? How is that not the double standard you are against so much?

How about you feel sad and upset about what makes you feel sad and upset, and let others feel sad and upset about what makes them feel sad and upset? No-one, least of all Americans, is saying you can't be sad and upset, which *is* a double standard, so why are you so adamant that people MUST feel as strongly about issues/events which are important to you? Isn't that the same kind of 'forcing' you're telling us all you're so against?

Why do you think you have any right to tell people to 'shut up' about an event, pussy ass or otherwise, that matters to *them*?

There's a saying I like to keep in mind: never belittle anyone's experience, because they experienced it. Just like it applies to you, it applies to everyone else as well. It isn't a contest of who had the worst or most hurtful experience, and that's what it seems like you're trying to do here.

bronco67 04-18-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19583935)
#1 I'm from the UK so there's no 'you' about it

#2 those people grieving, or sad, or whatever else they are aren't the ones who decided to bomb other countries - it's like saying if my dad was a serial killer I shouldn't feel sad for victims of serial killers

#3 So basically you're whining like a pissant because the 'marketing' in their own country is 'better'? Are you upset when your sports team loses? Do you give a fuck if another sports team loses? Do you cry if the other losing sports teams' coverage in their local area is 'better marketed'?

Your whole rant is because in America, Americans are saddened that Americans died, and that American media 'marketed' the events in America 'better' than they 'market' events elsewhere? And then tell people on GFY that you're lumping them all in one basket because of that? Holy shit. You're obviously a very intelligent person, but wtf... that makes no sense.

'Better marketing' being the issue - holy fucking shit :1orglaugh Newsflash - if someone else's kid gets murdered I'd be sad. If my own kid got murdered I'd be making a big issue of it for the rest of my life. That's human nature, and to declare someone, or a group of people, as somehow bad because of it, is fucking stupid.

Someone who gets it.

DWB 04-18-2013 07:45 AM

Oh goodie, lizard boy learned a new word.


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