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harvey 04-29-2013 08:18 PM

fiddy ghosts and invisible friends! :thumbsup

_Richard_ 04-29-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19603994)
yes, I don't like absolutists but I think you have to lean towards proof and evidence as you go through life.

not to be the.. devils advocate :winkwink:

but the older i get, the more i realize how tenuous proof and evidence can be, considering how perception works

all i know is religion and 'God', whatever it is, has got us this far

BFT3K 04-29-2013 09:10 PM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...84487250_n.jpg

mikesinner 04-29-2013 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19604157)
not to be the.. devils advocate :winkwink:

but the older i get, the more i realize how tenuous proof and evidence can be, considering how perception works

all i know is religion and 'God', whatever it is, has got us this far

How do you know it hasn't held us back. I see way more evidence that it has destroyed knowledge throughout the years.

Christian and Catholics have destroyed thousands of books and writing over the years because it conflicted with their teachings and in many cases may have shown their fraud.

Muslims have done the same. So many libraries have been burned it's insane. More than half of all the great Greek literature of antiquity was burned and lost to us. We have references to books and writings but we don't have those books because insane religious people burned them because they didn't agree with their bible or Qur'an. We call this period in history the dark ages. If atheism would have been allowed to flourish as it was beginning to do during the height of ancient Greece we would probably be several hundred more years advanced than we are now. At one point in Greece was over %10 atheist and there were some great atheist and deist philosophers.

CurrentlySober 04-29-2013 10:42 PM

http://i.imgur.com/608G1xA.png

pretty much sums up my view on it. But if YOU want to believe in something, and having that belief makes your life better... Knock yourself out !

Just dont come and burn down my house cause I dont feel the exact same way :)

helterskelter808 04-29-2013 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19604255)
How do you know it hasn't held us back.

Yes, just look at how the USSR excelled due to its godlessness. Go atheism.

Some Guy 04-30-2013 12:16 AM

Wow, a lot more atheists here than I thought there would be. Kind of comforting. They say atheists only comprise roughly 5% of the population but I've never believed that statistic. I'm sure it's more like 20% but most people prefer not to admit that they don't believe.

edgeprod 04-30-2013 12:32 AM

I'm a little old for invisible friends.

CurrentlySober 04-30-2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19604344)
I'm a little old for invisible friends.

I'm not - Mine is called David :2 cents:

helterskelter808 04-30-2013 02:37 AM

My invisible friends don't believe in me any more.

CurrentlySober 04-30-2013 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19604344)
I'm a little old for invisible friends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 19604346)
I'm not - Mine is called David :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19604459)
My invisible friends don't believe in me any more.

From Sept Last Year...

seeandsee 04-30-2013 05:33 AM

creator vs self creation

_Richard_ 04-30-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19604255)
How do you know it hasn't held us back. I see way more evidence that it has destroyed knowledge throughout the years.

Christian and Catholics have destroyed thousands of books and writing over the years because it conflicted with their teachings and in many cases may have shown their fraud.

Muslims have done the same. So many libraries have been burned it's insane. More than half of all the great Greek literature of antiquity was burned and lost to us. We have references to books and writings but we don't have those books because insane religious people burned them because they didn't agree with their bible or Qur'an. We call this period in history the dark ages. If atheism would have been allowed to flourish as it was beginning to do during the height of ancient Greece we would probably be several hundred more years advanced than we are now. At one point in Greece was over %10 atheist and there were some great atheist and deist philosophers.

so there is examples of people from every religion destroying things? how coincidental.

i notice that atheists now number almost 20% of the US population

war doesn't seem to be slowing down however, nor the destruction of historical monuments or writing

next time maybe

Best-In-BC 04-30-2013 07:49 AM

Ill find out with I die, thats good enough for me but the idea of a supreme being is just that, a idea and no evidence, well at least using a scientific method. Who knows what this life is, all I know is, we are not all born equal, most have no honor or heart for others.

Stealthera 04-30-2013 07:50 AM

definitly

nikki99 04-30-2013 08:12 AM

stupid poll for stupid atheist people

alex.missyouth 04-30-2013 08:18 AM

I believe there are 'higher' entities out there. Would I call 'em Gods¿? Probably.

What I'm certain is that the God christians, jews, muslims, protestants, catholics, etc praise is a fuckin' joke and a huge lie. Probably the biggest lie in human history. :2 cents:

brassmonkey 04-30-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19604009)

lobster spaghetti and meatballs god?

EonBlue 04-30-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19604047)
There is very very little evidence for a historical Jesus and no evidence for a miraculous one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

edgeprod 04-30-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19604898)
lobster spaghetti and meatballs god?

Flying Spaghetti Monster. :) His followers are called "Pastafarians".

brassmonkey 04-30-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19605045)
Flying Spaghetti Monster. :) His followers are called "Pastafarians".

i saw god on south park. he looked bad

_Richard_ 04-30-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19604898)
lobster spaghetti and meatballs god?

buddy created a religion so he could wear a strainer on his head for his passport photo.. or something..

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/nikoalm.jpg
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/nikoalm.jpg hot linkin

Major (Tom) 04-30-2013 12:24 PM

I'd have to lean towards no. I do accept the possibility that someone or something could have set things in motion, but definitely not some super Jew floating around on clouds. I am certain of that.
Duke

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-30-2013 04:31 PM

http://i.imgur.com/aQe5lBV.jpg

:stoned

ADG

DAMNMAN 04-30-2013 05:42 PM

GOD gives the best head..... ever!!!!!

Oh shit...... My mistake, for the sake of being funny it actually sounded like I believe this HORSE SHIT!!!!

NO GOD

DAMNMAN 04-30-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19604988)

Wiki for proof of the existence of a historical jesus. EPIC FAIL. :1orglaugh

NO JESUS

StickyGreen 04-30-2013 05:52 PM

lol @ everyone who voted Yes or No...

How the fuck would you know either way?

2013 04-30-2013 05:57 PM

i need to pee brb

SilentKnight 04-30-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 19605898)
lol @ everyone who voted Yes or No...

How the fuck would you know either way?

Call it an educated guess. :pimp

CDSmith 04-30-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19603954)
btw, even though it's not for me in it's various interpretations of what 'god' is, there's fuck all wrong with religion, it's how people interpret it. blaming religion for all the shit idiots do is like blaming football for hooliganism. It's done 'in the name' of your religion/club, but has zero to do with what religion/your club actually is.

I'll go out on a limb here and confess that 'god' = energy, for me. Should be good for at least a reply or two :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19603958)
oh and to add, there's nothing so bad as a religious nut, as an anti-religious nut :winkwink:

Best posts in the thread thus far.

People, believe, don't believe, put all your faith in Science, put it all in God, whatever floats your ark. But those of us who can truly say they are openminded as well as non judgemental have a leg up in life on those who aren't. This I know for certain.

2MuchMark 04-30-2013 07:47 PM

Sorry but there is no God. It's all evolution & science, people, nothing else. Wake up or miss out on life.

Evil1 04-30-2013 08:20 PM

Funny how "god" / "jesus" was parting seas, walking on water, curing the plague, raising the dead, talking thru bushes that are on fire, flooding the earth, ect, ect, ect in the good old days. But since the invention of the camera they are only found on toast or a reflection on a pane of glass.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2013 08:45 PM

I'm with Hawking, "No room for a creator". This is all.

dillfly2000 04-30-2013 08:46 PM

Involving yourself in a "God" thread is like chopping your dick off and hoping it will grow back bigger.

Mutt 04-30-2013 08:52 PM

The funniest part of this whole 'God' thing is that it all begins with group of goat herding nomads, called Israelites at the time, who were literally nobodies in a world where the great early civilizations were taking great leaps forward in science and technology, taking it upon themselves to fabricate a fantastic story about the entire history of the universe conveniently writing themselves in as the main characters - imagine that, the entire universe created and centered around a tiny unremarkable tract of land that these nomads wandered back and forth across it from season to season

even more incredible is that after 2,500 years, the entire Western and Middle Eastern world still continues to be obsessed with and believe in this God these ancient Jewish storytellers dreamed up. the Bible locked itself in to a creation date of 6,000 years ago, while science has proven that the universe is 12 BILLION years old - Jews are smart, they won't take the bait and get into any debates, the real dumb Christians though do all the time and make complete fools of themselves in hopeless attempts to convince themselves that anything science discovers or proves about the cosmos doesn't make the Bible any less the truth, 'it all fits together brother, intelligent design' - of course it's total bullshit but for many it allows them to hang on to something they need in their lives.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-30-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19606079)
The funniest part of this whole 'God' thing is that it all begins with group of goat herding nomads, called Israelites at the time, who were literally nobodies in a world where the great early civilizations were taking great leaps forward in science and technology, taking it upon themselves to fabricate a fantastic story about the entire history of the universe conveniently writing themselves in as the main characters - imagine that, the entire universe created and centered around a tiny unremarkable tract of land that these nomads wandered back and forth across it from season to season

even more incredible is that after 2,500 years, the entire Western and Middle Eastern world still continues to be obsessed with and believe in this God these ancient Jewish storytellers dreamed up. the Bible locked itself in to a creation date of 6,000 years ago, while science has proven that the universe is 12 BILLION years old - Jews are smart, they won't take the bait and get into any debates, the real dumb Christians though do all the time and make complete fools of themselves in hopeless attempts to convince themselves that anything science discovers or proves about the cosmos doesn't make the Bible any less the truth, 'it all fits together brother, intelligent design' - of course it's total bullshit but for many it allows them to hang on to something they need in their lives.

Self serving cultist cunts.

Grapesoda 04-30-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19604086)
You also believe in unicorns i take it?

I believe in dualcorns :thumbsup

Grapesoda 04-30-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19606079)
The funniest part of this whole 'God' thing is that it all begins with group of goat herding nomads, called Israelites at the time, who were literally nobodies in a world where the great early civilizations were taking great leaps forward in science and technology, taking it upon themselves to fabricate a fantastic story about the entire history of the universe conveniently writing themselves in as the main characters - imagine that, the entire universe created and centered around a tiny unremarkable tract of land that these nomads wandered back and forth across it from season to season

even more incredible is that after 2,500 years, the entire Western and Middle Eastern world still continues to be obsessed with and believe in this God these ancient Jewish storytellers dreamed up. the Bible locked itself in to a creation date of 6,000 years ago, while science has proven that the universe is 12 BILLION years old - Jews are smart, they won't take the bait and get into any debates, the real dumb Christians though do all the time and make complete fools of themselves in hopeless attempts to convince themselves that anything science discovers or proves about the cosmos doesn't make the Bible any less the truth, 'it all fits together brother, intelligent design' - of course it's total bullshit but for many it allows them to hang on to something they need in their lives.

what the jews did that was different was stating that god had a personal relation/interest in each person. that had never happened before. religions before the jews focused on royalty and the common man was just a redshirt that would be reincarnated and forced to do it all again a needed.

Grapesoda 04-30-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19606037)
Sorry but there is no God. It's all evolution & science, people, nothing else. Wake up or miss out on life.

yes of course, all action is the result of motive and opportunity and all conversation is rationalization :2 cents:

Grapesoda 04-30-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil1 (Post 19606052)
Funny how "god" / "jesus" was parting seas, walking on water, curing the plague, raising the dead, talking thru bushes that are on fire, flooding the earth, ect, ect, ect in the good old days. But since the invention of the camera they are only found on toast or a reflection on a pane of glass.

AND a dogs butt :thumbsup

http://images.dangerousminds.net/upl...edog1sdfsd.jpg

Grapesoda 04-30-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19604047)
There is very very little evidence for a historical Jesus and no evidence for a miraculous one.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a0b3957a...i2sto1_500.jpg

marlboroack 04-30-2013 11:40 PM

If god was not real. How would i have all of this? http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/...ps38aa1762.jpg

brassmonkey 05-01-2013 12:40 AM

god said revenge is all his.

John-ACWM 05-01-2013 03:05 AM

I believe in good people.

CaptainHowdy 05-01-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19603855)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 19604256)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J-3-zIBGWz...lustracion.jpg

brassmonkey 05-01-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John-ACWM (Post 19606464)
I believe in good people.

what about bad?

lock 05-01-2013 07:03 AM

You can convince a kid to believe in anything.

Trend 05-01-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19603829)
Incredible ignorance is portrayed by as person who assumes something is real when there is absolutely no evidence that it is.

To Believe Evolution, Mathematically, You Have A Greater Faith Than I :2 cents:

_Richard_ 05-01-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19606738)

freud lol

wonder if he wrote all that before or after he started railing lines

Ringo 05-01-2013 09:32 AM

I believe in Google


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