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Robbie 05-04-2013 06:56 PM

Does it really matter if a gun is automatic or not?

The 2nd amendment says that we are a free people and can own any gun we want. The govt. is nervous about that (as it should be with all the shit it pulls) and wants to make sure that we can't have them.

So Congress should repeal the 2nd amendment. Everything else is going to be justifiably ruled unconstitutional or such a small gesture that it won't really do anything except make anti-gun people feel good about themselves.

theking 05-04-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19612044)
Does it really matter if a gun is automatic or not?

The 2nd amendment says that we are a free people and can own any gun we want. The govt. is nervous about that (as it should be with all the shit it pulls) and wants to make sure that we can't have them.

So Congress should repeal the 2nd amendment. Everything else is going to be justifiably ruled unconstitutional or such a small gesture that it won't really do anything except make anti-gun people feel good about themselves.

You have stated multiple times that Congress should repeal the 2nd amendment knowing that is not a possibility. Even the attempt to do so would make me and tens of millions of people an enemy of the state.

Robbie 05-04-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19612060)
You have stated multiple times that Congress should repeal the 2nd amendment knowing that is not a possibility. Even the attempt to do so would make me and tens of millions of people an enemy of the state.

It's absolutely a possibility...not only that it's their duty to do IF the people of this country decide that it is what needs to be done.

That's why Congress has not only repealed amendments in the past...but added them as well. That's why they are called "amendments" to the Constitution. They amend the document.

I'm not sure that you and tens of millions of people would become "enemies of the state" at all. They already search us like criminals at airports, wiretap our phones, read our email, search our person, search our vehicles, etc., etc.

All those things were unheard of just a couple of decades ago. And people screamed bloody murder over it. But nobody did a thing. And let's face it, nobody will. Not you or tens of millions of others.

Look, there is an exact method that is laid out in the structure of our govt.
In order to have gun control they will have to repeal the 2nd amendment and replace it with another one.
They've done it before with other issues, and I'm sure they will do it again.

Anything else is infringing on our rights and freedom.

theking 05-04-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19612081)
It's absolutely a possibility...not only that it's their duty to do IF the people of this country decide that it is what needs to be done.

That's why Congress has not only repealed amendments in the past...but added them as well. That's why they are called "amendments" to the Constitution. They amend the document.

I'm not sure that you and tens of millions of people would become "enemies of the state" at all. They already search us like criminals at airports, wiretap our phones, read our email, search our person, search our vehicles, etc., etc.

All those things were unheard of just a couple of decades ago. And people screamed bloody murder over it. But nobody did a thing. And let's face it, nobody will. Not you or tens of millions of others.

Look, there is an exact method that is laid out in the structure of our govt.
In order to have gun control they will have to repeal the 2nd amendment and replace it with another one.
They've done it before with other issues, and I'm sure they will do it again.

Anything else is infringing on our rights and freedom.

You do know what the requirements are don't you? Yes it has been done before but never to the original bill of rights. I think it would be a virtual impossibility to alter the original bill of rights.

I know it would make me an enemy of the state...end of story.

Robbie 05-04-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19612094)
You do know what the requirements are don't you? Yes it has been done before but never to the original bill of rights. I think it would be a virtual impossibility to alter the original bill of rights.

I know it would make me an enemy of the state...end of story.

I agree that they probably don't have the balls to go after the 2nd amendment. Doesn't mean that they can't. Because they can. They just don't have the guts to.

And that's the point I'm trying to make.

This whole "gun control" b.s. has NOTHING to do with guns. It's just politicians trying to make you think they "care".

In reality the only thing they care about is power and money.

They know it's unconstitutional to try and take guns from Americans in any way. But they will keep fighting on BOTH sides to try and convince their constituents that they "care" about them.

Reality is IF they cared and really thought that guns were a problem, they would do what they are authorized to do.

But they won't.

That's all I'm trying to say. This is all a big farce to capture stupid people's attention and votes.

In the end, only the politicians win.

theking 05-04-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19612103)
I agree that they probably don't have the balls to go after the 2nd amendment. Doesn't mean that they can't. Because they can. They just don't have the guts to.

And that's the point I'm trying to make.

This whole "gun control" b.s. has NOTHING to do with guns. It's just politicians trying to make you think they "care".

In reality the only thing they care about is power and money.

They know it's unconstitutional to try and take guns from Americans in any way. But they will keep fighting on BOTH sides to try and convince their constituents that they "care" about them.

Reality is IF they cared and really thought that guns were a problem, they would do what they are authorized to do.

But they won't.

That's all I'm trying to say. This is all a big farce to capture stupid people's attention and votes.

In the end, only the politicians win.

There are background checks in place now and the Supreme Court has ruled that back ground checks are within the constitution...there has been a previous 10 year ban on so called "assault weapons" and the Supreme Court has ruled that was within the constitution.

Now some want background checks to cover more sales than are currently covered and want another ban on so called "assault weapons". I don't have a real problem with either of these but the ban on "assault weapons" is nothing more than a feel good law as they are not anymore than a semi automatic rifle.

Assault weapons are used in less than one percent of all gun crimes and according to the FBI the previous ban had zero affect on gun crimes or the number of people killed.

You are right about politicians and as the song goes..."and the games people play now".

CyberHustler 05-04-2013 09:39 PM

All I know is I almost went to Dick's and bought a shotty today. I didn't get one, but I appreciate the fact that I could have. Maybe tomorrow.http://i.imgur.com/h3MQk.gif

lock 05-04-2013 10:07 PM

anyone wish to buy unchambered,com and push the right to carry unloaded perhaps? $250 single word domain name. Cheap. [email protected]

theking 05-05-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lock (Post 19612156)
anyone wish to buy unchambered,com and push the right to carry unloaded perhaps? $250 single word domain name. Cheap. [email protected]

Interesting domain name...but no thanks.

CDSmith 05-05-2013 12:51 PM

Repeal the 2nd ammendment?

You're more likely to find out the moon actually is made of cheese than that occuring.

Grapesoda 05-05-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19611715)
Here is one for you...

In Cincinnati, Ohio the police set up elaborate stings for out-call strippers (not escorts), throw fake bachelor parties, and any girl who touches anyone at the party, be it to take a dollar with her tits or even sit in his lap, is arrested (after the party is over of course) for prostitution (misdemeanor) and her driver is arrested for being her pimp, which is a felony. However, no real acts of prostitution have taken place and the driver is literally just security or some dude helping her get from A to B.

They usually hit them with multiple counts, for each lap she sits in, so they end up having to plea out due to so much shit they throw at them. Everyone who has fought it in court has lost. I've seen several really good girls and their drivers get ruined over some bullshit like this. One girl lost her child over it. All because some group of adults decided another adult was a hooker if she was naked at sat on a grown man's lap during a bachelor party.

Meanwhile at the parties, the police are trying to grope all over the girls and pull them onto them so the girl falls on them and they get to charge her. It is entrapment at its finest, but these days they don't call it that, they are just doing their job.

great.. how about I shoot a female cop doing an interracial anal gang bang then the cops can come after me for health violations :helpme

theking 05-05-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19612640)
Repeal the 2nd ammendment?

You're more likely to find out the moon actually is made of cheese than that occuring.

Hear...hear!

MaDalton 05-05-2013 03:38 PM

if everyone would just use guns that were available when the 2nd amendment was written...

http://vorderlader.sg1863-gross-bieb...steins_pis.jpg

Robbie 05-05-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 19612640)
Repeal the 2nd ammendment?

You're more likely to find out the moon actually is made of cheese than that occuring.

I agree...and the reason is that the politicians calling for "gun control" don't believe it themselves and don't have the balls to actually do the one thing that they have constitutional power to do.

It's all just posturing and posing.

sperbonzo 05-05-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Best-In-BC (Post 19611649)
I Hope Your Kidding :2 cents:

In the OP, he said " . If you can't afford the policy, then you can't afford the gun.", thus making out that somehow your ability to own a weapon to protect your home and family should be tied to your ability to afford some special added fee as a barrier, and that the government should make that barrier harder to cross, so as to deny more people that right simply based on their income.

This was the same concept that brought us the "poll tax" making it harder for poor people to afford to vote. Make things artificially more expensive so that only the lowest income brackets are denied their rights, as if being more able to afford to have a right means that you will be more responsible with it.


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BlackCrayon 05-06-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19612922)
In the OP, he said " . If you can't afford the policy, then you can't afford the gun.", thus making out that somehow your ability to own a weapon to protect your home and family should be tied to your ability to afford some special added fee as a barrier, and that the government should make that barrier harder to cross, so as to deny more people that right simply based on their income.

This was the same concept that brought us the "poll tax" making it harder for poor people to afford to vote. Make things artificially more expensive so that only the lowest income brackets are denied their rights, as if being more able to afford to have a right means that you will be more responsible with it.

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says the guy lives in a mansion in panama. really the same thing could be said about any kind of insurance. auto, rental, etc. its just a talking point to say its a barrier to keep the poor out. its more about accountability. if something happens when using the gun, insurance will cover financial damages. if you have a criminal record or whatever reason there might be to refuse a person insurance or charge them much more its a way to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people. same way auto insurance skyrockets if you've been convicted of dui or whatever.

madm1k3 05-06-2013 09:45 AM

Getting insurance companies involved will help no one. They would collect premiums, package a bunch of policies together, sell them as a financial security product and when someone gets shot it would take the victim years to see pennies from the insurance companies (you think the mortgage crisis was bad)!

Vendzilla 05-06-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19612769)
if everyone would just use guns that were available when the 2nd amendment was written...

http://vorderlader.sg1863-gross-bieb...steins_pis.jpg

I have two of those, but remember that when the constitution was written, that's what the military was carrying too!


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