the united shit states of amerika has a system of wealth care. only criminal socialists who steal money from middle class and poor receive care. the rest slowly die for profit.

fuck the usa its a cesspool of socialist maggots and freeloading parasites

Brother, if we could get the govt to stop allowing Big Pharma and the Medical Industry to price gouge the fuck out of us... we wouldn't NEED "Universal Health Care".

We could all just afford to pay for it ourselves...just like we did for a couple of hundred years.

The price gouging here in the U.S. is outrageous and the govt. hasn't addressed that problem at all.

If Canadian pharmacies and doctors were allowed to charge what they do here in the U.S. you guys would be bankrupt in no time. :(

pharmacies and doctors have very little to do with it. My understanding is most of the 'waste' is done at an administrative level

did you know, that, statistically, Canada helps more people for less money than the US?

Good business, no?

Whats wrong bro....you don't like Indian or Chinese music?

A lot of it is administrative, administrative between hospitals and insurance companies. Total waste.

A lot of it is price gouging. Example; I sometimes get gout.

The Dr in Kentucky prescribed a medication that you take once a day, cost $240. for a months supply. My expired prescription from Florida was $4.00 for 90 days. The difference? One is time released one isn't. Is that an advancement in medicine or just profit seeking?


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free market is not always the answer

When it costs 2 to 3 times more for the exact same medication here in the U.S. than anywhere else in the country...that's plain out ripping us off.

I remember a few years back that they tried to claim that U.S. customers had to pay more to help keep "research" going for the rest of the world.

Well, I was born in the day...but not yesterday! lol That's a scam...pure and simple

That is MARGINAL tax rate, not average.. Marginal rate is "How much tax would you pay on an extra dollar, had you earned $1 more in a year".

To get to the highest rate, you need to be making a lot of money. It only affects a very small portion of the population.

For the average person making ~$40-50k a year, the taxes aren't that different from the US and Canada.

the health care is still free compared to the rip off that US health care is...it is a shame we lost our completely completely free health care it took 2 wars and 20 years of economic sanctions against a 3rd world country...just pointing out what a fucking rip off joke US health care is...

CIA 2013 stats:

infant mortality USA 5.9/1000
infant mortality cuba 4.76/1000
infant mortality serbia 6.28/1000 (and we are really a shit hole LOL)

what a fucking joke...the USA kept cuba like under 50 years of economic sanctions and they still have better health care than the USA...the USA kept serbia under 20+ years and 2 wars...

joke: US healthcare :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Uhmm your in euro right?
Well in the USA that would have been around $5,000 to $10,000 USD to do the same :2 cents:

50 euro? come on man

I don't have to pay anything monthly we have all the free healthcare we need.

fyi, it's not about quality, it's about access. the us has top quality doctors, equipment, and facilities that not everyone can access due to costs.

given a choice, i will choose going to see a doctor using equipment in a hospital in the u.s over the same in cuba.

that's a no-brainer.

No they arent...except in the US somebody with the same skill level as somebody in Canada would make considerably more money and you are not being nickled and dimed with a million other taxes either like gas, gst and a million other ones.:2 cents:

I have lived in both. and my income and standard of living was much hire in the US over Canada. Did the exact same thing for work :2 cents:

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yes of course cause the US is gonna have the best equipment however in Cuba they keep the rates down with preventative medicine...plus they make them fuckin walk everywhere nobody is fat ;)

here's more on the underlying reasons for the infant mortality rate

Reading that makes me realize that if we were giving teenage boys condoms and teenage girls birth control pills...then we would have a lot LESS teenage pregnancy.

Teens have always had sex (they have more hormones raging than all of us combined).

But our fucked up religious wacko's in our country just can't seem to figure out why their 15 year old daughter is knocked up.
She's knocked up for the same reason that 15 year old girls have been getting pregnant in droves since the beginning of time...she's fucking.
And she's fucking with no birth control.

We need to stop being hypocritical and remember when WE were teenagers and fucking horny all the damn time. Teenagers fuck. It's what they do.
And if we just had the good sense to give them access to birth control without all the hell raising about it...we'd have a lot less teen pregnancy and a lot lower infant mortality rates. (not to mention all the kids who grow up in a bad situation because their mom was so young when she got pregnant)

not one mention of birth control or chemicals

wonder why

When including the tax rate, make sure you do "average salary" in the country and ADD in % the amount paid monthly for paid healthcare. You might be surprised on how much in % a good health insurance costs in comparison to an average salary, thus the tax rate almost becomes mute...

:2 cents:

5,000 $$$ to put gypsum on broken arm ? oh come on.......

and people pay such money ? they are idiots ? or what ?

Post more maps!

i know right? it's stupid. that alone would prolly bring us in line with the norm,

+ the current crop of *reality* teen pregnancy shows. it's got them all clamoring to get knocked-up and become a star.

so does the rest of the world...look you guys just have better weapons than the rest of the world the rest is made in china...get a clue...seriously go abroad sometimes...

my shit ass 3rd world shitstain hospital has a 2million dollar hewlett packard blood gas thing have no idea what it does it costs 2 million...down the road theres a shit stain private clinic with brand new siemens 3D doppler shit dont know what the fuck it is it costs a fuck load and thers 2 types and its in a shit stain suburb in a shit stain city...

the MRI is around 20$ for a scan and that a private clinic...

growth hormone made in germany!!!!!!! costs 1$/IU

google how much it costs in the USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

look just admit it...you are being fucked...FUCKED!...the health care penis is deep in your ass...



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go get an Ipone to go with your Ihealthcare :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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oh no it cant be the SHIT healtcare ripoff its teen pregnancy that is, somehow, confined to just the USA and does not affect other 1st world countries...

but on the other hand your article does mention your SHIT rip off education system and I must admit there is something to it...

sure you got harvard and the fancy colleges they are not shit of course but your general education, and I went to a private american school abroad, is a joke...

you are getting ripped off by your government on every level possible...and you are still a rich and successful country...how about that LOL...

lolz, i have a pre-existing condition. i am aware of how fucked i am getting.

which goes directly to what you do not understand- our system is based on insurance. insurance means i couldn't give 2 shits how much gh is in germany, because i'm covered.

no insurance means bend over in one way or another, prolly both ways at the same time.

i used to work for Siemens Medical - let's say the prices per country for their stuff varies. A lot.

what?

settle down bra. take a breath of fresh air. you are railing on the usa health care system, which you've never participated in anway, nevertheless, try and stay on that.

$10,000 easy in my area! Emergency room, dr's, x-ray, etc ……..

oh you went to a private American school abroad - daddy is probably some corrupt drunk Serbian politician.

in the next thread, he will go on about how he was on the front lines in bosnia and witnessed all kinds of american atrocities.

I have no idea which shithole he calls home.it really doesn't matter because it won't be long before they're killing and raping each other again while he's worried about America and Cuba. :1orglaugh

you get health insurance for free? i think not LOL...so you do care how much GH is...we also have this insurance white man miracle in our country too :1orglaugh its just not such a rip off like in yours...


education is free in my 3rd world shit stain country...even when they send you abroad the state pays for your education...let me put this in to perspective for you, our shit stain 3rd world country pays for rip off western education abroad and its STILL FREE :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

until a few years back college education was completely free...now its a rip off but its still 100x cheaper than in the USA...

I honestly feel sorry for you guys...

I don't think these are best things to compare. Cuba is socialistic country (which means
that good of all people is most important value ) and they have some of best health care system in the world because big companies couldn't access them because their isolation.

Since you are from Serbia, you know how often people from here go to Cuba to be cured for most incredible things not available to rest of the world. Also, you know probably that soon lung cancer vaccine will be made in Serbia under supervision and licence from Cuban doctors (delayed for years, my guess is because of big companies since people from around the world will hear and start spreading). They have technology that lung cancer treat as any other illness and stop it not to spread and save patient life.

Recent example is one of Serbian famous actors that was almost dead and with gangrena and with stroke, recently came from Cuba and now filming new series in age of 80 and everyone thought he was practically dead before he went there. These are just small examples of how advanced Cubans are in medical research and health care.

Also, Serbia is also not good example to compare because they are still using hospitals and system made during socialism. Two weeks ago I've came from Military Medical Academy (it is opened for civilians also)because my mom broke her leg. There was immediate operation, and care and it costed nothing. Job was done perfectly and professional without any additional costs. But VMA (medical military academy) is also left from socialism in a same way complete system works. You also know that this was state of the art hospital, mostly underground ready for chemical and biological warfare and that Serbs made many such hospitals in different countries worldwide (as a business). On the other side, maybe there is low mortality rate with newborns but that is not covering complete situation where people are waiting for months or even year to get their turn on other free services. (we both know that free health system here is destroyed so people can make private business and earn big money).

So, maybe would be best to compare with countries that were not (are),socialistic....I don't know, for example. Germany,Norway,Italy....that would be interesting to see.

who knew Serbia was such a paradise. apparently Cuba has cured lung cancer and many other terminal diseases.

post links to this lung cancer vaccine and these other Cuban miraculous medical treatments nobody else in the world knows about other than Serbians.

no,it was free.I am also having complete health care free as unemployed (need to write one document every year that I don't have a work).I am just saying that they asked 50 eur more for better service ,privately. That sucks and that is very dangerous thing (what will happen when you need hearth surgery). Personally, idea of paying for medicine and health care is sign of low level of humanity and civilization. Maybe because I am coming from place where it was free for all but even that I am not from there, we are all humans and need to be treated like that. Idea that you can live if you have to pay is terrible and as I am concerned, equal to some apocalyptic movie scenario.

Nothing will help your ignorance, but I will anyway ,paste you few links:

http://english.blic.rs/Society//8695...Serbia-in-2013

http://www.expatserbia.com/news-a-ev...ncer-in-serbia

I wasn't pasting non-English resources because I guess that someone with that attitude will probably deny it as propaganda, lie, or ...like you said with irony" paradise". Also, you should know that same vaccine later went to testing in UK. Hopefully, UK is good enough for you to accept it.

You are 100% correct. Price gouging is the root of the problem in the USA. I went to the ER with an anxiety attack about 15 years ago. I was seen for less than 10 minutes, given Xanax and charged $900.

Did that give you another anxiety attack?:Oh crap