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or you need proof for that too? birds of a feather indeed. wow. |
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and about that vaccine. Hopefully no one of us will need it but Cuban embassy in Serbia is giving precise information how to get it (until it is produced in Serbia). It is free for Cubans, and there is a way for foreigners to get it. Bookmark this page, it can save someone's life: http://www.cubadiplomatica.cu/serbia...9/Default.aspx |
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Believes in zombie Jesus = YES Believes in Unversal Health Care = NO Idiots.:321GFY |
Can anybody let me know if any of the States have a Universal Health Care plan?
Shouldnt Health Care be the responsibility of the State's and not the Fed? In Canada you dont pay anything to the Canadian Government it is all to the Provincial Government (State) ....it is just a federal law that says the Provinces must provide it. Quick Fact- Kiefer Sutherland's Grandfather is the guy who made it law in Canada...:2 cents: |
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big western companies are slowly infiltrating every aspect of our healthcare and soon we wont be able to afford it anyway... good luck trying to convince most americans about any other country making the cure for cancer but the USA...the brain wash is strong in the USA and north korea...you will never never never never convince them that our health care is just as good even if its free...95% of them think we have witch doctors and sacrificial chicken in our hospitals :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you should get a load of their education system :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh man I was in our 1st year middle school equivalent in a US school tests are like: 2+5= a) potato b) 7 c) 23987623926592346524398562439824365982465423975634 29875436 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh ok im exaggerating with the above but you get it LOL everything is such a rip off there and we are being steered towards it with no choice :disgust shit I hope our conversion to "borg" takes as long as possible.... |
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peeps in america wait for months for medical depending in their level of insurance? lolz fyi, mutt is canadian. i'm american, i've already sent that cuban cancer link off to a family member with copd. try and stay focused, you hate america, we get that, we really do, but you need to not get so wound up about it, you end up just writing a bunch of gibberish as you usually do. but i guess that is due to the private american school you attended, instead of that distinguished bosnian uni we all hear about. |
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No, each state will voluntarily set up pools of people to buy private insurance policies under the Affordable Healthcare Act (AKA:obamacare) https://www.google.com/search?q=Affo...Healthcare+Act or the Federal government will fill the function for non-participating states. |
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Me and my wife get tested in a local clinic every year (fluorography, various blood tests (CBC, biochemistry, hormones, viruses, cancer markers), cardiograms etc). She also gets tested as a women (mammography, gynecology etc). Everything is for free here. Furthermore, just yesterday she has cured two teeth. And yes, she paid nothing for it. Need more examples? Anyone here in Russia pays nothing for calling/using an ambulance. So I believe you are living in some shithole or you just have no idea about the healthcare you can have for free :2 cents: Do the US citizens have something similar? No, they haven't. Happy living in the "first wold" :2 cents: |
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You do not want to live in the destination where the best doctors in the world can come and make a fortune?
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ok ok, we get it, russia is superfabtastic, has best health care. and we all want to live there and get surgery there and have our teeth cured there.
got it, now shut the fuck up. |
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I've read enough of stories about the US women died of a breast cancer just because they had no money for mammalogy yearly tests. That is a shame :2 cents: |
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just because you are not paying for it directly doesn't it make it "free"... |
yes, let;s all move to russia for healthcare, here are the features and benefits:::
since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the health of the Russian population has declined considerably as a result of social, economic, and lifestyle changes.[4] The average Russian life expectancy of 68.67 years at birth is nearly 10 years shorter than the overall average figure for the European Union, or the United States. a high mortality rate among working-age males from preventable causes (e.g., alcohol poisoning, stress, smoking, traffic accidents, violent crimes). Mortality among Russian men rose by 60% since 1991, four to five times higher than European average.[9] The infant mortality rate in 2008 was 8.5 deaths per 1,000, that almost 2x usa i could keep going..................... |
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P.S. Yes, every "free" thing has its price. The question is: how how much is that price in YOUR country? |
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Having been treated on both sides of the US/Canadian border, I don't think the US has a healthcare problem at all. What they do have is an insurance industry problem coupled with big Pharma and Tort Law that could use some reform. But the actual care is exceptional if you're properly insured.
One of the guys I work with in Ohio comes to Canada every few months for his diabetes care, and then goes back home and makes payments to the hospital/doctors here. According to him, it's cheaper to do that, including travel and accommodations, because it's far too expensive for him to get insurance (maybe due to pre-existing reasons?). I have no idea what the figures are, I just found that interesting. And as someone else said, nothing is free. Certainly the medical industry here in Canada is not free, we pay for it through taxation. |
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wow, what a fantastic free system, you russians should be proud. |
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more on fab russia healthcare::::::
Medical care in Russia is among the worst in the industrialized world. A 2000 World Health Organization report ranked Russia's health system 130th out of 191 countries, on a par with such nations as Peru and Honduras. This is one of the few nations in the world where life expectancy has declined sharply in the past 15 years. The average Russian can expect to live only to age 66 - at least a decade less than in most Western democracies, according to a 2005 World Bank report. For men, the figure is closer to 59 - meaning many Russian men do not live long enough to start collecting their pension at age 60. Compounded by alcoholism, heart disease claims proportionately more lives than in most of the rest of the world. Death rates from homicide, suicide, auto accidents and cancer are also especially high. wtg russia health care !! |
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low quality and bribes- the hallmarks of russia healthcare
According to a summer 2006 study commissioned by the group, 13 percent of 1,502 respondents who had sought medical help during the previous year had to pay an average of $90 under the table, out of wages averaging $480 a month. The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points. Panfilova also said medical and pharmaceutical companies routinely bribed health officials so that hospitals bought their equipment and medicines, even though their quality is often not the best. |
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here's putin's view on russia health care system:::::
"Life expectancy in our country is 8-10 years lower than in neighboring European countries, the death rate from cardiovascular diseases is 4-5 times higher," Putin said. The premier said a quarter of Russian hospitals were in very poor conditions, adding that 30% had no running hot water, let alone medical equipment, whose term of service is often expired. All this added to meager wages and excessive management staff contributes to the poor quality of health care in Russia, he said. |
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Two decades after the Soviet collapse, Russia's constitution still guarantees free medical care for everyone. But many Russians say their country is actually segregated between a lucky few who can afford good medical care in private clinics and the vast majority who are left with almost no safety net -- or are forced to make side payments to doctors to get care. In many regions, crumbling hospitals rely on Soviet-era equipment. Even in Moscow, many hospitals don’t even have air conditioners to stave off the summer heat. Natalia (who did not want to give her last name) is a nurse at a top state ophthalmology institute. She maintains that in most cases there are two levels of care: free and paid-for. "The free procedures are ones patients don’t need," she says. "Anything that concerns life-threatening conditions costs a fee." |
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Here s my story of "bribes". Just two moths ago I wanted to remove 3 moles on my chest and came to a commercial (paid) clinic. Showed them to a doctor (paid nothing for a visit) and asked how much it will cost to remove them. He said: 2000 rubles (about $60) if I pay him directly, otherwise I have to pay the clinic price which is about two times bigger. And yes, I gave him a $60 "bribe" for removing of my moles. So I'm a fucking criminal and a bad guy now, I know it :( This is how paid medicine works here in Russia. OMFG!!! |
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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Im sure if I google stuff like "US healtcare criticism" I wont find any of the 314,000,000 results an american found something wrong with another countries free health care and has proven beyond all doubt that overpriced US rip off health care is better (if you have insurance of course) dude you are so desperate to not admit that your asshole is not a 2 way street but the health care dick is deeeeeeep inside your anus already... |
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congrats though, you are no longer at the bottom of the list with 3rd world countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ion_.282011.29 keep drinking your own kool aid splashed with vodka. |
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you missed my post where i mentioned i have a pre-existing condition and am very aware of the clusterfuck of american health care. |
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