the problem now is the president/gov said after boston bombings the real and imminent threat now is domestic terror.

and according to Obama it's not from islam

No problem. We'll just let al qaeda do whatever it wants. Any time it wants to do a few billion dollars to one of the world's largest and most important cities in the world and kill a few thousand Americans for no fucking reason, we'll just walk away. No harm, no foul.

I don't the stupidity of this. After Japan attacked Pearl Harbor Admiral Yamamoto said "We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve". Did anyone really think the United States was going to allow an attack like 9/11 to take place without massive repercussions?

yeah al queerda is way out of hand to the point we have to spend billions and billions of dollars and collect comm data of each other:::::::::

terrorist attacks on u.s. since 2010–present[edit]


Boston Marathon bombings on April 15, 2013

2010 March 4: 2010 Pentagon shooting occurred on March 4, 2010, when John Patrick Bedell shot and wounded two Pentagon police officers at a security checkpoint in the Pentagon station of the Washington Metro mass-transit system in Arlington County, Virginia.

2010 September 1: Discovery Communications headquarters hostage crisis: James J. Lee, armed with two starter pistols and an explosive device, takes three people hostage in the lobby of the Discovery Communications headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland before being killed by police. After nearly four hours, Lee was shot dead by police and all the hostages were freed without injury. Lee had earlier posted a manifesto railing against population growth and immigration.[62][63]

2012 August 5 Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting: 6 killed, 3 injured including a police officer who was tending to victims at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Wade Michael Page age 40 killed himself after being shot by police.[64] The shooting is being treated by authorities as an act of domestic terrorism.[65][66] While a motive has not been clearly defined Page had been active in white supremacist groups.[64]
2013 April 15: Boston Marathon bombings: T



yay, meanwhile our infrastructure is a d- and failing, our schools are a clusterfuck and we dig deep into our pockets to bail out banks.

yeah, your way makes sense rochard, good thinking

So you are saying no need to make any attempt to protect ourselves, to prevent the next attack? Shouldn't we at least... Try? No matter how many billions it costs?

I'll agree with you that our infrastructure is failing. Every time it snows on the east coast and people go without power, I have to chuckle. I lived on the east coast, on top of a huge mountain; We were always the last to be visited by the plow and nothing moved until then. We were always prepared at all times to spend two - six days without power and unable to leave the house. Setting aside the fact the it's sheer stupidity to live in a place that where you are trapped in your own house for days at a time, did it ever fucking occur to anyone to put all of the power lines underground? I live in a brand new community, and everything is underground. We don't have power outages. (Then again, we also don't have snow.)

Schools... People love to bitch about schools. What did we have then that kids don't have now? And have you been to a school recently? When I was a kid in school we had desks, pencils, papers, books, and chalkboards. On a good day we had an overhead projector that one fifth of the time needed a new light bulb. Thirty kids for each class too. Now classrooms have TVs and computers in every room. No need for an overhead projector - The teach has a camera mounted directly above her desk where she can scribble on a huge pad on her desk and and picked up by the projector. Not good enough? Fine, the teach can hook up a laptop to the same projector - wireless. STILL not good enough? If my kid so much misses an assignment I get an email the same day, and I can look up all of the grades online too. And when the kids run into problems with homework, they can get the answers online via the school's tutorial program. I compare my kid's school to my school, and they are a lot better off now. The problem isn't schools, it's parents who fail to pay attention.

not at all, i am saying our priorities are backwards. i get that people want to kill us. hell, i am otr here saying it's what humans do best- kill each other.

nevertheless. i do think we bring an amount of it onto ourselves- we went there, they didn't come here. even though that's only part of it.

but obviously, the ratio of defense spending to everything else is way backwards.

4 terror attacks in 4 years, we spend billions to safeguard against that. that's insanely stupid budgeting.

i am the only person in my family who is not in academia, i hear on a daily basis what's happening in k-12 and higher ed when i talk to fam.

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yes yes you are all in DANGER!

the other 95% of the world does not have a borg/klingon army that punishes other countries as soon as US paranoia flares up but don't let that stand in the way of your fear and hate of non americans

you fucking north korean! seriously LOL... you brainwashed, paranoid, micro penis, double standard, "supreme leader" mercenary...

ah you gotta love US double standard...other countries must not arm up, but the US does to "prevent attacks" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"land of the brave and land of the free" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

shit I hope the world arms the fuck up and you end up isolated like north korea with your klingon culture....

shut the fuck up.

It's called "national defense" for a reason, and it has a purpose.

The USA participates in national OFFENSE.

Plus, perhaps the USA shouldn't have funded al qaeda to begin with. Every "terrorst" attack upon the USA has had involvement from some US or US funded group.

The USA was warned by many other nations that an attack upon pearl harbor was imminent. The USA stood down and let it happen to use it as a pretext for more military action.

The USA has tons of blood on its hands. "Land of the free refills, home of the cowed."

This thread is about the NSA.

Did the NSA prevent that attack? No.

Spying doesn't work. Case closed.

a link was posted yesterday that mosques/muslim groups are exempt from this tracking

so now it is just used against non-muslim americans

People from other countries don't want to kill "Americans".

People from other countries want the USA to take their CIA and DEA (and now NSA) off of their land.

They want the interference to stop. The war mongering and drum-beating to cease.

People in other countries are not jealous of your so-called freedom. In fact, we look to the USA as an example of a blossoming police state. (Same could be said about the UK.)

Killing each other is NOT human nature. It is a symptom of a war-mongering culture and the lack of respect for non-"americans".

Yeah, I saw that. I can say I'm not surprised at all.

The NSA is only spying on people it believes are terrorists, meaning they are part of a terrorist organization and receive support from them. In the case of the Boston Bombers, they didn't seem to have support from anyone.

i am. why? i can't tell you. but yes, i am :1orglaugh

dafuq?

Wrong.

It's a blanket spy program that collects data without a warrant or even probable cause.

The fact that the storage facility is being built in Utah proves that they are storing both metadata AND content.

No one needs 9 zetabytes of storage for metadata. Metadata is extremely small and it compresses well.

Obviously, the average citizen is the target.

Corporate espionage, intel on tax cheats, insider trading stuff, etc. is far more interesting to the government.

Anyone that has more than two braincells to rub together knows that terrorism is mostly bullshit. You have a higher chance of dying from a falling coconut than dying in a terrorist attack.

well with current events.. the question is 'who is the government' now

Yeah. There are many theories.

I just call them "the psychopaths in power". :)

sure enough, proof that Obama is not working in our in interest

obama just seems to be bush 2.0

pretty sure you are correct because no person EVER killed another person before America was created :thumbsup

think Obama is much more morally dishonest

Oh, I thought we were talking about the present. Now you want to go all "history channel" on my ass? :1orglaugh

The lack of spying on mosques got me thinking... Perhaps it is a ruse.

Why would they selectively exclude them from PRISM? Maybe they are saying they excluded them after the Boston bombing so that people don't point out that PRISM didn't work. :2 cents:

Edit: I mean, we just can't ever really know. They keep this shit secret and lie when caught.

i'm fully aware of what the thread is about, are you not aware of the recent expose on prism? did the domestic snooping part zoom right past ya there? sounds like it.

either way, you might want to direct this comment to your congressman instead of me, i'm the messenger.
you are naive. plain and simple. people have been shitting excuses to kill each other for centuries. you can't list one single thing we've done better over the centuries. war mangering? umm, wtf you thnk that's for? love? please. :1orglaugh

and if you haven't figured out yet that people like killing simply for the sake of killing, then i cannot explain it to you here.

I think our vice president said it best



I love these, Obama VS Biden

You want to end terrorism in the us? stop bombing their countries

http://www.thenational.ae/news/world...a-day-in-yemen

Zoom right past me? Are you trolling? You have got to be one of the most ignorant people on GFY.

My congressman? I'm not in the USA and thank god for that. I won't even change flights in the USA anymore due to excessive harassment in that "free" country.

I am naive? Sure pal. Again, we are talking about the present here. I don't recall the US having the NSA for "centuries".

One single thing? I have one. The fact that the US told England to fuck off and formed a republic without a monarch was the best thing it ever did; a well written constitution was written. Unfortunately, it has been undone.

Killing isn't a human genetic trait. It isn't ingrained in people at birth.

It's a learned behavior.

The US's culture of death and war-mongering is to blame here.

I mean, just look at first 4 letters in the word "culture" and you'll gain some insight into what I am saying.

No problem. Let's give our enemies a place to train again!

Bang on. :thumbsup

Even if they are only storing metadata... metadata in aggregate IS content!

:thumbsup

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US CULTure at its finest. Love that statement.

I also just noticed your sig about marines. That says a lot too. :1orglaugh

the only reason they are attacking us is because of what we do to them.

We are the world police, if we stopped funding the military's of all those countries and left them to themselves, we wouldn't need protection from guys wearing explosives in their underwear

your avi looks like a guy with a radio mic... like a cab dispatcher :thumbsup

I was having breakfast at the house of blues with my girlfriend, that's a shot of jack to go with my breakfast