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You can't bring your ego with you to the office.
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Ok you all convinced me its probably best to not take a harsh stance against the affiliate. I'll let him ride. The main reason being that it is better than a tube/torrent site. Eff that shit.
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If it's a torrent site, you could take it legally and have the affiliate forfeit their earnings for other reasons. :winkwink: |
If your terms don't state you don't accept this type or promotion then it's your problem.
If you do amend your terms then you should continue to work with those affiliates who signed up before you did this. Personally as an affiliate I am sick of sponsors changing their terms to suit with regards to this, if they screw me over I simply change the promo content and point to a similar sponsor that way they loose both traffic and sales yet still have the same problem. Search traffic does not belong to you, it's anyones for the taking. Try improving your own seo. |
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Be happy that he sent you all the traffic. What would happen if he would sent the whole traffic to your competition?
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you are also over looking the fact that the keyword you are looking at isn't the only keyword he ranks for... it's quite likely he ranks for dozens of different keywords for which your site isn't even on page 1... :2 cents:
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They filed with ICANN, lawyers and all that, to take hold of the name. So I forfeited it after a bit of back and forth. Mind you, the whole time I dealt with their lawyers, at no point did anyone from cash.phemjoy.com (again, trying not to call them out so that's a fictional domain) contact me directly to talk it out though I tried to contact them multiple times. It was converting well, everything we put was hand written, we put a lot of work into making it a great affiliate site. Now, when you search for "goymii" 8 of the top 10 results are tubes with a pile of free content. Congrats to "goymii" on that. I'm sure surfers are much happier paying nothing. |
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It's also a very bad sign for an alert affiliate. Usually if a sponsor goes after affiliates in these conditions it means they are micro-managers and/or that they see many affiliates as a liability. |
I hate when affiliates brandcamp as well. If you register every TLD in existence though, they can just register yourdomainvids.com or something like that. Just be glad they're pointing that traffic at you, and do your best to make sure you rank above them.
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My view on that is following:it is ok as longest it not just a redirect to linkcode,or with poor content.If it is site like blog,review site,anything what provide info about paysite which is not present on paysite tour.After all surfers do type paysite name in google to search for more info about it before sign up.
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i used to have a bunch of domains doing this. in some cases i out ranked the paysite in question.... everytime i got to the point i was making more then a few hundred a month, my account was closed, i guess the finally notice one day and get angry like you. after losing great income streams i have stopped doing it, sucks to lose rebills and reliable income due to greed, if it were algo changes i could swallow it better.
digital desire and sean cody are two i can think of that do not allow this and i am sure both made thousands from cancelling my accounts, dicks. i honestly dont see the problem with it, its still traffic going to the paysite, i put in the work of building the site and ranking it, everyone profits. imagine if you get rid of me and mainstream(or negative) article takes my place... thats less traffic for you. |
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zishy . net does not seem to be hurting you
tumblr and facebook are yours? http://linkpicture.com/upload/small/...03d98cf96d.jpg |
this is an important thread. Seriously look at google results for most adult terms provide stolen tube videos. Why would an affiliate program prefer stolen videos to rank over an affiliate who sends you quality traffic. Ego gets in the way of logic but fight the urge.
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Yes, which is why I have allowed it. Hasn't snagged too many sales.
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You could always UDRP the domain if you have your name trademarked (and in some cases even with just a common-law trademark, you could still win though it's a lot less likely). But that's a min $500 to file, and if they come bitching here, it'll hurt your ability to get more affiliates.
If they're not taking #1 rankings from you, it shouldn't be a huge deal anyways. |
you didnt buy the .net, someone else did and are promoting your site. there should be absolutely no complaints about this at all imho
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it would be a problem if said affiliate is promoting your competition .. if he is promoting you then I see no harm? remember , that even though right now you rank good one yourkeyword.com this does not mean this will be like this forever especially if people are linking to yourkeyword.com/affiliatecode from all sorts of different networks good SEO done by a webmaster with experience might outrank you and last longer in said rankings |
Now I know to stay away as much as I can from "ZISHY"... Really hate when a sponsor is so greed to hit that extreme limit to go against their own affiliates, I really hate that so much.
Right now I have this domain problem with another sponsors I won't name yet. I was able to rank above them for their own paysite name, I use a .net with the same domain name as their .com. I only promote that sponsor in this site, yet they are trying to force me to sell them my domain name. Of course I won't, but they said that they could close my account. If these idiots close my account I will make sure to report them in a thread in this forum. And I know very well they will read this message. I hate that kind of practice from greed sponsors. They should thank me that Im sending them sales. WTF, how can they go against their own affiliates? Truly Insane... |
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What's the trick? How can you rank for every single term in top? For example www.paysitename.com and you have www.paysitename.us and list in top always. |
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1. Closely resembling a trademark 2. With bad faith against the trademark holder (which trying to profit from their trademark fits) 3. Without legitimate use of your own aside from their trademark You can get the domain taken from you, end of story. You can bitch about it all day long, but that is UDRP, which is law of the land for most major exts. Don't like it, register some ccTLD that UDRP doesn't apply to - and even then make sure whichever dispute resolution policy that extension uses doesn't have the same guidelines. I'm not saying a trademark holder should make a big deal out of it if they're ultimately getting the traffic/customers anyways albeit with some lost profit, but they can if they want to, and legally you would be in the wrong. But hey, be glad they're not Facebook and the like, who have sued for the $100,000 damages allowed by law per trademark infringement. Then your cereal would really be shat in. |
I think it's wise to not disallow this in your TOS. PROVIDED they are sending traffic only to you naturally. You might consider putting that in your TOS (didn't read, maybe there already).
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You still have to do a lot of work even if you own .net or .org.. One sponsor (mutt) let me register the .net and .org of their paysite and I'm ranking like crap!
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no need to ban or do anything against those people...
they are doing you a favor making sites and sending traffic your way... If I were you I wouldn't even bother buying other TLDs other than .com and let the promoters use them... it's better to be developed than bought by you and undeveloped/redirected... just waste of money and resources... BTW: I own couple domains with slashes... for eg. some porn star have official site at pornstar.com and I have porn-star.com and I bring in nice sales with those sites/blogs... never had issues with that... |
If it really bothers you that much spend a couple hundred bucks to register every popular domain extension and variation ("videos", "photos", "blog", "fan club", "xxx" etc) you can think of.
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ban the affiliate if its in your tos . case 2 : add it in tos and then ban the affioiate. in either case you gonna loose traffic and sales. you dont mess with the affiliate. |
that's not fair to steal traffic that way
if i'd be the owner, i wouldn't let to use exact name of my paysite |
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I came across this while digging into the OP. I'm trying to play nice with OP. I work with a site that is sending OP 2k+ sales a month and he doesn't seem to like the way I smell. :( So, if you get this in your email OP...I took a shower just for you. :) I just want to make you more $. MORE $$$. Who doesn't want more $$$$$? Yes, there was an issue. It has been rectified. Apologized for. Groveled over. Kissed your ass too. Everything but washing your feet, and if you name the place and time...I'll do that too! So, if you get this in your email OP, would you please kindly respond to my email(s), so that we can all make more $$$$$$$. The end. |
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